MSP CCW Annual Report

[Ktulu]

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/CCWAnnualReport_75775_7.pdf

[goldwing2000]

Be warned... the file is 3.65 MB.

[Ktulu]

Here's a brief summary:

July 1, 2002 - June 30, 2003

Applications:

Received: 29914
Issued: 27499
Pending: 1871
Withdrawn: 13
Denied: 514

Violations by CCW holders for everything from expired license plates to homicide: 221

Convictions of said violations: 137

Last years report:

July 1, 2001 to June 30, 2002

Applications:

Received: 62902
Issued: 53000
Pending: 9072
Withdrawn: ?
Denied: 830

Violations by CCW holders for everything from expired license plates to homicide: 92

Convictions of said violations: 53


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Total permits issued since 7/1/01: 80,499
Total convictions of CCW holders since 7/1/01: 190
Percentage of CCW holders convicted of essentially any crime: less then 1/4 of 1%

[goldwing2000]

Another point worthy of noting is that there were only 52 licenses revoked (none in WaCo).

I'm assuming that those 52 are included in the 137 convictions.

[PhotoTom]

The backlog has really cleaned up in most counties.....until next year (renewals)....

:shock:

[bluethunder]

The backlog has really cleaned up in most counties.....until next year (renewals)....

:shock:

Ughh,don't remind me. :?

[Ktulu]

Percentage of CCW holders convicted of essentially any crime: less then 1/4 of 1%

I wonder what this percentage is with the general public. Say per 100,000 or so.

[Red Sector A]

Here's a brief summary:

July 1, 2002 - June 30, 2003

Applications:

Received: 29914
Issued: 27499
Pending: 1871
Withdrawn: 13
Denied: 514


I wonder how many of these denials actually stuck. When I went down for my stupid denial.. there were about 20 people there that had been denied... one old guy had a B&E charge that happened 50 years ago.. no conviction just the arrest.. and among those 20 people only 1 denial stuck.. all the rest were approved after they spoke to the board... talking to them most seemed to be some arrest or something that showed no convictions of any kind... they really had nothing but denied them anyway.

I bet out of those denied maybe less than 50 are probably warranted... of course we will never know.

[Jim Simmons]

It's too bad there's no category "denial reversed on appeal."

[goldwing2000]

That number may be a net figure, with the appeals accounted for.

[Jim Simmons]

I don't believe it is; there's nothing on the Clerk's report to the MSP that requires the Clerk of the Gun Board to count or mention reversals.

The way the reporting forms work, suppose County X has only one applicant. They reject that applicant, applicant appeals and wins, then the board grants him a license per the court's order.

Going down the reporting form, the clerk would probably count that as be counted as 1 denial and 1 grant.

That might explain the discrepancy in the summary numbers. They don't add up.

[goldwing2000]

Could be. In a way, it does kind of net out the numbers. Sorta. :roll:

[ccw4all]

WAYNE COUNTY DID NOT REPORT THE ACTUAL PERMIT COST

[goldwing2000]

I noticed that, too. I'll bet that would skew the hell out of the averages, eh?

[enfield]

I noticed that, too. I'll bet that would skew the hell out of the averages, eh?

For me and the wife it would - bet they wouldn't add in the cost of 5 trips to the gun board (Romulus and downtown) and 6 trips downtown to the Clerk: filing (2 trips), temporary permits (2 trips) and final permits (2 trips). Of course, the cost could be considered as payment for the education received in the travel down Michigan Ave. through the 'hood. What an eye-opener!!!

Wayne County is a bureaucratic nightmare that would put any banana republic to shame.

Still trying to convince the wife to move to rural Tennessee . . .