Womans Gun?

[PWND3r]

Well my girlfriend is turning 21 in a few months here. She loves shooting with me; I'm debating buying her a compact semi-auto to carry on her. She plans on getting her CPL when the time comes and I'd like her to be ready for it. Any good sized guns for a girl that you guys recommend? She likes shooting a 9mm, doesn't like the .45 but thinks a .22 is too girly if you get what I mean. She also said the .380 wasn't powerful enough but I think we should stay .380,9mm, and .40? maybe. Anyways, are there any pink guns or something? I remember seeing a Pink Taurus.

[Joeywhat]

Bersa Thunder (heard new ones have issues), Glock 19/26, M&P compact, any 3" .38 +P or .357 mag (can be used with .38)...there's a lot to choose from.

If recoil is an issue stay away from very small guns, especially in .380. Recoil is very stout in the very small and light guns...like the LCP or P3AT. Sunb revolvers are VERY difficult to shoot and the lighter versions also have very stout recoil, even with light .38's.

[Toledo Kid]

Lots of lil S&W 38sp revolvers on here forsale

[PWND3r]

Lots of lil S&W 38sp revolvers on here forsale

She doesn't like revolvers. She'd be more into a semi-auto. She says my Taurus 24/7 ProC has too much kick but she hasn't shot it yet. I'm trying to think of what 9mm she used. I almost want to say it was a PM9.

[tote'ngranny]

Being of that gender, but a lot older... I would stay away from *pink* because if you should decide to sell it, you would be limiting your buyer base, and IMHO.. I think they are less concealable. That color sticks out like a sore thumb when in hand. The S&Ws are great, very reliable, but if she has an issue with too strong of a trigger pull, you might have her try the new Ruger LCR.

ooops... I was typing and posted this right after your post before mine. so much for revolvers.

[PWND3r]

Being of that gender, but a lot older... I would stay away from *pink* because if you should decide to sell it, you would be limiting your buyer base, and IMHO.. I think they are less concealable. That color sticks out like a sore thumb when in hand. The S&Ws are great, very reliable, but if she has an issue with too strong of a trigger pull, you might have her try the new Ruger LCR.

ooops... I was typing and posted this right after your post before mine. so much for revolvers.

I think she'd probably carry it in her purse if anything, so I really wouldn't have to worry about concealing. As for selling it, I doubt I'd have to sell it. It'd probably just become another one of the ongoing collection.

[Toledo Kid]

PM9 is a hell of a pistol...With a Hell of a PRICE for a first time buyer/shooter...
I see where this is going.....:flamethr: :rant:
Talking through the man to get the answer from the woman!!!
Ah..No ya don't...
Been there done that wrote the book!!! hahahaha
Good Luck

[PWND3r]

PM9 is a hell of a pistol...With a Hell of a PRICE for a first time buyer/shooter...
I see where this is going.....:flamethr: :rant:
Good Luck

So what you're trying to say is that this is going to just turn into nothing or what? I'm lost.

I understand it's one hell of a pistol and I'm aware of the price tag. I used it as an example as to what type/size of gun she liked to use.

If I want to buy her a 1911 it's up to me or if I want to hand down my PM9. I'm asking for opinions here, not for this to turn into a flame fest :biggrin:

[Edward]

I think she'd probably carry it in her purse if anything, so I really wouldn't have to worry about concealing. As for selling it, I doubt I'd have to sell it. It'd probably just become another one of the ongoing collection.
Not a good idea to carry in her purse. Hard to get too and too much of a chance it will be taken from her/stolen.IWB,OWB or pocket carry is a much better choice.

[BOSS302]

Take her to the gun store and have her hold a few to see what ones she likes. If possible, rent the ones she likes best and see what she prefers.

[remingtondude58]

I think a Beretta Cheetah would be a good choice.

[kc8opc]

Para Ord PDA in 9mm, sweet shooter but what a price!

Honestly, someone bought me my first carry gun and it fits their hand perfectly.

Get her to a few well-stocked shops, and if she likes one they don't have for range rental, be sure to post here requesting a "tryout" as the folks around here will usually be right generous with theirs!

Best of luck, but a Gun Shop gift card in a car lock-box or special carry purse should go over well!

[Toledo Kid]

So what you're trying to say is that this is going to just turn into nothing or what? I'm lost.

I understand it's one hell of a pistol and I'm aware of the price tag. I used it as an example as to what type/size of gun she liked to use.

