**SOLD** 1500 rnds Steel Core Chinese Ammo @ Gunbroker Auction [Archive]

customizedcreationz

12-20-2008, 12:17 AM

Dont hesitate, GB those things now at those insane prices. Holy crap.

I dont think your going to find someone to step up to those prices in MI , I am not sure if anyone has a job left here anymore.

Good luck, but like I said, I wouldnt think twice about it. Put them on GB !

Natedog

12-20-2008, 09:56 AM

I think your way off on the price, Just picked up 3000 rounds at Guns Galore in Fenton for around $250 a case and have no problems with them at all.

pbnationrc

12-20-2008, 10:11 AM

I think your way off on the price, Just picked up 3000 rounds at Guns Galore in Fenton for around $250 a case and have no problems with them at all.

yah but was it chinese steel core? It makes a difference

Tedfs

12-20-2008, 10:15 AM

What's so special about the Chinese steel core ?

Extra lead ... ?

Seriously , I have no clue other than not being imported any more.

pbnationrc

12-20-2008, 10:45 AM

there is no lead. Its all steel, armor piercing

UpNorthWOLF

12-20-2008, 11:10 AM

Detroit Tackleberry

12-20-2008, 12:19 PM

Well since they are being sold on GB for $800-1000 this is a fair description of value. But I am looking mainly to trade/sell for the right offer. If no one's interested that is fine but I figured I'd offer it here before I put it on GB as a feel for any interest locally. In a day or two I will put it on GB with a $999 reserve and probably end up getting more. But I will leave it here until I do so just in case......

P.S. I have seen it go through 1/2 inch steel like butter. But I never claimed it to be AP that was the United States Gobment that said so. With it's steel core it will definatly go through things that your usual production ammo won't. This is Chinese Miltary Grade Ammo.

Come on now, what kind of armor? Velocity has a lot to do with "armor" piercing, and the ballistics of this round just make that fantasy on real, military-grade vehicle/plate armor. If the others meant kevlar body "armor," a jacketed lead bullet will usually do just fine.

I have a some of this as well (not for sale) and I am not trying to dump on the thread, but please be more realistic. Especially on here.

Rick

customizedcreationz

12-20-2008, 12:41 PM

Man I hope you rack the big bucks on this ammo. It would be sweet to profit off a huge fat amount like that wouldnt it :shocked:

Everyone knows there is way cheaper ammo out there, but hey , if someone is willing to pay you that much, that will be a nice Christmas present wont it LOL.

Good Luck and I wouldnt even bother listing it here , just go and put it right on Gun broker.

Maybe its time for me to take out that stash of .308 I ve been hoarding and start listing it on gun broker..... ( 200 rnd packs at $140 all over the place).

Report back if you dont mind what it goes for.

Detroit Tackleberry

12-20-2008, 01:02 PM

It sure would....lol Just wish I had a few more cases. When I get it sold I will definatly link what it went for on GB..... As far as that .308 you might as well get in on the craze too......

Man I hope you rack the big bucks on this ammo. It would be sweet to profit off a huge fat amount like that wouldnt it :shocked:

Everyone knows there is way cheaper ammo out there, but hey , if someone is willing to pay you that much, that will be a nice Christmas present wont it LOL.

Good Luck and I wouldnt even bother listing it here , just go and put it right on Gun broker.

Maybe its time for me to take out that stash of .308 I ve been hoarding and start listing it on gun broker..... ( 200 rnd packs at $140 all over the place).

Report back if you dont mind what it goes for.

postban

12-20-2008, 01:28 PM

...

P.S. I have seen it go through 1 inch steel like butter. But I never claimed it to be AP that was the United States Gobment that said so. With it's steel core it will definatly go through things that your usual production ammo won't. This is Chinese Miltary Grade Ammo.

Not intending this to hurt your chances of selling it here but you are overstating its performance a bit.
It does penetrate decently but not nearly 1". It does this to 1/2" steel. Would take multiple hits in same hole as you can see.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/penetration/th_100_0242.jpg (http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/penetration/100_0242.jpg) http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/penetration/th_100_0240.jpg (http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/penetration/100_0240.jpg)
"0.5 thick steel showing "0.6 penetration

Detroit Tackleberry

12-20-2008, 01:34 PM

I meant 1/2" inch like butter.... Typo I will correct it......

