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    After July 1st, airguns aren't firearms. Felons would have to be prohibited from using airguns not firearms and you can have a muffler on something that isn't a firearm. Call your rep and ask. Then tell him "thanks" for voting for it.

    Convicted felons should not see my post as legal advice. This is my understanding of the legislation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckless View Post
    After July 1st, airguns aren't firearms.
    ^^^ This is not correct. ^^^
    The only thing that happens July 1st is that MCL 752.891 to 752.892 are repealed.

    Most everything else goes into effect Aug 10th~12th, that is 90 days after it is enacted into law.


    Quote Originally Posted by luckless View Post
    Felons would have to be prohibited from using airguns not firearms and you can have a muffler on something that isn't a firearm. Call your rep and ask. Then tell him "thanks" for voting for it.

    Convicted felons should not see my post as legal advice. This is my understanding of the legislation.
    What I am reading is that using an airgun in a crime, is still a crime, for everybody. I don't see possession by a felon being illegal, it's possible that I missed it.

    And yes, the secret answer to the "muffler" on a pneumatic gun is hidden in the Michigan legal definition of "muffler". We are good to go to that count too.


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    HB 4151 of 2015 (PA 21 of 2015)
    Weapons; firearms; 1959 PA 186; repeal. Repeals 1959 PA 186 (MCL 752.891 - 752.892).
    Last Action: 5/13/2015 assigned PA 21'15 with immediate effect
    HB 4152 of 2015 (PA 22 of 2015)
    Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in MCL 8.3t; modify. Amends sec. 3t of 1846 RS 1 (MCL 8.3t).
    Last Action: 5/13/2015 assigned PA 22'15 with immediate effect
    HB 4153 of 2015 (PA 23 of 2015)
    Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in MCL 752.841; modify. Amends sec. 1 of 1952 PA 10 (MCL 752.841).
    Last Action: 5/13/2015 assigned PA 23'15 with immediate effect
    HB 4154 of 2015 (PA 24 of 2015)
    Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in natural resources and environmental protection act; modify. Amends secs. 40102, 40111 & 43503 of 1994 PA 451 (MCL 324.40102 et seq.). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4151'15, HB 4152'15, HB 4153'15, HB 4155'15, HB 4156'15, SB 0085'15
    Last Action: 5/13/2015 assigned PA 24'15 with immediate effect
    HB 4155 of 2015 (PA 26 of 2015)
    Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in the Michigan penal code; modify. Amends secs. 222, 226, 227b, 227c, 227d, 237a & 528a of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.222 et seq.). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4151'15, HB 4152'15, HB 4153'15, HB 4154'15, HB 4156'15, SB 0085'15
    Last Action: 5/13/2015 assigned PA 26'15 with immediate effect
    HB 4156 of 2015 (PA 25 of 2015)
    Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in 1927 PA 372; modify. Amends sec. 1 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.421). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4151'15, HB 4152'15, HB 4153'15, HB 4154'15, HB 4155'15, SB 0085'15
    Last Action: 5/13/2015 assigned PA 25'15 with immediate effect

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    I think most sane people are to the point of rolling their eyes and saying "get over it", because a felon with a BB gun is the least of our worries. Who cares if a felon shoots an air gun, heck most felons aren't even something to worry about with firearms, if they were that bad they wouldn't be walking free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjatoth View Post
    I think most sane people are to the point of rolling their eyes and saying "get over it", because a felon with a BB gun is the least of our worries. Who cares if a felon shoots an air gun, heck most felons aren't even something to worry about with firearms, if they were that bad they wouldn't be walking free.
    You mean to tell me that the thought of someone that wrote a bad check 35 years ago having a GUN doesn't terrify you?
    What if that person was within 1000 Ft. of your child?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader View Post
    You mean to tell me that the thought of someone that wrote a bad check 35 years ago having a GUN doesn't terrify you?
    What if that person was within 1000 Ft. of your child?
    You got that right!

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    The problem with the felon prohibition is that the fellow who wrote a bad check 35 years ago in order to buy food for his family and has lived an honest and productive life ever since after having paid his debt to society, is permanently prohibited from defending his family with a firearm during a violent home invasion. But if possessing a pellet gun or some other type of pneumatic gun is legal, he "might" be able to defend his loved one with a pneumatic gun.

    Virtually ALL gun control laws on possession of firearms are retroactive laws and violate the Constitution's prohibition on ex post facto laws. An no one seems to care.

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    HB 4151 of 2015 (PA 21 of 2015)
    Weapons; firearms; 1959 PA 186; repeal. Repeals 1959 PA 186 (MCL 752.891 - 752.892). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4152'15, HB 4153'15, HB 4154'15, HB 4155'15, HB 4156'15, SB 0085'15
    Last Action: 8/3/2015 Analysis File Added
    HB 4152 of 2015 (PA 22 of 2015)
    Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in MCL 8.3t; modify. Amends sec. 3t of 1846 RS 1 (MCL 8.3t). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4151'15, HB 4153'15, HB 4154'15, HB 4155'15, HB 4156'15, SB 0085'15
    Last Action: 8/3/2015 Analysis File Added
    HB 4153 of 2015 (PA 23 of 2015)
    Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in MCL 752.841; modify. Amends sec. 1 of 1952 PA 10 (MCL 752.841). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4151'15, HB 4152'15, HB 4154'15, HB 4155'15, HB 4156'15, SB 0085'15
    Last Action: 8/3/2015 Analysis File Added
    HB 4154 of 2015 (PA 24 of 2015)
    Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in the natural resources and environmental protection act; modify. Amends secs. 40102, 40111 & 43503 of 1994 PA 451 (MCL 324.40102 et seq.). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4151'15, HB 4152'15, HB 4153'15, HB 4155'15, HB 4156'15, SB 0085'15
    Last Action: 8/3/2015 Analysis File Added
    HB 4155 of 2015 (PA 26 of 2015)
    Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in the Michigan penal code; modify. Amends secs. 222, 226, 227b, 227c, 227d, 237a & 528a of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.222 et seq.). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4151'15, HB 4152'15, HB 4153'15, HB 4154'15, HB 4156'15, SB 0085'15
    Last Action: 8/3/2015 Analysis File Added
    HB 4156 of 2015 (PA 25 of 2015)
    Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in 1927 PA 372; modify. Amends sec. 1 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.421). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4151'15, HB 4152'15, HB 4153'15, HB 4154'15, HB 4155'15, SB 0085'15
    Last Action: 8/3/2015 Analysis File Added

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    HB 4151 of 2015 (PA 21 of 2015)
    Weapons; firearms; 1959 PA 186; repeal. Repeals 1959 PA 186 (MCL 752.891 - 752.892). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4152'15, HB 4153'15, HB 4154'15, HB 4155'15, HB 4156'15, SB 0085'15
    Last Action: 10/6/2016 Analysis File Added

    HB 4152 of 2015 (PA 22 of 2015)
    Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in MCL 8.3t; modify. Amends sec. 3t of 1846 RS 1 (MCL 8.3t). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4151'15, HB 4153'15, HB 4154'15, HB 4155'15, HB 4156'15, SB 0085'15
    Last Action: 10/6/2016 Analysis File Added

    HB 4153 of 2015 (PA 23 of 2015)
    Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in MCL 752.841; modify. Amends sec. 1 of 1952 PA 10 (MCL 752.841). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4151'15, HB 4152'15, HB 4154'15, HB 4155'15, HB 4156'15, SB 0085'15
    Last Action: 10/6/2016 Analysis File Added

    HB 4154 of 2015 (PA 24 of 2015)
    Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in the natural resources and environmental protection act; modify. