S.B. 0610 SBR/SBS

[bradymsu]

im still not gettin it..... j/j ! awesome explanation. thanks

While committee chairs can fast track a bill by bringing it up in committee and passing it out of committee in the same week, most chairs will bring up a bill at least twice in committee, the first meeting for testimony and then at a second meeting for more testimony and a vote. Sometimes they don't take testimony at the second meeting but simply proceed to a vote. Changes most often occur to bills between the committee meetings to address issues raised in testimony at the first meeting. The fact that the bill didn't get a vote today is normal since it was its first hearing. This doesn't mean it is stalled. In fact, it looks like SB 610 is making great progress -for the Legislature. And while it's tempting to think the legislative process is slow, it's still often faster that the legal process and the ruling making process in the judicial and executive branches.

[Tallbear]

Sorry....wrong thread

[~JB~]

SB 0060 of 2013 (PA 0003 of 2013) Weapons; licensing; definition of federally licensed firearms dealer; modify. Amends sec. 2a of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.422a). Last Action: 2/20/2014 placed on third reading

Wrong thread?

You had me all excited for a minute, even though I watched them not vote on 0610 yesterday. Lol!

[Rod M1]

House Judiciary Committee


Kevin Cotter (R) Committee Chair, 99th District

Mailing Address
S-1288 House Office Building
P.O. Box 30014
Lansing, MI 48909

Phone: (517) 373-1789

Email: KevinCotter@house.mi.gov

Klint Kesto (R) Majority Vice-Chair, 39th District

Mailing Address
S-888 House Office Building
P.O. Box 30014
Lansing, MI 48909

Phone: (517) 373-1799
FAX: (517) 373-8361

Email: KlintKesto@house.mi.gov

Kurt Heise (R) 20th District

Mailing Address
N-699 House Office Building
P.O. Box 30014
Lansing, MI 48909

Phone: (517) 373-3816
Toll Free: (855) 737-5878

Email: KurtHeise@house.mi.gov

Joel Johnson (R) 97th District

Mailing Address
S-1286 House Office Building
P.O. Box 30014
Lansing, MI 48909

Phone: (517) 373-8962
Toll Free: (855) 563-5597 [855 JOELJ97]

Email: JoelJohnson@house.mi.gov

Andrea LaFontaine (R) 32nd District

Mailing Address
N-796 House Office Building
P.O. Box 30014
Lansing, MI 48909

Phone: (517) 373-8931
Toll Free: 1-866-DIST-032 (1-866-347-8032)

Email: AndreaLaFontaine@house.mi.gov

Tom Leonard (R) 93rd District

Mailing Address
N-1197 House Office Building
P.O. Box 30014
Lansing, MI 48909

Phone: (517) 373-1778
Toll Free: (877) 859-8086
FAX: (517) 373-5780

Email: TomLeonard@house.mi.gov

Martin Howrylak (R) 41st District

Mailing Address
N-890 House Office Building
P.O. Box 30014
Lansing, MI 48909

Phone: (517) 373-1783
Toll Free: 1-877-248-0001

Email: MartinHowrylak@house.mi.gov

Phil Cavanagh (D) Minority Vice-Chair, 10th District

Mailing Address
P.O. Box 30014
Lansing, MI 48909-7514

Phone: (517) 373-0857
Fax: (517) 373-5976

Toll-Free
(855) 347-8010

Email: philcavanagh@house.mi.gov

Ellen Lipton (D) 27th District

Mailing Address
P.O. Box 30014
Lansing, MI 48909-7514

Phone: (517) 373-0478
Fax: (517) 373-5884

Toll-Free
(888) 347-8027

Email: ellenlipton@house.mi.gov

Jeff Irwin (D) 53rd District

Mailing Address
P.O. Box 30014
Lansing, MI 48909-7514

Phone: (517) 373-2577
Fax: (517) 373-5808

Email: jeffirwin@house.mi.gov

Paul Clemente (D) 14th District

Mailing Address
P.O. Box 30014
Lansing, MI 48909-7514

Phone: (517) 373-0140
Fax: (517) 373-5924

Email: paulclemente@house.mi.gov

_____________________________
Angie Lake, Committee Clerk
517-373-5795
Email: alake@house.mi.gov

Time to crack the whip on the committee

Thanks! Very helpful.

