Difficulty and safety issues [Archive]

glockgirl

03-12-2006, 11:19 PM

OK, I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this or not, so forgive me ahead of time or feel free to direct me to the correct forum.

My dad and I had a safety argument tonight. He thinks it's ok to keep pulling the trigger on a misfire because as he states "after the 2nd or 3rd pull, the round WILL fire, if the round misfires and you eject the round with the bullet still in the casing, it could go off at any time"

MIND YOU! I don't have a bullet puller, which I know to be the safest way to take care of this problem. But I also told him there was no way (NO WAY) that I was just going to keep pulling the trigger etc etc.

So of course he reverted to lecturing for 20 minutes like I was 8 again. :rant: :thdown:

Let me know what your guys opinion on what I should have done.

Should I keep pulling the trigger in the hope that it will eventually go off (I have a double action). Should I eject the clip, remove the round and give it to a range officer? Throw it away?

All I see is this vision of something going wrong and losing my face and/or my gun in some sort of freak explosion (like they say, if it wasn't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all).

goldwing2000

03-12-2006, 11:39 PM

Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with smacking that primer a couple more times.
The worst that could happen is that it fires and you carry along your merry way.
Inside the chamber of a gun, pointed down range is the safest place for a loaded round to be!

At the very least, in the event of a misfire:
1. Keep the gun pointed in a safe direction
2. Wait 10 seconds for the chance of a hang fire
3. If it still doesn't ignite, remove the round. If there is a range officer present, ask him/her what they would prefer you to do with the round. If no officer is present, put the round to the side (away from yourself and other people) and deal with it later. If you're at an outdoor range, find a puddle to drop it in or try to bury it. If you must take it with you, soak it in water for a few days and dispose of it in your trash pickup.
4. DO NOT try to pull the bullet!! Especially with a kinetic bullet puller!

Fiddler

03-12-2006, 11:43 PM

First off, this is a very good spot to ask your question. The NRA rule on misfires or hangfires is that if it does not ignite right away, keep the gun pointed down range and at the target for 30 seconds in case it is a hangfire and not a true misfire. After 30 seconds, drop the magazine (it's a magazine, not a clip) and eject the cartridge. At that time, the proper disposal of the cartridge is either in a misfire can or soaking it in a light weight oil. Many times, this means giving it to the rangemaster. At our gun club we have an old fire extinguisher we use for a misfire can. Being that it is a particularly heavy guage steel, should the cartridge ignite, as in a hangfire, the brass would be well contained. I believe that the Firing Line has an oil solution they put the misfire cartridges in, so we turn in any misfired cartridges to whomever is on duty.

Now, let me be very clear. That is the NRA rule. When you start getting into tactical shooting (shooting to survive in a gunfight), you go into a standard stoppage clearance drill (tap, rack, bang). If you are in a gunfight, 30 seconds could cost you your life, so this drill very standard in training and very important.

As for continually pulling the trigger, that is very old school, and an extremely bad habit to get into in tactical shooting. Personally, I don't mess around with a cartridge that wont ignite. I get rid of it because I'm not going to bet my life on it.

RSF

03-13-2006, 01:02 AM

Let me i will tell you one time and one time only.

KEEP PULLING THE TRIGGER AND I WILL BE THE FIRST AT YOUR COFFIN WITH FLOWERS.

WATCHING YOUR FAMILY CRY OVER YOUR BODY

glockgirl

03-13-2006, 07:38 PM

Let me i will tell you one time and one time only.

KEEP PULLING THE TRIGGER AND I WILL BE THE FIRST AT YOUR COFFIN WITH FLOWERS.

WATCHING YOUR FAMILY CRY OVER YOUR BODY

I tired to get my dad to understand that if I lost my gun, my face, my eye, my life that he would be very sorry. :evil: :angel:

gsbell

03-13-2006, 08:30 PM

I tired to get my dad to understand that if I lost my gun, my face, my eye, my life that he would be very sorry. :evil: :angel:
I won't speak for Dep. but I don't think that's what he meant. If you stand there going click, click, click, click someone is going to kill you. Move! Tap, Rack, Bang is the name of the game. Get that gun back in action ASAP!