If I want to buy her a 1911 it's up to me or if I want to hand down my PM9. I'm asking for opinions here, not for this to turn into a flame fest :biggrin:Its like this partner..no pun...It happens to the best of us men!!!:razz:
No doubt in my mind you will fund it. But you cant just "BUY" a piece and expect it to fit someone else. There are a lot of choices that is if you gal will let you help her choose...hahahaha :razz:

As mentioned go to a Gun store look around, rent a few...:thumbup:

[PWND3r]

Its like this partner..no pun...It happens to the best of us men!!!:razz:
No doubt in my mind you will fund it. But you cant just "BUY" a piece and expect it to fit someone else. There are a lot of choices that is if you gal will let you help her choose...hahahaha :razz:

As mentioned go to a Gun store look around, rent a few...:thumbup:

Thats why I mentioned the PM9, she liked the feel of it, and she could control it.

[PWND3r]

Para Ord PDA in 9mm, sweet shooter but what a price!

Honestly, someone bought me my first carry gun and it fits their hand perfectly.

Get her to a few well-stocked shops, and if she likes one they don't have for range rental, be sure to post here requesting a "tryout" as the folks around here will usually be right generous with theirs!

Best of luck, but a Gun Shop gift card in a car lock-box or special carry purse should go over well!

Thanks for the idea. Hm.. Good stocked stores around Metro Detroit?

[PWND3r]

Not a good idea to carry in her purse. Hard to get too and too much of a chance it will be taken from her/stolen.IWB,OWB or pocket carry is a much better choice.

I understand. We'll see what she wants to do, I'm pretty sure I can open up some discussions about how she'd carry if she was to get her CPL. :rambo:

[RPMO6]

Thanks for the idea. Hm.. Good stocked stores around Metro Detroit?
Target Sports and Double Action rent handguns for her to try out.

[pilot22]

My wife has a S&W model 642 airweight 38 special. Hammerless....She absolutely loves it. Loves shooting it,says its very comfortably. Good luck to her.

[PWND3r]

Target Sports and Double Action rent handguns for her to try out.

Double Action wants $25 per gun, plus ammo. Plus range time. Thats easilly over $100 for an hour for one gun. Although I'd love to rent out the PN90 but thats another story lol.

[Mouse08]

Double Action wants $25 per gun, plus ammo. Plus range time. Thats easilly over $100 for an hour for one gun. Although I'd love to rent out the PN90 but thats another story lol.

The $25 includes range time...so not that bad a deal. They also give you $25 off IF you purchase a firearm. (Doesn't have to be that day...just save the receipt.)

Also, you mentioned pink...hehehe...me being the local pink queen have a CZ RAMI (purchased at Double Action for $500) that I got pink pearl grips for. She's real cute looking. I don't carry it much as it's a bit heavy and I prefer to carry my PM9. Which you also mentioned and I like a LOT!

[Knightrider03m]

Taurus Slim, M&PC, Glock 26.... the market is full of them.

[PWND3r]

The $25 includes range time...so not that bad a deal. They also give you $25 off IF you purchase a firearm. (Doesn't have to be that day...just save the receipt.)

Also, you mentioned pink...hehehe...me being the local pink queen have a CZ RAMI (purchased at Double Action for $500) that I got pink pearl grips for. She's real cute looking. I don't carry it much as it's a bit heavy and I prefer to carry my PM9. Which you also mentioned and I like a LOT!

Yep, the PM9 just fit her hand perfectly I guess. She liked it out of all the guns we shot that day.

[musashi]

My lady wanted a m&p9c. I did the right thing and bought it for her. She told me yesterday that she wants something smaller and lighter for her to toss in her purse when her work clothes will not allow a holster. Be warned, guns and shoes... My missus can't get enough of either.

[TFin04]

Lots of lil S&W 38sp revolvers on here forsale
I stopped reading at this post, these are typically the worst guns for females to shoot.

In my experience the M&P Compact has made the most females happy. It is a bit thinner and slightly longer than the Glock 26 and most seem to like that. Easy to reach controls, high capacity, easy to shoot.

To the OP- Get her some instruction from someone who knows what they are doing. Let a gun store employee sell you a gun and she won't be happy, I can almost guarantee it.

[PWND3r]

I stopped reading at this post, these are typically the worst guns for females to shoot.

In my experience the M&P Compact has made the most females happy. It is a bit thinner and slightly longer than the Glock 26 and most seem to like that. Easy to reach controls, high capacity, easy to shoot.

