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Knimrod
07-07-2006, 12:42 AM
Keep gun-safety course requirements for our youngest hunters
July 06, 2006
The Bay City Times

There's a notion that interest in the sport of hunting is on a decline in Michigan, especially among our young people.

Hunting license sales are dropping by about 1-2 percent every year, according to the state Department of Natural Resources.

And that's bad for Michigan because the state is losing revenue from those sales, money that typically funnels into wildlife management programs.

A problem, perhaps.

Some of our state lawmakers seem to think the solution is letting preteens carry shotguns without taking a hunter safety course first. Having to go through the training, they say, is a turnoff to potential young hunters.

Eh, let's shoot for a better solution.

House Bill 5192, already on the governor's desk, would lower the hunting age to let children hunt small game at 10 and big game at 12, after taking a gun-safety course.

Under Senate Bill 1105, the same minors could purchase a hunting ''apprentice'' license and go shoot with an adult without taking a gun-safety course first.

At first blush, this might sound like a good idea, but bypassing gun-safety courses, especially for those so young, is a bad idea.

A typical course might take three to five days.

If that's too much to ask, maybe the impatient hunter shouldn't have his itchy finger on a gun trigger.

Hunting has a long tradition in Michigan and it'll stay that way without canning gun-safety courses.

True, fewer young hunters today could mean fewer adult hunters in the future, and that could mean fewer dollars for the state.

But safety comes first.

The fact remains, the state currently experiences a small handful of reported hunting accidents each year, considering the thousands who are out hunting. That's a proud credit to the safety courses already in place.

Forgoing that training would be a mistake.

Maturity varies among preteens, but at least a course might teach them some safe hunting practices, and not, maybe, Uncle Joe's bad habit of not unloading his gun before climbing over a fence.

Put the class requirement in, then let responsible, supervised 10-year-olds hunt.

Link to article (http://www.mlive.com/news/bctimes/index.ssf?/base/news-1/115219897647570.xml&coll=4)

Done Deal
07-07-2006, 10:21 AM
The proposed law change isn't just about young hunter, it includes prospective hunters of any age that have not fulfilled the hunter safety requirements of this state.

I am all for a trial period for this but it should run no longer than one season. That should encourage new hunters to become active in the sport and at the same time, encourage them to complete the hunter safety program as soon as practical.

taurus92
07-07-2006, 10:58 AM
The proposed law change isn't just about young hunter, it includes prospective hunters of any age that have not fulfilled the hunter safety requirements of this state.

I am all for a trial period for this but it should run no longer than one season. That should encourage new hunters to become active in the sport and at the same time, encourage them to complete the hunter safety program as soon as practical.

You are only allowed 2 apprentice licenses.

Done Deal
07-07-2006, 11:17 AM
2 I know....and that might be part of the problem with so many folks seemingly objecting to this proposal. I can't for the life of me figure why they wanted to go with two rather than just one.

Still, people are already complaining about potential safety issues.

taurus92
07-07-2006, 11:34 AM
2 I know....and that might be part of the problem with so many folks seemingly objecting to this proposal. I can't for the life of me figure why they wanted to go with two rather than just one.

Still, people are already complaining about potential safety issues.

Cause if 1 is good 2 must be better ;)

Heck my daughter has gone out in the fields with me pheasant hunting. She was not hunting but learning what all is involved. How the dog works. How you shoot and clean the game. She wanted to hold the birds and even wanted to clean one.

I see this as a good opportunity. We all learn more by doing then by reading and listening. It is one thing to learn the theory of proper shooting lanes and another to be walking in line down the field and having to know when to shoot and when not too.

appliancebrad
07-07-2006, 11:54 AM
I asked my Rep why he did not vote for Immediate Effect for the Bill. He told me it was because the Apprentice Bill would remove the Hunter Safety requirement if the youth took that route. I told him the facts and he then told me had he understood that when he voted, he would have had no problem with supporting immediate effect. he did however vote in favor of the bill.

There is a lot of misunderstanding out there on what this Bill does. Please take the time to read it and talk to your friends and family about it.

Done Deal
07-07-2006, 01:07 PM
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There is a lot of misunderstanding out there on what this Bill does. Please take the time to read it and talk to your friends and family about it.


Ain't that the truth. I have seen some heated discussions on the subject and, misinformation posted as well.

Too bad that all bills do not come with an abbreviated version for those who for whatever reason just don't get the big picture.

Quaamik
07-09-2006, 12:41 PM
Remember, not all hunting trips turn out good.

Some get rained out, sometimes you don't see any game, sometimes the weather gets so cold you are miserable. Someone on an apprentice license, especially an adult trying hunting for the first time, may not be very impressed by thier first trip.

Allowing them to get a second apprentace license, whether that's the next season, or for the next game animal (think small game then deer the same year), or several years later with a different hunting partner, may get them a chance to enjoy a hunting trip and get interested.

Personally, I don't see many "pre-teens" using the apprentice license. Most parents of pre teens will insist on hunters safety before they allow thier children to go hunting. I see the apprentice license being used almost exclusivly by late teens and adulst who were never exposed to hunting when younger.

As a side note with this push to get more younger hunters, we need to push our freinds and relatives in thier attitudes about hunting. Too many times have I heard comments, usually from hunters in thier 40's, 50's or older, about how "women and kids aren't allowed at deer camp". In the hunting group I go with, they were shocked (and it wasn't well recieved) when I told them that that rule either changes by the time my daughter is old enough to hunt, or I will be finding a different place to stay for deer season from then on.