Fiddler

03-13-2006, 08:39 PM

I'd have to go along with that!

goldwing2000

03-13-2006, 09:51 PM

Again, it all depends on if you're target shooting or "action" shooting.

If you're out leisurely sending rounds downrange just to make some holes in paper, then there's no reason not to drop the hammer one or two more times to try to avoid the hassle of a dud round. It's not going to make your gun explode!
And besides... chances are deputy won't be there to harass you about it.

However, if you're taking some sort of training class, eject that sucker out of the gun (preferable as far from your body as possible) and get back into battery as quickly as possible!

RSF

03-13-2006, 11:10 PM

glockgirl

03-14-2006, 06:49 PM

kane is pretty close on that in some eyes its ok to go ahead drop the hammer.

not on my life would i ever drop the hammer again..... its all about one thing staying alive every time you pick up a gun it should become its a training lesson....... do not get into bad habits that one day may cost you your ass....

some say i have no fun anymore i dont plink i dont just go blast.. every time i touch a gun no matter what iamm doing its another repetion in my training...

Well Deputy, like you said, I'm sure you'll show me the proper way this month at the advanced class. I STILL stand firm that I am not going to keep pulling the trigger. Sorry guys! I can't untrain my mind to do something that I feel is dangerous.

So with proper training this month, hopefully I will see some improvements in my safety knowledge. Even though I shoot quite a bit, I have never had formal training until I took my CCW class (well ok, and Hunter Safety). I follow the first three rules of shooting at all times (it's worked for 15 years so far-ooops think I just gave away my age!) , but as for those times when the road veers left, I will have to depend on formal training or the help of good people like everyone here to make the road straight again.

Fiddler, I would love to know about the training that you have had. I am always looking to improve and expand my knowledge.

Thanks for all your help and opinions :) The one thing that I am deathly terrified of is hurting someone because I was unsafe with a gun. :-?

RSF

03-14-2006, 07:30 PM

Not me! iam not running and advanced class till may the firing line is not me though

Fiddler

03-14-2006, 09:19 PM

Well Deputy, like you said, I'm sure you'll show me the proper way this month at the advanced class. I STILL stand firm that I am not going to keep pulling the trigger. Sorry guys! I can't untrain my mind to do something that I feel is dangerous.

So with proper training this month, hopefully I will see some improvements in my safety knowledge. Even though I shoot quite a bit, I have never had formal training until I took my CCW class (well ok, and Hunter Safety). I follow the first three rules of shooting at all times (it's worked for 15 years so far-ooops think I just gave away my age!) , but as for those times when the road veers left, I will have to depend on formal training or the help of good people like everyone here to make the road straight again.

Fiddler, I would love to know about the training that you have had. I am always looking to improve and expand my knowledge.

Thanks for all your help and opinions :) The one thing that I am deathly terrified of is hurting someone because I was unsafe with a gun. :-?

Well, I started out shooting in the backyard with my brothers when I was 10, but I’m a little older than you. In fact, I have cars that are older than you. 8) I have had extensive tactical training in pistol, carbine and shotgun with Deputy for 3 years now. I graduated from Tactical Defense Institute (tactical handgun 3 and 4) and Gunfighters Ltd (Louis Chiodo). I am a certified NRA range officer and instructor in the pistol disciplines, home firearm safety, Refuse to be a Victim, and a veteran teacher. I am also a hunter safety instructor and teach child safety classes with M2A. I usually train twice per week and average 1500 - 2000 rounds per month on concentrated tactical drills and practice (not plinking). I take my training very seriously, and I train continuously. My next endeavor will be Gunsite Academy. If you're interested in training, send me a PM or an email, and we'll set something up. :pistols:

pistolinstructor@charter.net

goldwing2000

03-14-2006, 09:49 PM

Well Deputy, like you said, I'm sure you'll show me the proper way this month at the advanced class. I STILL stand firm that I am not going to keep pulling the trigger. Sorry guys! I can't untrain my mind to do something that I feel is dangerous.