To the OP- Get her some instruction from someone who knows what they are doing. Let a gun store employee sell you a gun and she won't be happy, I can almost guarantee it.
Thanks.

I don't listen to gun store employees on which gun to get anymore, I pick what I like and ask questions.:lol:

[TFin04]

Where are you from?

[Toledo Kid]

I stopped reading at this post, these are typically the worst guns for females to shoot.

In my experience the M&P Compact has made the most females happy. It is a bit thinner and slightly longer than the Glock 26 and most seem to like that. Easy to reach controls, high capacity, easy to shoot.

To the OP- Get her some instruction from someone who knows what they are doing. Let a gun store employee sell you a gun and she won't be happy, I can almost guarantee it.Is that a fact??? Hmm... I think then you better argue that with S&W and their most successful handgun for the female...
Females have been using and buying those small 38 J's so much that S&W named one "The Lady Smith"!!!

I'll leave it at that and stop reading from here ...:salute:

[PWND3r]

Where are you from?

Warren.

[Rugergirl]

When it comes to a womans gun, there is only one gun you should get for her.


The one that she picks out:)

[TFin04]

Females have been using and buying those small 38 J's so much that S&W named one "The Lady Smith"!!!
You are kidding yourself if you think they made a special gun because so many women were buying them. The Lady Smith line is a marketing ploy and nothing else. "Oooooo, this one has real slim grips and look, it's even named the Lady Smith! I'll take it."

I draw my opinion from watching and teaching a lot of women to shoot. Seems your opinion comes from the name of a gun.

[TFin04]

Warren.
If you guys want to make it out a little further West toward the Dexter/Pinckney area I can gather a couple guns that may be good options for her and take you guys shooting. PM me if you want to set something up.

[Buffman]

When it comes to a womans gun, there is only one gun you should get for her.


The one that she picks out:)

+1 although a little guidance was given. My wife loves her Baby Eagle (Now Jericho's imported by KBI). IIRC they do have a compact version with a 3.5" barrel. My wife's is a semi-compact with a 3.8X" barrel. Very reliable gun. Easy to control.

[RSF]

let see


lousy sights
lousy triggers
limited ammo
recoil

But there small and cute and light thats why retards give them to there wives spouse and store clerks sell them
often my self and TFIN would hand the gun to the so called better half and say ok you shoot it now, then watch in horror on there faces too,

it is by far the worse gun to give a new shooter ....for carry or use

avoid the purse carry get smart carry rig

[tote'ngranny]

I got rid of my S&W 638 because the trigger pull was too difficult.

[BOSS302]

My wife has an HK P2000SK. Pricey, but it fit her small hands the best.

[autosurgeon]

Several women that I shoot with have Taurus PT111 Mil Pros and love them... I carry one myself... The new ones IE 3rd gen are very dependable little shooters... pretty easy to conceal as well.

The grip is fairly small so women with smaller hands can get a better grip than on someof the competitors out there...

But really she needs to try a few as others have said... BC in the end my opinion of the best gun or anyone elses is just that an opinion..

I would take TFin04 up on his offer if it was me! He will guide you right.

[xdmlapeer]

My wife ended up with a XDsc in 9mm after a few trips to the range renting differant guns.. and as far as the pink stuff.. Well I just made her some pink grips..

w w w.x-tremegrips.com/pics/pic4.JPG

[kc8opc]

My wife ended up with a XDsc in 9mm after a few trips to the range renting differant guns.. and as far as the pink stuff.. Well I just made her some pink grips..

w w w.x-tremegrips.com/pics/pic4.JPG

Congrats, that's some nice work!

[xdmlapeer]

Congrats, that's some nice work!

Thanks.. I've come a long way in a short time in the grip making area.. lol It's amazing what you can do with a laser .. And of course my wife had to have pink..

[CyborgWarrior]

When it comes to a womans gun, there is only one gun you should get for her.


The one that she picks out:)

My girlfriend shot everything I have. She shoots everything well. She loves the 1911. She hates the J-frame. Doesn't care much for the Glocks.

[Prettyinpink9mm]

I am 21 and am of small stature.. so I know what it's like to try and find a gun that encompasses ALL of the things that you want. After trying a LOT of different guns, I ended up with the S&W M&P9c. I am so happy with it! It's small enough to conceal (I am waiting for my CPL application to be processed, but I will be carrying on my waist). One of my favorite parts about it is that it comes with an extended magazine, so she could practice shooting with and without the extension!

