Berkley get OC.org get together [Archive]

pyzik

12-03-2008, 01:12 PM

Hey all, I did a search and this didn't turn up.

Opencarry.org is having a get together @ The Coffee Beanery in Berkley December 21st.

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=15478&forum_id=30&jump_to=310152#p310152

Just thought some might like to know if you are not a member at OC.org.

I am not a big open carry person, but love to get together with other gun folks.

Dang it! Ment to put this in the General Forum.

Done Deal

12-04-2008, 12:39 PM

Dang it! Ment to put this in the General Forum. If a Mod is reading this, can you move it please?

Looks like the place right here....afterall, it is about open carry.

RyanK

12-17-2008, 08:30 PM

Im going to this. I used to live in Berkley and have a feeling the cops are going to be present.

dougwg

12-18-2008, 12:41 AM

I think you'll be bored if thats why you want to come out.

But if you want to learn a bit about OC and meet some nice people I think you'll have a good time.

From what I gather it should be a packed house.

I just hope they have good coffee.

Joeywhat

12-18-2008, 12:49 AM

Too bad it's not between Xmas and New Years...I'd probably make it out if it were.

Seems all these sorts of events are either on bad days for me, or somewhere far away :|

dougwg

12-18-2008, 12:58 AM

car pool?

I'm willing to drive if you like.

And no you don't HAVE to OC.

Joeywhat

12-18-2008, 08:14 AM

I don't mind OCing, just busy on Sunday.

Norton

12-18-2008, 09:11 AM

Coffee is very good. Though I am surprised, I thought it to have a very liberal
cliental.
Norton

Venator12

12-18-2008, 10:05 AM

I'm concerned about the snow. That will definitely affect our turn-out. Let's hope it's a nice day with clear roads as I'm driving from the Lansing area.

One person mentioned our events are too far away, we have had people drive 3 hours to come to our events. I often drive 1-2 hours to met up with these fine people and I haven't been disappointed yet. Good people and good times. Some are even members of MGO...that's just an opening to say I joined today:woohoo1:

Venator12

12-18-2008, 11:10 AM

Host: Michigan Open Carry and The Coffee Beanery
Where: The Coffee Beanery: 28557 Woodward Ave. Berkley, MI 248-336-9930
When: Sunday December 21st, at 1:00 PM
Why: To share information on the legality of the open carry of a handgun in Michigan.

A joint event between Michigan Open Carry (MOC) and the proprietor of The Coffee Beanery is being held Sunday December 21st, at 1:00 PM. A Presentation will be given by Brian Jeffs a contributing member of Michigan Open Carry (MOC). Mr. Jeffs has given talks throughout the state on the topic of open carry of a handgun. Members of MOC will be on hand to answer questions and share their experience on open carry. This event is open to anyone that wants to learn more about the lawful open carry of a handgun in Michigan. Anyone that can lawfully possess a handgun is encouraged, but not required to open carry while at the event. Literature on open carry will be available. This is an informal and family friendly event that is open to the public. For information on this event contact Greg at 248-336-9930

Done Deal

12-18-2008, 12:27 PM

And what with the weather forecast, a shovel might come in handy....

Drive safe.

RyanK

12-18-2008, 02:23 PM

I think you'll be bored if thats why you want to come out.

That wouldn't be the reason I come out. I'd like to see what its all about. I OC'd in Novi a couple of times and caused a scene everywhere I went. Not by any actions of my own, i simply went to pick up some Thai food, but the scarred yuppie libs out here gasped in shock. Its ridiculous. Id like to see what the group has to say about such situations.

About the other issue, Berkley :cop: won't be too far away. They aren't known to approve of this sort of thing.. Just call them and ask ;)

Venator12

12-18-2008, 02:37 PM

That wouldn't be the reason I come out. I'd like to see what its all about. I OC'd in Novi a couple of times and caused a scene everywhere I went. Not by any actions of my own, i simply went to pick up some Thai food, but the scarred yuppie libs out here gasped in shock. Its ridiculous. Id like to see what the group has to say about such situations.

About the other issue, Berkley :cop: won't be too far away. They aren't known to approve of this sort of thing.. Just call them and ask ;)

Hope to see you there, do come and see what doesn't happen. In regards to scaring people we don't hear of that happing too often. We have found that those in the 18-25 year old range get more attention from the LEO's than us older guys and gals.