Nobody says you have to keep pulling the trigger. In fact, on most firearms, this isn't even an option.

As long as you realize that doing so isn't going to make the gun blow up (why would it??), we can move on!

M1911A1

03-14-2006, 10:02 PM

Nobody says you have to keep pulling the trigger. In fact, on most firearms, this isn't even an option.

As long as you realize that doing so isn't going to make the gun blow up (why would it??), we can move on!

Kane is right, there.
There is no safety issue on dropping the hammer again on the round.
What was explained by the hardcore tactical shooters is that it is Tactically unsound. A bad tactical habit and when the SHTF, habit is what gets you through. Clearance drill, clearance drill, clearance drill!
Practice practice practice, or as Deputy's signature says:
The business of gun fighting is far too serious to be anything but ruthlessly critical of yourself and others

RSF

03-14-2006, 10:51 PM

glockgirl

03-15-2006, 07:39 PM

OK! OK! I promise to stop believing it will blow up my gun. Better? :banghead:

I'll have to admit my dad was right on that one then!! :scratch: I'll find something else to aggravate you guys with later, I'm sure.
:lolup:

Thanks for the advice and the opinions though!

RSF

03-15-2006, 08:38 PM

Ok the thing is and your missing the issue.it isnt about the F%^king gun blowing up its about the right response to the problem and your solving it.

the advice and opinions come from pretty dammed experinced shooter's and trainers... learn..

glockgirl

03-15-2006, 09:44 PM

I wasn't trying to offend anyone here. If I have done so, I apologize. I am in the process of learning...which is why I am trying to take more formal training, if you thought I wasn't paying attention, think again.

Please forgive my error. Again, I apologize.

Tank

03-15-2006, 09:58 PM

glockgirl

03-15-2006, 09:59 PM

Yes, so have I...

RSF

03-15-2006, 10:00 PM

ok go sit in the corner and type tap rack bang 500 times and say 300 hail mary's and dont let it happen again.......good to train and train and train more

your life the life or your child and or your family may depend on what you know or think you know or dont really know.......... its all good just look around iam very critical no offense taken

Tank

03-15-2006, 10:02 PM

........If you're interested in training, send me a PM or an email, and we'll set something up. :pistols:

I'd be interested in something more than the CPL required training, but less than full on warfare :straf: :fa::) Although that would be fun too! I've got my reloading stuff, moving into the new house this weekend, so I'm going to be ready here soon to start reloading and getting myself back into "shape" with regards to my shooting, awareness, and capability. I also turned in my CPL app in Eaton County last Friday. They said 6-8 wks and I need to go before the gun board because they like to meet with all the "new" applicants in the county.

glockgirl

03-15-2006, 10:12 PM

They said 6-8 wks and I need to go before the gun board because they like to meet with all the "new" applicants in the county.

Wow. I knew they did that in Saginaw County once upon a time, not sure if they do that now or not. I always thought that was interesting that it varies county to county. I wonder what they are really looking for?

I am dying of anticipation for my license. According to Washtenaw county (is this the same everywhere?) once they receive your prints back they have 45 days to review your app. I called and they are reviewing mine on March 21st. Today it's been 55 days and counting.

I am taking the advanced CCW course next weekend. So then I will know what "tap, rack, bang" means....

Fiddler

03-15-2006, 10:34 PM

BravoKilo

03-16-2006, 12:00 AM

Wow. I knew they did that in Saginaw County once upon a time, not sure if they do that now or not. I always thought that was interesting that it varies county to county. I wonder what they are really looking for?

They do it in Macomb county too. I was actually surprised as to the meeting - - it seemed to be a 'last line of defense' in insuring that the permits were given to lawful citizens. At the meeting I was present at, there were about 5-6 people who were denied for all sorts of felony charges - - assault, drugs, etc. etc. It just amazed me that their paperwork wasn't denied ahead of time :freak:

So then I will know what "tap, rack, bang" means....