The Firing Line in Westland has a great supply of new and used guns, and a huge selection of guns to rent. They're pretty reasonable as well. Also, sometimes they have pink range bags in (I have one) in case you would like to surprise her with one :wink:

[tote'ngranny]

Oh Boy... there are going to be some guys here tickled pink (pardon the pun) that you have signed on here. Welcome!
Kris

[Prettyinpink9mm]

Oh Boy... there are going to be some guys here tickled pink (pardon the pun) that you have signed on here. Welcome!
Kris

Thank you! :smile:

[PWND3r]

I am 21 and am of small stature.. so I know what it's like to try and find a gun that encompasses ALL of the things that you want. After trying a LOT of different guns, I ended up with the S&W M&P9c. I am so happy with it! It's small enough to conceal (I am waiting for my CPL application to be processed, but I will be carrying on my waist). One of my favorite parts about it is that it comes with an extended magazine, so she could practice shooting with and without the extension!

The Firing Line in Westland has a great supply of new and used guns, and a huge selection of guns to rent. They're pretty reasonable as well. Also, sometimes they have pink range bags in (I have one) in case you would like to surprise her with one :wink:

I think an M&P would be a bit big for her to carry. She loves the smaller guns, took her to a gun show this weekend.

[TFin04]

There is also a direct correlation between how small a gun is, and how hard it is to shoot and manipulate. Carry guns need to be small enough to hide, but too small and you greatly reduce your potential effectiveness with it.

[Prettyinpink9mm]

There is also a direct correlation between how small a gun is, and how hard it is to shoot and manipulate. Carry guns need to be small enough to hide, but too small and you greatly reduce your potential effectiveness with it.

I agree. I was just telling my boyfriend that I wish there was a tiny gun that would work equally as well as my M&P9c... That way I would feel better about taking it everywhere and it not being an issue to conceal. Oh well - I guess we can't have everything.

[RSF]

What holster are you using?
and have you tried appendix carry?

[musashi]

I agree. I was just telling my boyfriend that I wish there was a tiny gun that would work equally as well as my M&P9c... That way I would feel better about taking it everywhere and it not being an issue to conceal. Oh well - I guess we can't have everything.
If you find one let me know. My lady loves her M&P9c but wants something else for when she cant conceal in some of her work clothes.

I need to get her some new ideas for carry also. She is pretty stuck with having it at her 3 o'clock and with her petite build it is tough to conceal in anything less than a garbage bag like shirt

[RSF]

We have set up several shooter female with appendix carry rigs they are able to hide guns very well in that postion evenwith form fitting clothes due to natural curves.

[tote'ngranny]

We have set up several shooter female with appendix carry rigs they are able to hide guns very well in that postion evenwith form fitting clothes due to natural curves.
I bought a Raven apendix carry IWB upon Steve's advice, and I have to agree. I have a small waist line and carrying any gun for concealment is a challenge.

[Rasher]

Several women that I shoot with have Taurus PT111 Mil Pros and love them... I carry one myself... The new ones IE 3rd gen are very dependable little shooters... pretty easy to conceal as well.

The grip is fairly small so women with smaller hands can get a better grip than on someof the competitors out there...

But really she needs to try a few as others have said... BC in the end my opinion of the best gun or anyone elses is just that an opinion..

I would take TFin04 up on his offer if it was me! He will guide you right.

My wife has one of the PT111 Pro's (9mm for those that dont know the model), they are(were) offered in .380 to .40 in pink, and the other day I was at Gander in taylor, i could swear they had one in .32 but that had to be a missprint. Every female in my family that my wife has shown it to wants on now, so I dont think selling it would ever be a problem. I nice thing to know about Taurus auto's is that if for some reason a round does not fire, they have what they call 2nd strike capible you simpiliy pull the trigger and it will strike the primer again, no need to manually recock the gun.

[RSF]

. I nice thing to know about Taurus auto's is that if for some reason a round does not fire, they have what they call 2nd strike capible you simpiliy pull the trigger and it will strike the primer again, no need to manually recock the gun.


Why is that a good thing?

[tote'ngranny]

:yeahthat:
If you are lucky enough to get the second shot off. I would think you want the 1st shot to count!

[Rasher]

I'ts just a "feature" of the gun, yes I(we all) want them to go bang when the trigger is pulled, but if you shoot enuff-once in a blue moon you get a missfire, both factory and reloads. "Old" ammo is the wost a few years ago my f-n-l gave me some 9mm that he has had since he came home from Vietnam I would say that it ran about 15-20% missfires. Even when I was reloading alot we might get one every 2000-2500 rounds, both shotshell and brass. I just saying it does happen.

