Hunting With Magazine

[Howard000003]

I am not a hunter myself and was unaware of this - However, I was recently informed only 5 round magazines could be employed whilst hunting deer in Michigan. Any one use 15 round are greater mags they "plug" or does everyone stick to the good old 5 round internal magazine rifles?

[Made_in_Michigan]

*speaking into the microphone*

I only use 5 round magazines....



(You are also legal if you only have 5 rounds on your person)

Honestly, I hunt w/ a shotgun which takes 5 rounds only. If I were to wander up north, I'm not sure what I would do w/ my rifle...

[JohnJak]

Only need one shot.

[huntmeister]

http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10366_37141_37706-31578--,00.html

Shell Capacity for Shotguns and Centerfire Rifles
It is unlawful to hunt with a semi-automatic shotgun or semi-automatic rifle that can hold more than six shells in the barrel and magazine combined unless it is a .22 caliber rimfire. Fully automatic firearms are illegal. All shotguns used for migratory game birds (including woodcock) must be plugged so the total capacity of the shotgun does not exceed three shells.


A conventional (smokeless powder) handgun must be .35 caliber or larger and loaded with straight-walled cartridges and may be single- or multiple-shot but cannot exceed a maximum capacity of nine rounds in the barrel and magazine combined

[dougwg]

So you're saying not to use a drum mag on an AR in Jackson?

[7.62 Nato]

So you're saying not to use a drum mag on an AR in Jackson?
I believe Jackson would be shotgun zone. :tsk:

[dougwg]

Ok, but what about on the 14th?

[Joeywhat]

Is this to say that you can hunt with any capacity magazine in a pump/bolt/other non-semi rifle or shotgun? So I could strap a drum mag onto my pump 30-06 and still be good to go?

[2ndAmendment]

.......

[huntmeister]

Is this to say that you can hunt with any capacity magazine in a pump/bolt/other non-semi rifle or shotgun? So I could strap a drum mag onto my pump 30-06 and still be good to go?

yes semi auto only

[sullyxlh]

The way I'm reading it is you can only use a mag that can no more than 5 for Deer
A plug can only be used for Waterfowl hunting and says nothing about plugging a mag for deer.
Shell Capacity for Shotguns and Centerfire Rifles
It is unlawful to hunt with a semi-automatic shotgun or semi-automatic rifle that can hold more than six shells in the barrel and magazine combined unless it is a .22 caliber rimfire. Fully automatic firearms are illegal. All shotguns used for migratory game birds (including woodcock) must be plugged so the total capacity of the shotgun does not exceed three shells.
http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10366_37141_37706-31578--,00.html

[russianblood]

The 6 rounds total isn't limited to deer. You can't hunt small game with a semi-auto rifle or shotgun with more than six rounds. That means no 10 round magazine in my Saiga .410 :(

[Sigman]

So your saying I cant use the 10rnd factory mag in my 10-22. Or the tube magazine in my Winchester? Are you sure?

[dougwg]

I believe there's an exception for rimfire...

[russianblood]

I believe there's an exception for rimfire...

Exactly! Rimfires are exempt. But if I want to use my Saiga .410 semi-auto or my M1 carbine for hunting small game or deer, I have to stick with a 5 round magazine.

[dontfeelbad]

\So I could strap a drum mag onto my pump 30-06 and still be good to go?

pics?

[dono]

The bright people at Remington said that the new 7400mags will work in my 742, they have no clue they do not feed right. so i use a 15rd mag every now and then seeing as i only have 1 original mag left.

So any way i got stopped this year for hunting with a 15round mag in my 742, but i only had 4 rounds total in the mag and gun combined. Officer said it was fine, just no more than 6 combined total (chamber and mag). He also said that there is no limit to how many rounds you can carry on your person, Just no more than 6 in a mag.

[CnA]

Only need one shot.

Not really.

This year I shot twice within 15 seconds with my Ruger M77 bolt action and got two deer (had a couple of private land doe permits). About 15 years ago I shot three times within 30 seconds and got three deer. Same gun.

2 years ago I missed and followed a deer as it ran. It stopped just a little while later. Got it on the second shot.

I love the simplicity of the Ruger bolt action, but would love to build up a sub 1 moa AR-10. It would make a great deer and elk rifle, plus get the Fudd's panties in a bunch. :laughing:

[Done Deal]

So any way i got stopped this year for hunting with a 15round mag in my 742, but i only had 4 rounds total in the mag and gun combined. Officer said it was fine, just no more than 6 combined total (chamber and mag).

Was this a CO that told you that?

If so, he had better brush up on the laws.

[DickTracy1953]

Every time I observe a hunter nearby afield with a Remington 740, 742, or 7400 my neck starts to twitch. Some of these guys carry three magazines. When they see a deer the shooting gets fast and furious as they change though all of the mags. Often these fellas hunt in pairs which is even more dangerous as they egg each other on to foolishly engage impossible targets in a reckless manner.

When I first started to hunt we were allowed one bullet. The rule was not to take high percentage shots but to produce a clean kill.

I thought that you could not take a magazine afield for a gas gun that could hold more than five rounds. All of my gas guns are military ones. I own the following rifles: M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, Romanian SKS, Russian SKS, Egyptian FN-49, and a French MAS MLE 49/56.