[Tallbear]

House Standing Committee Meeting

Judiciary, Rep. Kevin Cotter, Chair

DATE: Thursday, February 27, 2014

TIME: 9:00 AM

PLACE: Room 521, House Office Building, Lansing, MI

AGENDA:
HB 4155 (Rep. Nesbitt) Weapons; licensing; certain firearm licensing information; exempt from freedom of information act.

HB 5324 (Rep. Jenkins) Weapons; licensing; firearm records; clarify exemption under the freedom of information act.

HB 5325 (Rep. Crawford) Weapons; licensing; definition of firearms records; provide for.

HB 5326 (Rep. McBroom) Weapons; licensing; firearms records; clarify what records are exempt under the freedom of information act.

HB 5327 (Rep. Rendon) Weapons; licensing; firearms records; exempt from freedom of information act and provide for disclosure only under certain circumstances.

HB 5328 (Rep. Cotter) Weapons; licensing; firearm records; clarify what is exempt under the freedom of information act.

HB 5329 (Rep. Pettalia) Criminal procedure; sentencing guidelines; sentencing guideline for certain firearm licensing information; provide for.

SB 610 (Sen. Green) Weapons; firearms; manufacture, possession, or transfer of certain short-barreled shotguns or rifles; allow.

HB 5091 (Rep. Johnson) Weapons; other; brandishing a firearm; exempt the carrying of a firearm that is holstered or carried on a sling.

HB 5092 (Rep. Dillon) Weapons; other; definition of brandish; provide for.

HR 199 (Rep. Shirkey) A resolution to urge the state of Illinois to recognize Michigan concealed pistol license holders as being automatically legal to carry concealed handguns in the state of Illinois.

[Shyster]

Apparently someone figured out that an SBR registered as a pistol could be carried as a pistol. I received word late last night that an H-1 version is going to be voted on Thursday.

Summary Points:
- The substitute made changes to the bill to reconcile differences between state and federal law that have been recently identified.
- While Michigan’s definition of a short-barreled firearm matches the federal definition, state law also treats ANY firearm 26” or less in overall length as a pistol.
- Some short-barreled firearms will meet Michigan’s definition of a pistol, while others will not. The original version of Senate Bill 610 did not account for this fact.
- Under the substitute, those that meet the definition of a pistol will also have to be registered at the state level. This will allow law enforcement to easily verify the short-barreled firearm is legally possessed if encountering one during a traffic stop.
- Those that do not meet the definition of a pistol must be accompanied by the federal registration paperwork during transport within the state for the same law enforcement purposes.
- Failure to register a short-barreled firearm qualifying as a pistol at the state level would be subject to the same penalties as failure to register any other pistol.
- Failure to carry the federal paperwork for a non-qualifying short-barreled firearm would subject the owner to a civil infraction, fine and temporary seizure of the firearm.

[Nic]

So even with this modification, SBRs that are 26" or less in OAL will still be registered as pistols and could be carried as such?

[DP425]

Apparently someone figured out that an SBR registered as a pistol could be carried as a pistol. I received word late last night that an H-1 version is going to be voted on Thursday.

I see they require possession of the tax stamp when transporting- am I wrong in recalling that as it is a tax, the only people entitled to see it are the ATF and IRS? I seem to recall having heard that a number of times; not sure if it's true

[Coctailer]

I see they require possession of the tax stamp when transporting- am I wrong in recalling that as it is a tax, the only people entitled to see it are the ATF and IRS? I seem to recall having heard that a number of times; not sure if it's true

It is a private tax document. The same as your tax return.

[ka64]

So even with this modification, SBRs that are 26" or less in OAL will still be registered as pistols and could be carried as such?

From what I understand if it was a Pistol before you add a stock - yes.

If it was a rifle chopped down - no.