Thanx for the demo pics..........

Not intending this to hurt your chances of selling it here but you are overstating its performance a bit.
It does penetrate decently but not nearly 1". It does this to 1/2" steel. Would take multiple hits in same hole as you can see.

pbnationrc

12-20-2008, 02:55 PM

Come on now, what kind of armor? Velocity has a lot to do with "armor" piercing, and the ballistics of this round just make that fantasy on real, military-grade vehicle/plate armor. If the others meant kevlar body "armor," a jacketed lead bullet will usually do just fine.

I have a some of this as well (not for sale) and I am not trying to dump on the thread, but please be more realistic. Especially on here.

Rick

Rick grow up, I never said it will go through military vehicle. Be realistic with your answer. Steel core will go through more than a normal FMJ. And most sites you go to, this is listed as AP. THere are different degrees of AP bullets.

The cheaper night vision thats out there, do you consider it still night vision. Even though its not military grade?

enough said

Natedog

12-20-2008, 03:01 PM

yah but was it chinese steel core? It makes a difference

It only makes a difference if your trying to pierce armor, which I hope no one is... It was not chinese steel core but I'm not paying that price for any ammo even if it's made out of titanium and diamonds. Sorry not trying to stomp on your thread. To some it may be worth every penny, I'm just not that fussy. It wouldn't last very long with me cause I like to shoot, it's hard to keep a supply stocked up.

pbnationrc

12-20-2008, 03:09 PM

It only makes a difference if your trying to pierce armor, which I hope no one is... It was not chinese steel core but I'm not paying that price for any ammo even if it's made out of titanium and diamonds. Sorry not trying to stomp on your thread. To some it may be worth every penny, I'm just not that fussy. It wouldn't last very long with me cause I like to shoot, it's hard to keep a supply stocked up.

oh ok, I thought is steel core. Yah to me its the same as FMJ unless it was uranuim depleted rounds.

Joeywhat

12-20-2008, 03:15 PM

Uhhh...isn't this a sale ad? How about we start a new thread if you want to discuss steel core and it's AP abilities...

Natedog

12-20-2008, 03:44 PM

Uhhh...isn't this a sale ad? How about we start a new thread if you want to discuss steel core and it's AP abilities...

Consider it free bumps to keep it at the top :whistle:

Detroit Tackleberry

12-20-2008, 04:48 PM

When I posted this thread I initially closed it for this reason alone. But since I guess I will be putting it on GB today anyhow guess it doesn't matter. Thanx for looking and to those who crapped all in my thread :bs:

customizedcreationz

12-20-2008, 06:51 PM

I think it was the nature of the beast to be honest. People will complain that your ripping people off when you sell it on gun broker. But to be honest, if someone is willing to pay it. Then so be it. Thats not your fault that they couldnt look and find it cheaper anywhere else.

I just hope that you rack in some cash on the deal.

Good luck as I ve said before, heck who wouldnt turn down a huge profit like this ?

Tedfs

12-20-2008, 08:53 PM

That would be hard to turn down a profit like that.

Gun Broker might be your best bet, I don't know anyone in Michigan that has money to spare for anything right now. But if they are selling on GB, I bet you'll get whatever price you put on it.

Detroit Tackleberry

12-21-2008, 05:27 PM

Gun Broker Bump!

It's up on GB now!

Link To GB Auction! http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=118982741

rattman2

12-21-2008, 06:22 PM

As P.T. Barnum allegedly once said "There's a Sucker born every minute"

Best of luck with your sale. You should have no trouble finding the customers you're looking for on GB.

Detroit Tackleberry

12-22-2008, 11:27 PM

Pre-Sale Bump. It's only a matter of time now before it sells on GB

Roger Roney

12-23-2008, 04:18 AM

Pre-Sale Bump. It's only a matter of time now before it sells on GB:rofl: (0315, 12-23-08 )# of bids 0 Roger

Pnab

12-23-2008, 08:35 AM

I am sure it will probably sell on GB. It is more of a collectors item than anything. I personally would not shoot it unless the SHTF.

Detroit Tackleberry

12-23-2008, 09:30 AM

:rofl: Roger

With Christmas here I don't expect it to sell til after.