This year I was thinking about goofing around with the M1 Garand Rifle so I picked up a couple of five round en-blocs. The more I thought about it I ended up coming to the conclusion that I should not handicap myself so out came the Remington 722 twins. If I need a change of pace I could reach for the Remington 721's or fall back on the 700's.

[russianblood]

I thought that you could not take a magazine afield for a gas gun that could hold more than five rounds.

You are correct. I e-mailed the DNR and got that same reply and it goes for all hunting, not just deer (with the before mentioned exception of rimfires). Whoever let the previous poster "off the hook" while carrying a hi-cap magazine was just cutting you some slack and not making it legal.

And I have the 5 round en-bloc clips for my Garand and 5 round magazines for my M1 carbine.

[dougwg]

Yeah, I'd say he got VERY lucky.

[DickTracy1953]

Thought so...

I have three five round magazines for my M-1 Carbine thought one stashed in my "for sale box" just waiting for the next gun show. The reason that I chose not to hunt with the M1 Garand is with iron sights you loose the early and late shot ability that you have when your rifle is scoped.

[BURR.30CAL]

Yeah, I'd say he got VERY lucky.
Ditto that!
Just about any magazine can be made a five-rounder. Just take out the follower and spring, insert a wood block of the right length, put it back together. May take some trial and error. More difficult to modify Garand clip, but I've done that, too. (Cut & bend.)

[Done Deal]

Just about any magazine can be made a five-rounder.


True but, I have found that the more things look to be in order, the less the CO is going to look for and the sooner that I can resume hunting. Why give them a reason to dig by having a mag in possession that could be illegal?

I only got checked once in the fall while hunting and that was on the water. One of the CO's saw the different piles of ducks and commented that they were seperated. I simply replied that I had been doing things awhile and everything was legal. It was a mighty short stop....which was good becaue we were downwind of the layout at the time and...we needed to be upwind.

Granted, legal is legal but....like I said, if a CO walks a quarter or half mile to find that your big azz mag hanging out of a black rifle is legal....he/she may be inclined to dig as deep as possible to justify the hike....if you get my drift. Why make them walk to begin with? Just buy a five rounder and play it safe.

[Tallbear]

Because I only own 10 and 20 round mags. that fit my Beowulf. I modify two to hold 5 rounds; one in the gun and one in my pocket. If a CO wants to stick around checking me out, he's welcome.

Had a CO pull up to my boat one day to check my license. He didn't have a reason to check me other than " I'm checking everybody on the lake today". Stuck around to BS some then was on his way. I don't mind them "stopping by" if they don't mind me "taking the shot" when the birds come in. :-)

But, if you want to buy me a couple 5 round mags, I'll use them. Other wise I'll use what I have.


True but, I have found that the more things look to be in order, the less the CO is going to look for and the sooner that I can resume hunting. Why give them a reason to dig by having a mag in possession that could be illegal?

I only got checked once in the fall while hunting and that was on the water. One of the CO's saw the different piles of ducks and commented that they were seperated. I simply replied that I had been doing things awhile and everything was legal. It was a mighty short stop....which was good becaue we were downwind of the layout at the time and...we needed to be upwind.

Granted, legal is legal but....like I said, if a CO walks a quarter or half mile to find that your big azz mag hanging out of a black rifle is legal....he/she may be inclined to dig as deep as possible to justify the hike....if you get my drift. Why make them walk to begin with? Just buy a five rounder and play it safe.

[Done Deal]

I only got checked once last winter but running dogs for yotes tends to attract attention (as does standing in the road running a tracker) so, I make extra sure that I am one hundred percent legal.

But, a couple of years ago, somebody called in a tresspassing complaint (when we had permission from owner) and the CO was not a happy camper after walking a half mile in deep snow and then tracking hunters.

All I am saying is that if you are out and about hunting....less intrusion upon the hunt is the preferred way to go. Unless of course you can get a CO to drive a swamp buck to you or some such thing...

[mechredd]

http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10366_37141_37706-31578--,00.html

Shell Capacity for Shotguns and Centerfire Rifles
It is unlawful to hunt with a semi-automatic shotgun or semi-automatic rifle that can hold more than six shells in the barrel and magazine combined unless it is a .22 caliber rimfire. Fully automatic firearms are illegal. All shotguns used for migratory game birds (including woodcock) must be plugged so the total capacity of the shotgun does not exceed three shells.


A conventional (smokeless powder) handgun must be .35 caliber or larger and loaded with straight-walled cartridges and may be single- or multiple-shot but cannot exceed a maximum capacity of nine rounds in the barrel and magazine combined

What about a manual action rifle or shotgun? I have a Marlin 336C that holds 7 total, and I don't know if I can plug the mag.

[russianblood]

The magazine rule only counts on semi-autos (rimfires are exempt)

[Done Deal]

I wonder what the DNR would think of an AR pistol with a 30 rounder above M-57???? Anybody know????

[wombat12]

http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10366_37141_37706-31578--,00.html
A conventional (smokeless powder) handgun must be .35 caliber or larger and loaded with straight-walled cartridges and may be single- or multiple-shot but cannot exceed a maximum capacity of nine rounds in the barrel and magazine combined

Ak pistol with a drum is a double no go- bottle neck round, and no more than 9 rounds total.