Basically if your gun doesn't go bang for whatever reason, the first thing to do is MOVE and get to cover... then give the magazine a nice firm tap, rack the slide, and resume firing (and/or assess the situation).

glockgirl

03-16-2006, 08:58 AM

They do it in Macomb county too. I was actually surprised as to the meeting - - it seemed to be a 'last line of defense' in insuring that the permits were given to lawful citizens. At the meeting I was present at, there were about 5-6 people who were denied for all sorts of felony charges - - assault, drugs, etc. etc. It just amazed me that their paperwork wasn't denied ahead of time :freak:

Basically if your gun doesn't go bang for whatever reason, the first thing to do is MOVE and get to cover... then give the magazine a nice firm tap, rack the slide, and resume firing (and/or assess the situation).

Thanks for the definition. Like Combat Commander said-People get their CPL's and then never continue training (I was amazed at the number of people in my CPL class that didn't have a gun or had never shot a gun-I don't deny them the right to carry, I would just like them to better educate themselves). I think Combat Commander was right that people need more than just the basics. Now that I am getting more formal training, I feel much better. And it amazes me too that the paperwork wasn't rejected when the prints came back. Or maybe that's why there is a gun board. Because there was one guy that was denied his license here in Washtenaw because he had some weird prior counseling or something due to depression, I would have to go back and look at the article again. He fought and won though. When I worked out at Metro, after 9/11 we all had to be fingerprinted. You wouldn't believe all the people that were arrested on the spot because of prior warrants and stuff. Sometimes it's scary!

RSF

03-16-2006, 10:34 AM

Moving is good so what happen's when there is no cover close by why not tap rack when moving to cover instead of waiting to get to cover! the averaged trained person can tap rack and be back in the gunfight in under 1.5 seconds those with more training can do it under .75 of a second and i have seen faster yet at times moving is just not an option what if yah have kids with you, elderly family etc....... person that has a disablity there is no religion here there are theroies and then there is training.. to see what can be done.

what i find even more funny is the fact that some here will skip advice from those with a great training under there belt and fail to respond to them in fact ignore them and skip right to the men wtf is this Match.com or mgouc...

glockgirl

03-16-2006, 07:37 PM

I think some people ignore other's due to attitude issues. *shrugs* Just my opinion.

ANYWAY, I like it here, I like the advice, am looking into more training and am also trying to coerce, con, cajole, tempt and drive my boyfriend to the range. He seems to have issues with guns, doesn't know a whole lot about them, but I am in the same boat as men who have wives that don't like to shoot. So any men have suggestions? He said "Maybe" the other day, so I MIGHT be getting somewhere!!!

Fiddler

03-17-2006, 08:13 PM

I'd be interested in something more than the CPL required training, but less than full on warfare :straf: :fa::) Although that would be fun too! I've got my reloading stuff, moving into the new house this weekend, so I'm going to be ready here soon to start reloading and getting myself back into "shape" with regards to my shooting, awareness, and capability. I also turned in my CPL app in Eaton County last Friday. They said 6-8 wks and I need to go before the gun board because they like to meet with all the "new" applicants in the county.

Tank, were you looking more for an advanced CPL class, private instruction something slightly more tactical? Either way, we can set something up. We have an advanced CPL class coming up as well as a tactical handgun class. Let me know what you're looking for and we'll get it set up!

By the way, how is Heather coming along with her handgun selection? Let me know if she needs any support. I'd be happy to meet up with you both at the club and let her try my sig again, or any other handgun for that matter.

fbuckner

03-21-2006, 07:16 AM

not on my life would i ever drop the hammer again..... its all about one thing staying alive every time you pick up a gun it should become its a training lesson....... do not get into bad habits that one day may cost you your ass....

some say i have no fun anymore i dont plink i dont just go blast.. every time i touch a gun no matter what iamm doing its another repetion in my training...[/QUOTE]

Ah Lighten up Steve not every time you pick up a gun it's a training thing. I know this for a fact. Sometimes when you pick one up you have fun with it. For instance sitting in a cow pasture till 4 am. Shooting at Coons and Coyote or Ehhhem getting some young lovers parking to crude their pants.

glockgirl

03-21-2006, 08:41 AM

You know what though? Steve is right. I went to the range again with my dad this past weekend. We were shooting reloads and out of 250 we had about 5 misfires. By the time we messed around and got them fired, it would have been a huge mess...