As for talking to the police about OC I have yet to hear of one encouraging it. They have there views on it and tend to try and discourage it whenever they can. But of the thousands of hours our members have OCed, very few
"bad" encounters are reported.

And even these encounters will be less as more people OC. It would be nice if the almost 180,000 CPL holders would OC one hour a week to see what doesn't happen and to get the public used to the sight of lawful citizens OCing. Perhaps some day.

pyzik

12-18-2008, 03:21 PM

Well, pray the weather isn't too bad. I am driving about an hour, which isn't too bad, but it will effect me if it is too nasty out.

Trying to talk the wife into coming, I want her to see carrying is more normal than she thinks. And that the folks doing it aren't paranoid weirdos.

johnzilla

12-18-2008, 07:55 PM

I'd go, but I think I'd look pretty silly with a gun belt and holster wrapped around my parka. :)

Done Deal

12-18-2008, 08:53 PM

I'd go, but I think I'd look pretty silly with a gun belt and holster wrapped around my parka. :)

And don't forget the sling for your shovel....

Looks to be an interesting couple of days for sure. Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.:bounce2:

pyzik

12-19-2008, 08:41 AM

dougwg

12-19-2008, 09:09 AM

I'd go, but I think I'd look pretty silly with a gun belt and holster wrapped around my parka. :)

You won't need the parka inside the Beanery. :p

dougwg

12-19-2008, 09:11 AM

Pretty nasty out this morning. Wouldn't be so bad if it werent for the idiots on the road.

Took me an hour to get to work today, usually it's half an hour.

The snow wasn't the worst part. It's people only doing 20 mph on the freeway that makes it so bad. In places I could get around them I could do 45 just fine. (Front Wheel Drive Car)

Thats because a lot of them are running around on bald tires....

I love counting the cars in the ditch and the tire tracks going into the ditches on my way to and from work.

Venator12

12-21-2008, 10:33 PM

Despite the weather we had a little over 20 people show up. There was a nice slide show on OC. I think everyone took away something new. Nobody panicked, not even the children, no LEO's showed up. All in all it was nice to see old friends and meet some new.

There was a nice young couple that was next to our group. She was from Michigan and living in Idaho with her better half (home for the holidays). She is a law student and was very interested in what we had to say. She didn't know OC was legal in Michigan. The man was used to OC since he was raised in Idaho. I talked with them and they are interested in getting CPL's especially when I told them that Michigan recognizes all non-resident CPL's from their home state.

pyzik

12-22-2008, 09:02 AM

Had a good time, this was the first event I have attended and was glad to be a part of it. Learned a few things, listened and shared some stories.

Met Venator, I think I met dougwg as well, great guys, nice crowd.

I plan to attend other events as often as posible.

Hcidem

01-09-2009, 01:09 PM

I hear these events are expected to be somewhat regular.

pyzik

01-09-2009, 01:32 PM

I hear these events are expected to be somewhat regular.
Below is a link to the updated "Get to gethers". There are two things scheduled right now, nothing in my area.
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=15478&forum_id=30&jump_to=339128#p339128 (http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=15478&forum_id=30&jump_to=339128#p339128)

Hcidem

01-14-2009, 09:28 AM

Below is a link to the updated "Get to gethers". There are two things scheduled right now, nothing in my area.
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=15478&forum_id=30&jump_to=339128#p339128 (http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=15478&forum_id=30&jump_to=339128#p339128)

You can always post a request on the site for a get together - just start a new thread.

Here is another radical idea...post a new thread here asking for the same. We have mirrored a few of the events posted there on the MGO board. Why not post an event here which could be mirrored on the other? Just a thought.

Always remember that open carry will always remain a practice. Any group that claims it as a reason for their existence cannot keep you from taking your own initiatives. An open carry event can be as simple as two or three friends meeting in a coffee shop.

Your first "event" should be structured to allow you to become accustomed to carrying in public. This can be accomplished in a very low key fashion - perhaps by just taking a walk with a friend in Ford Lake Park (in warmer weather perhaps). Always consider creating your own "event." Carry on...

fotophocus

01-14-2009, 09:36 AM

You can always post a request on the site for a get together - just start a new thread.

Here is another radical idea...post a new thread here asking for the same. We have mirrored a few of the events posted there on the MGO board. Why not post an event here which could be mirrored on the other? Just a thought.