I am sure it will probably sell on GB. It is more of a collectors item than anything. I personally would not shoot it unless the SHTF.

I agree! That's why if it sells or if it doesn't don't matter to me.
But if SHTF there is no better 7.62x39 ammo that I'd want to be shooting.....
At least out of the stuff we can get our hands on.....

Detroit Tackleberry

12-24-2008, 02:03 PM

Christmas Eve Bump...... Merry Christmas MGO

POLISHALE

12-24-2008, 02:41 PM

merry christmas DT

blk04f150

12-24-2008, 03:17 PM

merry christmas "DT"

Detroit Tackleberry

12-26-2008, 04:53 PM

Post Christmas Bump Happy Holidays MGO

Tedfs

12-26-2008, 08:26 PM

Damn dude, you just made a killing on that ammo.

Happy New Year.

TNT.45

12-26-2008, 09:01 PM

I hope he sells it just in case it is the Holy Grail of ammo... Maybe the Israel's can win a war then!

I still do not understand what makes this ammo worth 4 X as much...someone share the light!

Tedfs

12-26-2008, 09:15 PM

I hope he sells it just in case it is the Holy Grail of ammo... Maybe the Israel's can win a war then!

I still do not understand what makes this ammo worth 4 X as much...someone share the light!

Cuz most guys with more money than brains think this will save their asses when the Zombies start to invade or the Government decides to declare open season on civies.

What they can't grasp is Johnny Law has bigger and better toys then civies ever will and Zombies aren't made of metal.

Detroit Tackleberry

12-26-2008, 11:28 PM

Damn dude, you just made a killing on that ammo.

Happy New Year.

It hasn't sold yet........

mini4m3

12-27-2008, 01:43 AM

and Zombies aren't made of metal.

Noooooo our one weekness!

Nom nom nom nom braiinsss

Tedfs

12-27-2008, 03:26 AM

Sorry, I must have looked at the other auctions you posted.

Any ways good luck , Happy New Year and another bump!

Trev

12-27-2008, 07:06 PM

Only a little over 4 hours left. Hope it meats your reserve :thumbup:

buk

12-27-2008, 08:11 PM

drop that reserve!!!

or when it doesnt sell open up a 10 day auction ;)

Detroit Tackleberry

12-27-2008, 09:22 PM

Only a little over 4 hours left. Hope it meats your reserve :thumbup:

Doesn't look like it's gonna go first time around. :mrgreen:

drop that reserve!!!

or when it doesnt sell open up a 10 day auction ;)

:scratch: 10 day that's an idea!

MINISFORME

12-27-2008, 11:20 PM

I'll put it this way folks, I have shot Chinese steel core ammo thru .5 inch steel plates at 150 yards out of my SKS and AK's. It is the "shit" for piercing armor (thick steel plate) , anyway!

Jeff

Detroit Tackleberry

01-03-2009, 02:55 AM

TTT!

Because It Hasn't Sold Yet!

550 Rnd sealed can as well thinking of parting with if there is any interest.

agksimon

01-08-2009, 09:36 AM

It is also against Federal law to shoot, sell or give away AP 7.62X39 ammunition. You can possess it and that's all. Don't get caught.

customizedcreationz

01-08-2009, 09:53 AM

"If you are NOT a (FFL) licensee under the Gun Control Act (an individual):
It is: ok to OWN AP ammo
ok to SELL AP ammo
ok to BUY AP ammo
ok to SHOOT AP ammo
NOT ok to MAKE AP ammo (18 USC sec. 922(a)(7))
NOT ok to IMPORT AP ammo (18 USC sec. 922(a)(7))
The only persons who can make AP ammo are holders of a type 10
FFL, also needed to make destructive devices, and ammunition for
destructive devices. The only persons who can import AP ammo
are holders of a type 11 FFL, who can also import DD's and ammo
for DD's. The FFL's cost $1000 a year. "

http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIG1.html

Just something I found. I dont think its illegal to buy or sell AP. I see it all over the place, and marketed in shops and at gun shows.

postban

01-08-2009, 09:54 AM

It is also against Federal law to shoot, sell or give away AP 7.62X39 ammunition. You can possess it and that's all. Don't get caught.
Only if he is an FFL^

WHAT FEDERAL RESTRICTIONS ARE PLACED ON AP AMMO?