[tote'ngranny]

That is one of the main reasons that I bought a Glock... it isn't so picky about ammo used and has a stellar reputation for not having the miss fires as you speak of.

[Done Deal]

We have set up several shooter female with appendix carry rigs they are able to hide guns very well in that postion evenwith form fitting clothes due to natural curves.

Pics?

Seriously....I cannot get my daughter to carry because she doesn't think that she can effectively conceal something she can shoot in her form fitting clothes.

Granted, the pistol she has at home has a 3" bbl but, I am trying to get her to consider something smaller but....she doesn't like to shoot the smaller guns.

Catch 22 for her....

[tote'ngranny]

Raven Apendix Carry for Ruger LCP. The one issue is that there isn't much grip to draw easily. The extension is plyable to wrap around nicely and there so the belt clip does not get in the way of the grip. This is adjustable to fit different ways.

[Done Deal]

Raven Apendix Carry for Ruger LCP. The one issue is that there isn't much grip to draw easily. The extension is plyable to wrap around nicely and there so the belt clip does not get in the way of the grip. This is adjustable to fit different ways.


Thanks.

I know that I found with the grip extension on my LCP it made it alot easier to draw and shoot accurately.

[RSF]

the point it if the round doesnt go bang why trust it to go not bang again tap rack the gun and get to the next round.

[TFin04]

I'ts just a "feature" of the gun, yes I(we all) want them to go bang when the trigger is pulled, but if you shoot enuff-once in a blue moon you get a missfire, both factory and reloads. "Old" ammo is the wost a few years ago my f-n-l gave me some 9mm that he has had since he came home from Vietnam I would say that it ran about 15-20% missfires. Even when I was reloading alot we might get one every 2000-2500 rounds, both shotshell and brass. I just saying it does happen.

Hitting a primer again might make it go off. An immediate action drill will chamber a new round.

We already know the first round is defective, why trust it the second time?

DD- Smart Carry, Raven ACR, or even the cheap velvet-like uncle mikes IWB holsters work great for appendix carry.

[Done Deal]

DD- Smart Carry, Raven ACR, or even the cheap velvet-like uncle mikes IWB holsters work great for appendix carry.

I have a smart carry and a cheapo but....she has to decide she wants a different gun that will conceal better.

Wife is just using a cheapo Uncle Mikes for a j frame but....her clothes aren't quite so form fitting either.

Trouble is, neither my wife or daughter are semi fans....

[TFin04]

Steel snubby? That Mod 60 is probably a bit harder to hide because of the barrel and grip.

[Done Deal]

Steel snubby? That Mod 60 is probably a bit harder to hide because of the barrel and grip.

Daughter has a 3" stainless .357 and it is IMPOSSIBLE for her to conceal.

Wife has a couple of Airweights to chose from (one with and one without CT's)

I really would like both of them to have LCP's with CT's...but, what do I know?
That would cover the conceal part but...with the ammo shortgage, enough practice might be a trick too. Heck...I dunno...

[tote'ngranny]

I started with revolvers, but after giving in to trying semis... :biggrin:

[MrSmithMSU]

PM KayL and ask her about her "Steamer Trunk".

She helped my wife out with finding "her" gun (XD9sc). She doesn't carry it, but she liked it, so I bought her one (she liked the Bersa .380, too)

[boganz45]

I'ts just a "feature" of the gun, yes I(we all) want them to go bang when the trigger is pulled, but if you shoot enuff-once in a blue moon you get a missfire, both factory and reloads. "Old" ammo is the wost a few years ago my f-n-l gave me some 9mm that he has had since he came home from Vietnam I would say that it ran about 15-20% missfires. Even when I was reloading alot we might get one every 2000-2500 rounds, both shotshell and brass. I just saying it does happen.

Tap Rack Bang.

[007bondjamesbond007]

My Wife carries a Walther PPK/S in .380. The gun is thin enough to conceal but heavy enough to keep the recoil manageable. She also like the S & W 642 with the Crimson Trace Grips. She shoot that quite well putting all the rounds in a paper plate. I saw on the Military channel a range in CA that have female instructors teach women how to shoot and they use PPK/s.

A little history Hitler use a PPK to kill himself. How many Nazis did Glock kill?