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salt
04-16-2009, 02:30 PM
I'm going camping this weekend and as everyone know an IWB holster is no where near as comfortable as an outside one. Can I open carry in the campgrounds ?

Looking at the website:

http://www.state.mi.us/orr/emi/admincode.asp?AdminCode=Single&Admin_Num=29900921

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History: 2001 AACS.


R 299.927 State parks and recreation areas; unlawful acts.
Rule 27. In addition to the unlawful acts specified in R 299.922, in
state parks and state recreation areas, it is unlawful for a person or
persons to do any of the following:

(b) To carry or have in his or her possession a firearm, unless unloaded
in both barrel and magazine; to shoot an air gun, gas gun, spring-loaded gun,
or slingshot; or to shoot with a bow and arrow or crossbow, except
during established hunting seasons on lands designated open to hunting
under the authority of an order issued under sections 40107 and 40113a of
1994 PA 451, MCL 324.40107 and 324.40113a. This subdivision does not apply
to a target range or archery range officially established by the
department or to an officially sanctioned field trial. A person shall
not engage in target shooting, except on designated shooting ranges.

dougwg
04-16-2009, 03:03 PM
And the penalties....

R 299.929 Violation of rules; revocation of permit or eviction.
Rule 29. In addition to any other penalty prescribed by law, violation of
any of these rules may result in the revocation of a camping permit or
eviction from the state park, recreation area, access site, game area, or
designated campground, or both.

Venator12
04-16-2009, 03:10 PM
I'm going camping this weekend and as everyone know an IWB holster is no where near as comfortable as an outside one. Can I open carry in the campgrounds ?

Looking at the website:

http://www.state.mi.us/orr/emi/admincode.asp?AdminCode=Single&Admin_Num=29900921

i
History: 2001 AACS.


R 299.927 State parks and recreation areas; unlawful acts.
Rule 27. In addition to the unlawful acts specified in R 299.922, in
state parks and state recreation areas, it is unlawful for a person or
persons to do any of the following:

(b) To carry or have in his or her possession a firearm, unless unloaded
in both barrel and magazine; to shoot an air gun, gas gun, spring-loaded gun,
or slingshot; or to shoot with a bow and arrow or crossbow, except
during established hunting seasons on lands designated open to hunting
under the authority of an order issued under sections 40107 and 40113a of
1994 PA 451, MCL 324.40107 and 324.40113a. This subdivision does not apply
to a target range or archery range officially established by the
department or to an officially sanctioned field trial. A person shall
not engage in target shooting, except on designated shooting ranges.

I think you can carry with a CPL.

FROM MCRGO's FAQ's

Q-Some time back I believe that the MI attorney general issued an opinion restricting CPL holders to carrying their weapons UNLOADED while in state parks. With all the changes in carry laws and in light of the pending National Park proposal, I would like to know if this still holds true? Can you clarify how the law applies regarding all parks?

A-Firearms are allowed in National Forests but prohibited in National Parks. Federal law requires hunters on federal land to comply with the hunting laws of the state in which the federal land sits. The law of the State of Michigan allows hunters with CPLs to carry a concealed pistol while hunting. Therefore, Federal law allows hunters on Federal land in Michigan who have a CPL to carry a concealed pistol while hunting.

The Department of Natural Resources regulations require a person to have a valid Michigan hunting license if carrying a firearm in an area inhabited by wildlife. DNR also prohibits loaded guns in State Parks. Both of these laws were modified by 2004 PA 129 and 130 to exempt CPL holders as long as you are not attempting to take game. See MCL §324.43510 and MCL 324.504. You can now carry in a State Park the same as you carry other public places.

salt
04-16-2009, 03:39 PM
Thanks, I think I will just conceal carry for this trip. I'll make sure I have my hunting and fishing licenses too.

Jim Simmons
04-17-2009, 12:58 PM
I seem to recall a statute was enacted allowing CPL holders to carry concealed at state parks and campgrounds, overruling the administrative rules.