I brought up the "tap, rack, bang" and he said that was fine for defense, but for "plinking" he wanted me to do it his way...No big deal, but it does take a lot of time, plus my double action DOES NOT allow me to pull the trigger twice...Maybe it's part of the safety mechanism built in...?? So that means dropping the clip and fussing with the gun, so then "tap, rack, bang" comes in more handy this time....

We worked on some double tap drills, but I have a problem that maybe someone can help me address. I shoot the Glock 26, my hands are fairly small and I am trying to break myself of the habit of using two hands to drop the clip...

But when I go to release the clip (I shoot right handed), my thumb isn't long enough to hit the button and I have to use two hands...I REALLY want to get out of that habit, because I have gotten used to trying to catch my clips with my left hand and that's wasting time considering if I was in a life or death situation, I need that left hand to retrieve a fresh clip...

Any suggestions would be welcome, I really don't want to go to a smaller gun...

RSF

03-21-2006, 09:01 AM

glockgirl.......... get with fiddler tonight at the ladies shoot tonight at the firingline and she will help you out on that issue.

foirts thing is this catching your magazine is a big no no....... if its empty it hit the ground period your life isnt worth the 15 bucks that mag cost..... second to eject magazine the you will need to do this roll the gun inboard and slighty up to reach the magazine release button.... i sugjest getting to the line early tonight before the ladies shoot to get some one on one with karen she will walk yah through it

RSF

03-21-2006, 09:14 AM

Ah Lighten up Steve not every time you pick up a gun it's a training thing. I know this for a fact. Sometimes when you pick one up you have fun with it. For instance sitting in a cow pasture till 4 am. Shooting at Coons and Coyote or Ehhhem getting some young lovers parking to crude their pants.
__________________

ok that was Fun

Fiddler

03-21-2006, 09:28 AM

Glockgirl, since I will be teaching at the Firing Line tonight, I can help you with that. I have had the same issue with double stack guns.

fbuckner

03-21-2006, 10:30 AM

ok that was Fun[/QUOTE]

Of course it was :) I would have like to have seen the faces on who ever it was when? Well never mind we had better not discuss the night shoots we have had.

glockgirl

03-21-2006, 06:44 PM

I was approved for my CPL today, I think I'll run down and pick it up tomorrow (no lack of patience here!) :P
Thanks Deputy, but it looks like I will have to catch the next Womens Night :(
I am really excited and want to go, just trying to juggle weekday time..I can't wait to meet Karen and see what training she can help me with.

M1911A1

03-21-2006, 07:00 PM

You'd enjoy the women's nights. There are a lot of first timers that go to them but there is a lot of fun too!

One thing, it is a Magazine, not a Clip. I figured I'd better tell you before Deputy REALLY gets on you! :lol:
Seriously, a magazine is an entire feeding system including a casing, spring and follower. As one cartridge is removed, the spring and follower push the next cartridge into place , ready for chambering.
A clip merely holds things together.

Deputy is right on about never catching an empty mag. Forget it if its empty. It's useless and your life isn't worth a $25 nagazine. Fiddler (Karen) has one of the smoothest mag changes going. You'll enjoy learning that skill. She sure can help you with what you need to know to release your mag.

glockgirl

03-21-2006, 10:04 PM

One thing, it is a Magazine, not a Clip. I figured I'd better tell you before Deputy REALLY gets on you! :lol:
Seriously, a magazine is an entire feeding system including a casing, spring and follower. As one cartridge is removed, the spring and follower push the next cartridge into place , ready for chambering.
A clip merely holds things together.

i wondered why the hair clip didn't fit the Glock 26-ever try to shoot a target with a gun full of bobby pins??...:lol:

Sorry, sometimes I refuse to behave myself...ANYWAY, I'm glad you straightened that out for me...SEE? Each time I come here, I learn something new...:) You guys (and Ladies) are the best here!! I appreciate all the advice and help...

goldwing2000

03-23-2006, 08:52 PM

I shoot the Glock 26... ...when I go to release the clip (I shoot right handed), my thumb isn't long enough to hit the button and I have to use two hands...Any suggestions would be welcome, I really don't want to go to a smaller gun...