Always remember that open carry will always remain a practice. Any group that claims it as a reason for their existence cannot keep you from taking your own initiatives. An open carry event can be as simple as two or three friends meeting in a coffee shop.

Your first "event" should be structured to allow you to become accustomed to carrying in public. This can be accomplished in a very low key fashion - perhaps by just taking a walk with a friend in Ford Lake Park (in warmer weather perhaps). Always consider creating your own "event." Carry on...

I wouldn't recommend Ford Lake Park for OC... unfortunately Ypsi Parks are CEZs.

http://www.twp.ypsilanti.mi.us/recreate/parksystem.shtml

Found that out when the wife and I were going to go for a picnic there last summer.

Hcidem

01-14-2009, 09:46 AM

I wouldn't recommend Ford Lake Park for OC... unfortunately Ypsi Parks are CEZs.

http://www.twp.ypsilanti.mi.us/recreate/parksystem.shtml

Found that out when the wife and I were going to go for a picnic there last summer.

Are they really? Thanks for the information.

I am sorry that my head is still a bit sleepy this morning...what is a CEZ?

PhotoTom

01-14-2009, 09:53 AM

Are they really? Thanks for the information.

I am sorry that my head is still a bit sleepy this morning...what is a CEZ?

Pistol Free Zone, otherwise known as a Criminal Empowerment Zone

ghostrider

01-14-2009, 10:15 AM

I wouldn't recommend Ford Lake Park for OC... unfortunately Ypsi Parks are CEZs.

http://www.twp.ypsilanti.mi.us/recreate/parksystem.shtml

Found that out when the wife and I were going to go for a picnic there last summer.
How do Yipsi parks fall under MCL 750.234d and MCL and 28.426o? Or, under what law can they ban firearms? Are they not public?

Venator12

01-14-2009, 10:18 AM

How do Yipsi parks fall under MCL 750.234d and MCL and 28.426o? Or, under what law can they ban firearms? Are they not public?
:yeahthat:

Hcidem

01-14-2009, 10:19 AM

Done Deal

01-14-2009, 10:21 AM

Those parks are run by the township, and are therefore covered under preemption.

It looks like we have an opportunity to write some letters, and plan some picnics for the summer.

Awh c'mon....be men about it. Have your OC picnic there today or tomorrow....why delay?

ghostrider

01-14-2009, 10:33 AM

Awh c'mon....be men about it. Have your OC picnic there today or tomorrow....why delay?
Will you please explain the purpose of that post?

dougwg

01-14-2009, 10:40 AM

Those parks are run by the township, and are therefore covered under preemption. It looks like we have an opportunity to write some letters, and plan some picnics for the summer.

Sorry about my leading question above.

"Park Rangers on duty during the park season that patrols all of the parks within the Township. If you need assistance, our park staff is there to serve you!"

We should invite the Ranger for a discussion on OC and Preemption if we do have a picnic there.

dougwg

01-14-2009, 10:41 AM

Done Deal

01-14-2009, 11:20 AM

Will you please explain the purpose of that post?

Sure....have you looked at a thermometer lately? Is your sense of humor frozen solid or what?

Done Deal

01-14-2009, 11:22 AM

I like the idea of waiting till summer for the picnics as it will be warmer and to go now, in the winter, is just stupid.

But I guess if someone has the balls and is a man and wants to set it up in the cold, I'll be there if they are.

Awh c'mon....consider forming an OC chapter of the Polar Bear Club....it would really get some press....

dougwg

01-14-2009, 11:24 AM

Given past postings I think it would be best if you're "joking" to atleast add a smilie.

Hcidem

01-14-2009, 11:25 AM

Awh c'mon....be men about it. Have your OC picnic there today or tomorrow....why delay?

LISTEN! THE ONLY EXUSE (...er, reason) WE ARE NOT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW IS THE LANSING RALLY!

Well, now that I think about it...I cannot attend the rally...and, er, that doesn't cover tomorrow...and, er...I do live in Michigan. Well, on second thought...I just don't want to freeze my little toes off. :scratch:

Hcidem

01-14-2009, 11:27 AM

Awh c'mon....consider forming an OC chapter of the Polar Bear Club....it would really get some press....

...but that would make our pistols rust.

Done Deal

01-14-2009, 11:37 AM

Given past postings I think it would be best if you're "joking" to atleast add a smilie.

Well, you seemed to have figured it out without much difficulty....maybe because there have been repeated references to the weather in this thread?