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detroit_fan
01-09-2009, 10:42 PM
I know OC is a fuzzy issue, but can i open carry in my yard? Are the odds still high i will be harassed or have neighbors call the cops?

fotophocus
01-09-2009, 10:48 PM
It's not fuzzy - it's perfectly legal to OC in your own yard.

In regards to getting harassed, depends on your neighbors I guess

detroit_fan
01-09-2009, 10:51 PM
It's not fuzzy - it's perfectly legal to OC in your own yard.

In regards to getting harassed, depends on your neighbors I guess

I meant fuzzy if your off your property, meaning you might be harassed for doing it, even if there is no law against it. I support open carry, but have heard of some being arrested for brandishing or something else stupid, just wanted to make sure that wouldn't happen if i was in my yard.

fbuckner
01-09-2009, 11:32 PM
perfectly legal on your place dont worry about it.

detroit_fan
01-09-2009, 11:34 PM
thanks

ghostrider
01-10-2009, 12:50 AM
perfectly legal on your place dont worry about it.
Like he said, perfectly legal (just like it is off your property). However, that doesn't mean you won't be harassed for it.

halik008
01-10-2009, 12:53 AM
as i recall as long as your yard is fenced/ gated off LEOs cannot enter even if somebody calls you in.

Joeywhat
01-10-2009, 01:00 AM
I OC at my house all the time.

wishn-i-was-fishn
01-10-2009, 07:17 AM
as i recall as long as your yard is fenced/ gated off LEOs cannot enter even if somebody calls you in.

Good luck with that one.

I really despise the way the word cannot is used without additional modifiers such as "cannot legally".

If laws and signs prohibiting certain behaviors were truly "cannot" there would be some kind of invisible shield to prevent the behavior.

Case in point:


You cannot have a school shooting because it is illegal to possess a gun on school property.
In Michigan, you cannot be shot by a gang member under the age of 18 because he cannot purchase a handgun.
You cannot drive above 70mph on I75 because the speed limit is posted at 70mph.


It is just my pet peeve. People, including LEOs, and sometimes especially anyone in a position of governmental authority (I did not say everyone) will do whatever they damn well please. There is no such thing as "cannot", only cannot legally and that is only effective after the fact and may or may not result in legally enforced punishment.

halik008
01-10-2009, 11:41 AM
Good luck with that one.

I really despise the way the word cannot is used without additional modifiers such as "cannot legally".

If laws and signs prohibiting certain behaviors were truly "cannot" there would be some kind of invisible shield to prevent the behavior.

Case in point:


You cannot have a school shooting because it is illegal to possess a gun on school property.
In Michigan, you cannot be shot by a gang member under the age of 18 because he cannot purchase a handgun.
You cannot drive above 70mph on I75 because the speed limit is posted at 70mph.


It is just my pet peeve. People, including LEOs, and sometimes especially anyone in a position of governmental authority (I did not say everyone) will do whatever they damn well please. There is no such thing as "cannot", only cannot legally and that is only effective after the fact and may or may not result in legally enforced punishment.

lol you are arguing moot point. If they do it, charges will be dismissed instantly, as they did not have a warrant anyways.

Do you really think LEOs and the prosecutor will bother doing something that they know is in violation of the constitution? Common that Law 101.

Too people around here are paranoid about LEOs.

dougwg
01-10-2009, 11:53 AM
lol you are arguing moot point. If they do it, charges will be dismissed instantly, as they did not have a warrant anyways.

Do you really think LEOs and the prosecutor will bother doing something that they know is in violation of the constitution? Common that Law 101.

Too people around here are paranoid about LEOs.

It's not paranoia if it actually happens. :p

Hcidem
01-10-2009, 12:17 PM
...very, very true.

In regard to the OP, I always advise folks to know what their "property" entails. I would avoid counting the street right-of-way as part of one's property. Also, any large easements for power pylons, etc. in rural areas.

Technically, a person can legally conceal a pistol without a CPL while on his property. This is very helpful in rural areas, but probably is less advisable in the city unless one is in a fenced portion of that property.

Venator12
01-10-2009, 07:41 PM
as i recall as long as your yard is fenced/ gated off LEOs cannot enter even if somebody calls you in.

I have never heard of that. Can you cite it with a law? Even if you don't have a fenced in yard, the police would have to leave if told to, unless they have a warrant or have some RAS or PC.

Hugle
01-10-2009, 07:57 PM
lol you are arguing moot point. If they do it, charges will be dismissed instantly, as they did not have a warrant anyways.

Do you really think LEOs and the prosecutor will bother doing something that they know is in violation of the constitution? Common that Law 101.

Too people around here are paranoid about LEOs.
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_DK_
01-10-2009, 08:26 PM
God, I love this kind of talk. Can someone please send me the "eating popcorn" hook-up, this is going to get good!

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Hcidem
01-10-2009, 09:04 PM
...

Do you really think LEOs and the prosecutor will bother doing something that they know is in violation of the constitution?...

They're trained to make charges stick, and to win their case. Constitutional restrictions are low priority with many people in the legal system; there is no incentive to be otherwise. Sadly, some don't even have constitutional limitations on their radar.

who dat
01-11-2009, 12:46 PM
lol you are arguing moot point. If they do it, charges will be dismissed instantly, as they did not have a warrant anyways.

Do you really think LEOs and the prosecutor will bother doing something that they know is in violation of the constitution? Common that Law 101.

Too people around here are paranoid about LEOs.
It must be nice in that world of yours...the one with truth and rainbows and puffy little clouds with angels dancing.

ghostrider
01-11-2009, 02:26 PM
It must be nice in that world of yours...the one with truth and rainbows and puffy little clouds with angels dancing.
lol

Makes you wonder sometimes.

who dat
01-11-2009, 02:31 PM
God, I love this kind of talk. Can someone please send me the "eating popcorn" hook-up, this is going to get good!
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PhotoTom
01-11-2009, 02:33 PM
Or colonpopcorncolon

Wouldn't that be poopcorn? ....sorry!

Hugle
01-11-2009, 04:44 PM
:popcorn:

fbuckner
01-11-2009, 05:46 PM
I have never heard of that. Can you cite it with a law? Even if you don't have a fenced in yard, the police would have to leave if told to, unless they have a warrant or have some RAS or PC.


I havent heard of that either they are not Vampires. Heck I serve Papers and a no tresspassing sign means nothing to me as long as I am doing work for the courts.

Hugle
01-11-2009, 06:45 PM
I think I like this :popcorn: thing!!!!