You can try installing the Glock extended mag release. I have it on all of mine and it makes a world of difference when speed is an issue. It comes standard on both of the "practical tactical" models (G34 and G35), so it must be a good thing.

They only cost a few dollars and can be installed in minutes without any special tools. If you're hesitant to spend the money/take the risk, you're welcome to try mine out if we ever happen to be shooting at the same place at the same time (I have a 26, 19, 17 and 34).

glockgirl

03-27-2006, 10:36 AM

You can try installing the Glock extended mag release. I have it on all of mine and it makes a world of difference when speed is an issue. It comes standard on both of the "practical tactical" models (G34 and G35), so it must be a good thing.

They only cost a few dollars and can be installed in minutes without any special tools. If you're hesitant to spend the money/take the risk, you're welcome to try mine out if we ever happen to be shooting at the same place at the same time (I have a 26, 19, 17 and 34).

You know I had it installed last night at the Advanced CCW class...It's pretty bad when You have to waste so many precious seconds trying to catch that little tab...It cost me $3.00 and about 5 minutes of my time, I am eager to try it out more. They didn't install it until right before the very last drill (after 5.5 hours of shooting) so I will have to practice a little more while I am home (unloaded of course :) ).

Thanks for the suggestion, I'm guessing that it will help me out more and hopefully make me a lot quicker (I am so woefully S...L...O...W... :sad: ).

Fiddler

03-27-2006, 10:29 PM

I find the extended mag releases to be helpful on my pistols as well. If you still have trouble, let me know. I'd be happy to show you that technique Deputy was talking about. It really made a difference for me.

Don't worry about being slow. Get your fundamentals down and speed will come with practice.

Trebor

03-28-2006, 04:08 AM

I brought up the "tap, rack, bang" and he said that was fine for defense, but for "plinking" he wanted me to do it his way...No big deal, but it does take a lot of time, plus my double action DOES NOT allow me to pull the trigger twice...
I shoot the Glock 26, ..

Just so you know, the Glock is not a true "double-action" design. In a true double-action design, pulling the trigger will both cock the hammer (or striker) AND release the hammer (or striker).

In the Glock, pulling the trigger ONLY releases the striker to go forward and fire the round. The striker is only recocked by the action of the slide moving back under recoil. (When you chamber the first round by pulling the slide back and releasing it, that also cocks the striker).

This means that if you pull the trigger and have a misfire, you HAVE to manually retract the slide to re-cock the striker. Pulling the trigger again will not re-cock the gun.

You can verify this for yourself in dry fire. Triple check to make sure the gun is unloaded. Pull back and release the slide to cock the striker. Point the pistol in a safe direction and pull the trigger. You'll feel the striker go forward and hear a "click." Do NOT pull the slide back. Instead pull the trigger a second time. The trigger will feel different and there will not be that "click." That shows you that the striker is still fully forward after your first trigger pull. To recock the striker, pull back and release the slide.

My reccomendation is to practice the "Tap - Rack - Bang" drill with your Glock.

Personally, I'd also stop shooting those reloads if you've had that many problems with them in the past. Either that's a sign of poor quality control in the reloading process or they just aren't set up right to work in your gun. Either way I'd ditch them.

glockgirl

03-28-2006, 08:42 AM

Thank you... :) When I pull the trigger a second time, I find it locked and I am unable to pull it a second time, so alot of practicing with the "tap rack bang" drills will be in order. My Dad does the re-loading and I know he's careful, but the powder charge has to be almost maximum (at least the way he loads, which has been for almost 40 years-But they are pretty hot) in order for it to cycle through my gun. I am just trying to figure out what he's doing wrong because I shoot reloads that the Firingline sells and have no problem what-so-ever. But I will take this issue to the proper forum because I know it doesn't belong here.