If you are NOT a (FFL) licensee under the Gun Control Act (an individual):
It is: ok to OWN AP ammo
ok to SELL AP ammo
ok to BUY AP ammo
ok to SHOOT AP ammo
NOT ok to MAKE AP ammo (18 USC sec. 922(a)(7))
NOT ok to IMPORT AP ammo (18 USC sec. 922(a)(7))

http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIG1.html

EDIT TO ADD, dang got beat by one minute but only 'cause I was cross referencing the BATF.gov site (unsuccessfully)

agksimon

01-08-2009, 10:22 AM

I should have stated it more clearly in my first post: Most AP ammunition is legal to shoot, posess, sell, etc. but there is an exception for 7.62X39 ammunition, as some company made a pistol that would shoot it and now it is banned as I mentioned above.

postban

01-08-2009, 10:37 AM

. but there is an exception for 7.62X39 ammunition, as some company made a pistol that would shoot it and now it is banned as I mentioned above.

Nope, no exception UNLESS THE SELLER IS AN FFL.

Olympic Arms, it was called the OA-93.
Rocky Mountain Arms made one too, called the "Komrade" it was red, remember a picture of it in an old issue of MachineGun News.

http://www.thegunzone.com/762x39.html

http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIL3.html

Read up^

customizedcreationz

01-08-2009, 10:57 AM

Too early in the morning mistake LOL.

Interesting. Another stupid ruling / law .

agksimon

01-08-2009, 11:42 AM

I just read through the law and I stand corrected. Hard to admit I made a mistake. LOL

Detroit Tackleberry

01-08-2009, 02:19 PM

The best thing is this isn't AP ammo it is Steel Core. The Librals had it labeled as such to make another reason not to import this ammo amongst other items that were being impoted at the time. More then likely it was cutting in to the sales of there ammo most likely making them lose money is the real reason they banned it's importation.

Detroit Tackleberry

01-10-2009, 04:05 PM

TTT!

Roger Roney

01-11-2009, 02:47 AM

SoldYou've made 130 posts, a majority in "FS/WTB," since joining in Sept, yet you still HAVEN'T READ THE RULES?????

Rules & guidelines (http://www.migunowners.org/forum/announcement.php?f=142)

Rule #8:
Once your item has sold, do NOT edit or delete the original title, ad text, or asking price. Leaving the ad in place after a sale is protection for both the buyer and seller, and also acts as a price reference for others. Edit the title and text of the ad to mark it "SOLD".

You started a ten day auction on Gun broker for this same ammo, the third, after it didn't sell on two seven day auctions, ~one-half hour before you made the above edit. It is still open/available and has no bids as of this hour.

Of course, you don't owe anyone here any answers, but can you explain what's going on?

Roger

Detroit Tackleberry

01-11-2009, 05:14 AM

You've made 130 posts, a majority in "FS/WTB," since joining in Sept, yet you still HAVEN'T READ THE RULES?????

Rules & guidelines (http://www.migunowners.org/forum/announcement.php?f=142)

Rule #8:
Once your item has sold, do NOT edit or delete the original title, ad text, or asking price. Leaving the ad in place after a sale is protection for both the buyer and seller, and also acts as a price reference for others. Edit the title and text of the ad to mark it "SOLD".

You started a ten day auction on Gun broker for this same ammo, the third, after it didn't sell on two seven day auctions, ~one-half hour before you made the above edit. It is still open/available and has no bids as of this hour.

Of course, you don't owe anyone here any answers, but can you explain what's going on?

Roger

:doh: I know how to follow the rules.... My apologies MGO Members I Re-Posted at GB since there was no interest here locally. When I did it with No Reserve I knew it would sell. So I posted it Sold in anticipation it would soon.
And I was right. I am also updating my retracted ad as well for the 550 rnd can I have. Because cross our fingers....lol It's SPF too. But it didn't sell here so all that doesnt matter what it went for because we all know GB prices are out of control:coocoo:thats why we love our site here so much. But since I promised our good friend Customized Creationz I would let the site know what it went for I will now post the auction for all too see.:peace:

Bob