SB 0059 Eliminate gun boards; go to SoS

[durus5995]

SB 59 has passed the Senate.

There was one major change on the floor today (I haven't seen the text of the bill yet, but I've been told what is in it).

Here it is. Open Carry in Pistol Free zones will be banned unless you have the written permission of the owner/agent.

MOC has no official stance on this bill yet. We will be discussing it tonight.

Oh that sucks. If I am not mistaken the House can still change the bill where it has to go back to the senate correct? Anyways that language could be altered in the house version?

[durus5995]

As passed by the Senate.

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docume...-SEBS-0059.htm

[TheQ]

(10) An individual licensed under this act to carry a



concealed pistol, or who is exempt from licensure under section



12a(1)(h), shall not intentionally display or openly carry a pistol



on the premises listed in subsection (1)(a) to (h) unless the



individual owns the premises described in subsection (1) or is



employed or contracted by the owner or other person with control



over the premises described in subsection (1), if the possession of



the firearm is to provide security services for the premises or is



otherwise in the scope of the individual's official duties, or the



individual is acting with the express written consent of the owner



of the premises or an agent of the owner of the premises.

[zigziggityzoo]

A CPL class is now required every 5 years, as well.

[Dansjeep2000]

A CPL class is now required every 5 years, as well.

Not a big fan of that idea.

[TheQ]

A CPL class is now required every 5 years, as well.

Not sure where you read that? Cite Please!

[luckless]

Maybe i would have been better off being right. At least this will help us find out who our friends are and who is claiming to be a friend but isn't.

Funny, when I called my Senator's office this morning there were no gun issues on the agenda.

[xmanhockey7]

(10) An individual licensed under this act to carry a



concealed pistol, or who is exempt from licensure under section



12a(1)(h), shall not intentionally display or openly carry a pistol



on the premises listed in subsection (1)(a) to (h) unless the



individual owns the premises described in subsection (1) or is



employed or contracted by the owner or other person with control



over the premises described in subsection (1), if the possession of



the firearm is to provide security services for the premises or is



otherwise in the scope of the individual's official duties, or the



individual is acting with the express written consent of the owner



of the premises or an agent of the owner of the premises.

So if SB59 becomes law with that if you get extra training you can CC in a PFZ but open carry would be illegal? Or is it if you get the extra training OC and CC would be legal? Sorry if I'm coming off as ignorant just want to get it straight.

[TheQ]

So if SB59 becomes law with that if you get extra training you can CC in a PFZ but open carry would be illegal? Or is it if you get the extra training OC and CC would be legal? Sorry if I'm coming off as ignorant just want to get it straight.

OC in a PFZ will be illegal....kind of (whether or not you have an exemption). More on that later.

[zigziggityzoo]

Not sure where you read that? Cite Please!

here:

Sec. 5j. (1) A pistol training or safety program described in

section 5b(7)(c) meets the requirements for knowledge or training

in the safe use and handling of a pistol only if the program

consists TRAINING WAS PROVIDED WITHIN 5 YEARS PRECEDING THE DATE OF

APPLICATION AND CONSISTED of not less than 8 hours of instruction

and all of the following conditions are met:

EDIT: False alarm:

(7) ( The educational requirements under section 5b(7)(c)

for an applicant who is applying for a renewal of a license under

this act are waived except that the applicant shall certify that he

or she has completed at least 3 hours' review of the training

described under section 5b(7)(c) and has had at least 1 hour of

firing range time in the 6 months immediately preceding the

subsequent application. BEGINNING MAY 1, 2013, THE APPLICANT SHALL

ALSO CERTIFY THAT IN THE 1 HOUR OR MORE OF FIRING RANGE TIME

REQUIRED BY THIS SUBSECTION, THE APPLICANT FIRED AT LEAST 98

ROUNDS. THE EDUCATIONAL AND FIRING RANGE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS

SUBSECTION ARE MET IF THE APPLICANT CERTIFIES ON THE RENEWAL

APPLICATION FORM THAT HE OR SHE HAS COMPLIED WITH THE REQUIREMENTS

OF THIS SUBSECTION. THE LICENSING AUTHORITY SHALL NOT OTHERWISE

REQUIRE VERIFICATION OF THE STATEMENTS MADE UNDER THIS SUBSECTION

AND SHALL NOT REQUIRE AN APPLICANT TO OBTAIN A CERTIFICATE OR

UNDERGO TRAINING OTHER THAN AS REQUIRED BY THIS SUBSECTION.

whew.