I just thought my gun was as picky and temperamental as I am. :P

But I DO love the magazine release extension that Eric put in for me. It's the best $3.00 I think I've ever spent!

RSF

03-28-2006, 08:51 AM

Trebor

03-28-2006, 10:09 AM

My reccomendation is to practice the "Tap - Rack - Bang" drill with your Glock

glad yah finally chimmed in on that since every once else has all ready brought that up. since page one..........:gossip:

Yeah, I almost said, "I agree with Deputy - Practice Tap - Rack - Bang" but I didn't want you to get a swelled head.

RSF

03-28-2006, 01:24 PM

Not me....

lol

glockgirl

03-28-2006, 06:40 PM

Now now, I DID ask what "tap rack bang" was on page 3 (post #23) (gotta give me some credit here), got lots of responses both private and public (Thank you everybody!) and then learned how to do it in class this weekend (Thanks Tom & Eric!). Lots of practice is in store...because I want to be FAST FAST FAST! (and then even faster still):thumbup:

PS-I am hooked on formal training, I think I want more!!

M1911A1

03-28-2006, 06:50 PM

Go for smooth. Fast will come. Karcent used to have the signature:
"slow is smooth and smooth is fast"

M1911A1

03-28-2006, 06:52 PM

PS-I am hooked on formal training, I think I want more!!
There's plenty of that around here.

Fiddler

03-28-2006, 07:09 PM

M1911A1 is right. You don't want to try to go too fast too soon. Speed will come with practice.

RSF

03-28-2006, 07:16 PM

Actually trebor Fiddler was first to post the response on this thread so she gets the credit on it not me for tap rack bang

goldwing2000

03-28-2006, 10:09 PM

I just thought my gun was as picky and temperamental as I am. :P
I've never heard of a picky or tempermental Glock. They digest everything you throw in them. Your dad may be using the wrong kind of powder or something.

But I DO love the magazine release extension that Eric put in for me. It's the best $3.00 I think I've ever spent!
Told ya! :biggrin:

Divegeek

03-28-2006, 11:15 PM

You know lately I have been getting a few primers that fail to go on the first strike in my Glock. Been shooting Winchester White Box, I was figuring that somebody switched the normal primers for something that was harder. Maybe her dad got some of those primers.....

glockgirl

03-29-2006, 07:41 PM

Divegeek-I will answer this in another forum, I don't want to get into trouble for posting it here. :P

M1911A1

03-29-2006, 08:45 PM

No trouble posting about primers here.

Divegeek

03-30-2006, 07:14 AM

When a thread wanders a little it's okay to keep it going so long as it doesn't get too far out of hand. It's when you start a new thread that you should really pay attention to which area of the forum you are in.

glockgirl

03-31-2006, 08:09 PM

I posted in the reloading forum, which lead me to a rant in the ammo dump. *laughs*

goldwing2000

03-31-2006, 09:30 PM

See? Look how fast you're getting used to this forum thing! :thumbup:

Tank

03-31-2006, 10:19 PM

Tank, were you looking more for an advanced CPL class, private instruction something slightly more tactical? Either way, we can set something up. We have an advanced CPL class coming up as well as a tactical handgun class. Let me know what you're looking for and we'll get it set up!

By the way, how is Heather coming along with her handgun selection? Let me know if she needs any support. I'd be happy to meet up with you both at the club and let her try my sig again, or any other handgun for that matter.

Umm.... YES 8) When is the advanced CPL class going to be?

As for Heather and the gun search... it's stalled. She had too much on her mind packing up her life and moving to the new house. It'll be a bit before she's ready to start looking again I think, she's got House stuff on her mind now.

Sorry for the VERY late reply, just checked this thread again!