SB 0112 Allow Concealed Carry in School

[Tallbear]

SB 0112 of 2013
Weapons; concealed; certain individuals to carry concealed pistols on school property in certain circumstances; allow. Amends sec. 5o of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.425o).
Last Action: 1/30/2013 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY

[SteakNEggs]

Ugghhh..

[45/70fan]

With the majority of school administrations being liberals this law will have absolutely no takers. I've already watched one superintendant get up and leave a meeting where the subject of guns in schools was mentioned, not even discussed, just mentioned.
I for one do not endorse this legislation and will tell Senator Green such.

[Tallbear]

SB 0112 of 2013
Weapons; concealed; certain individuals to carry concealed pistols on school property in certain circumstances; allow. Amends sec. 5o of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.425o).
Last Action: 1/30/2013 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY

[45/70fan]

How about adding at statement to the bill along the lines that if one person is permitted to carry on that property then all properly licensed individual may carry on that property.

[langenc]

With the majority of school administrations being liberals this law will have absolutely no takers. I've already watched one superintendent get up and leave a meeting where the subject of guns in schools was mentioned, not even discussed, just mentioned.
I for one do not endorse this legislation and will tell Senator Green such.

Thank you very much. Looks like we get to hang separately.

[Quaamik]

As I see this, it really is only going to allow some school districts to allow security, staff and teachers to carry. It seems to allow the CEO or Board of the school allow either emplyees only or anyone to carry if they have a CPL. Maybe I'm reading it worng, but I think the way it words "may authorize carrying ... by individuals or employees" implies "individuals" as anyone and 'emplyees" as any employee. Otherwise why would the next part say they cant discriminate against an emplyee who carried under this act? That wording would not be needed if they could say "Mary can carry but Steve can't"

While I don't think there will be a single school district that will allow parents or the public to carry, I think there may be some that will allow teachers & staff. I'm torn on this.


I don't think that it would undermine preemption as worded. Am I wrong?


I don't think it will benifit run of the mill CPL holders, but I don't see it hurting us if it doesnt put a crack in preemtion. It requires no added training and does not eliminate OC with a CPL.

I generally oppose "special classes" of CPL holders, but allowing teachers to carry where they work is (IMHO) a lot like allowing bar employees to carry in the bar they work in with the managments permission.

I guess I'd tenetivly support this, pending some input as to how it may affect preemption.

[3006safari]

I would like to have a letter to the governor prepared for Delegates to sign at the Michigan Republican State Convention next week. Specifically 0112, and house bill 4098. Looking for input on anything else I should include? Or is there a petition already circulating that I don't know of? I just checked there will be over 1500 state Republican delegates at the convention, hopefully many will sign.

[SperryBallistics]

It's early, maybe Im not reading this right, The addition to this bill is such;

AN INDIVIDUAL LICENSED UNDER THIS ACT TO CARRY A CONCEALED PISTOL MAY CARRY A CONCEALED PISTOL IN A SCHOOL OR ON SCHOOL PROPERTY IF THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OR SCHOOL BOARD OF THE SCHOOL HAS AUTHORIZED THE CARRYING OF CONCEALED PISTOLS IN THAT SCHOOL OR ON THAT SCHOOL PROPERTY BY INDIVIDUALS OR EMPLOYEES LICENSED UNDER THIS ACT, AS DETERMINED BY THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OR SCHOOL BOARD OF THE SCHOOL

So this means the Superintendent has the power to revoke your CPL license on "his domain". But for sake of argument, lets say do. Then follows;

(ii) A parent or legal guardian of a student of the school is not precluded from carrying a concealed pistol while in a vehicle on school property, if he or she is dropping the student off at the school or picking up the child STUDENT from the school.

This is telling me that at a school where Concealed weapons are prohibited, a parent would have to park their car off school grounds and leave their gun locked and unattended to drop off or pick up their kids from school without breaking the rule of the school board. Did I miss a verb somewhere?