cliffd
11-20-2003, 08:34 AM
Good story about proper CCW use. I don't know what to make of the following quote though. I can't really tell if the leo is anti or not. This was after the CCW holder had admittedly tried to leave the apartment before being fired at.
"The ex-boyfriend is almost a poster child for the NRA," said Detective John Harris of the Southfield Police Department, explaining that he had used the gun in self-defense. "The present boyfriend seems to be somewhat jealous and needs a little anger management."
http://www.freep.com/news/locoak/nfight20_20031120.htm
Fred Mager
11-20-2003, 09:09 AM
It appears that the detective's comments are positive. The other guy besides being the assailant was also driving a stolen car. Wouldn't it be cute if he got it in a carjacking using that .22 he used in the assault!
Wesley w/Glock
11-20-2003, 09:27 AM
I was really disappointed to read:
The men fired their guns a couple of times each, police said. The ex-boyfriend took a bullet in the rear end, and Hamilton was hit in the knee, police said.
This is not the way it is supposed to go down. We expect the perp with the .22 to be a really bad shot but the CCW guy should be expected to do better than that. Both men were treated for wounds and released from the hospital.
I don't see the police quote of the "poster child" as negative. I think the words indicate this was the image of a perfectly and ideally justified shoot. The perp was shooting first. AOJ is absolutely and irrevocably known. This shoot was black and white with no grey. Letting the perp shoot first is scary, though. But I think it is to be expected. We, as law-abiding citizens, are always on the reactive side putting the perps one step ahead of us.
This underscores the need to train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, TRAIN!
goldwing2000
11-20-2003, 10:44 AM
And get the girlfriend some couseling. She's obviously a bad decision-maker.
papabear
11-20-2003, 12:26 PM
Could it be that the ex-boyfriend shot to wound the boyfriend? The fact that he did not shoot till after he had been fired at shows more restraint than I might have used in the same situation. :?:
Wesley w/Glock
11-20-2003, 01:39 PM
Could it be that the ex-boyfriend shot to wound the boyfriend?
Oh, goodness, gracious, I hope not! And, I think not. To be able to shoot with that much precision requires serious training under simulated stress. In fact, I don't think such precision is possible given combat conditions even among experts. And then after taking that level of training he would have known better than to shoot to wound. "Shoot to neutralize" is the operative buzz word here.
Red Sector A
11-20-2003, 05:42 PM
As the Antis claimed when the law was passed .. there would be stories in the papers regarding shooting ... but so far I have mostly seen positive articles like this one.. where a CCW holder justifiably used their gun to defend themselves. .. and not the "bloodbaths" they predicted. Funny how they were wrong once again.. isn't it? :wink:
A very positive article for CCW holders! :)
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