SB 213-"Reintroduced Version of SB-59"

[Roundballer]

I looked through 5o again and it only addresses concealed carry not open carry. Where do you think it talks about open carry?

It doesn't, it just gives an option of concealed. If there is no restriction named, there is no restriction. Open carry remains.

[xmanhockey7]

Okay- so I see the county gun boards would go away and state police would take it over- does this basically mean that we would have to go to any state police post to take care of the license?




EDIT: I like the blanket change to PFZ's; no additional training required. This is a good direction to go- we chip away at most of them now, maybe in another few years we can eliminate the rest of them. So far I like this bill! I hope it's successful!

No. You still go to the county clerk. The county clerk then sends it to MSP if I understand it correctly.

[Bronson]

I would have preferred schools having the option to opt "out" rather than "in". That way, it is already legal to carry in those places, and the administrators would have to do the work to make it illegal.

I'd agree, but as it stands it's a pretty good bill.

Bronson

[durus5995]

Any chance you could get a clause that states you can carry concealed in a school if its used as a polling place regardless of what the administrator would say?

Also is this bill going to take 2 years to get out of committee like last time?

[G22]

Any chance you could get a clause that states you can carry concealed in a school if its used as a polling place regardless of what the administrator would say?

I would like to know this as well. If this bill passes as is, would it trump current voting laws? Would it be legal for them to deny you access to your designated polling location if you were armed?


Also, I would like to know the rational behind the Tea Party's objections with the Secretary of State handling the process. Are they are OK with the State Police doing it? Agreeing to one State entity but not the other makes absolutely no sense to me.

Thanks

[luckless]

I would like to know this as well. If this bill passes as is, would it trump current voting laws? Would it be legal for them to deny you access to your designated polling location if you were armed?


Also, I would like to know the rational behind the Tea Party's objections with the Secretary of State handling the process. Are they are OK with the State Police doing it? Agreeing to one State entity but not the other makes absolutely no sense to me.

Thanks

SOS is elected. We have no control over the MSP. Who do you think libertarians would prefer? MSP has been demonstrably anti-gun/anti-gunowner for, like, ever! If you trust the government you will be delighted with MSP's control of the process.

[Shyster]

I am not in favor of this at all. There is no reason that a publicly-funded entity (i.e. a school district) should have the ability to deny my 2A rights.

[hendo]

I am not in favor of this at all. There is no reason that a publicly-funded entity (i.e. a school district) should have the ability to deny my 2A rights.

Exactly!
How many of these entities will NOT opt out if allowed.

[Unistat76]

I am not in favor of this at all. There is no reason that a publicly-funded entity (i.e. a school district) should have the ability to deny my 2A rights.

You could still OC in a school. I am in favor. It's better than what we have now, and I'd rather take something that has a chance of passing rather than a dream bill that will go no where. Snyder specifically had a problem with the last bill because of the school carry issue. If this is the price of getting something passed so be it.

Perfect is the enemy of good.

[dab102999]

I am not in favor of this at all. There is no reason that a publicly-funded entity (i.e. a school district) should have the ability to deny my 2A rights.

I have been following these threads and have a question for you Shyster..with the opt in clause if a school chose not to opt in and a shooting happened on their ground would that put more clout to a lawsuit to be filed against that school for not allowing full protection of there grounds and students??