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Thread: SB 213-"Reintroduced Version of SB-59"

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    SB 213-"Reintroduced Version of SB-59"

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    Second post FTW!

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    Discussion begins here again, as the legislation has now been proposed and issued a new number.

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    I still say churches need to be amended out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zigziggityzoo
    I still say churches need to be amended out.
    Churches and hospitals were put in last time for a purpose -- because those are the two that made the most butthurt last time.

    "Path of lesser resistance."

    Realistically this bill is going to have an uphill battle as it is.

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    On the whole this doesn't look too bad.
    I don't like the way that the training certificates will now expire, but there are "exemptions" for certain "classes" of people.

    We will have to see how it goes....


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    I can see this being abused.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundballer
    On the whole this doesn't look too bad.
    I don't like the way that the training certificates will now expire, but there are "exemptions" for certain "classes" of people.

    We will have to see how it goes....

    This was done to establish a standard. Some counties say they expire after a year.

    5 year limit doesn't apply to renewals.

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    Good work, thats a reasonable first step. Lets try to limit any BS getting added on.

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    After a quick reading it looks like this bill does the following;

    1) Allows school staff to carry on school property if licensed and if school board or superintendent says OK.
    2) Causes class certificates to expire 5 years after the class is taken
    3) Eliminates day care centers, stadiums, bars, 2500 seat entertainment facilities, college dorms and college classrooms from the PFZ restrictions.
    4) Allows hospital administrators to ALLOW concealed carry.
    5) Includes "Tazer" type devices as concealed weapons that are regulated by this statute.
    6) Requires additional verbaige on the CPL class certificates
    7) Eliminates the county gun boards and replaces them with State Police jurisdiction.

    It appears the bill does not address open carry in PFZ zones unless I didn't see that some where. It also does not require additional training.

    All in all, seems like an improvement on what we have now.

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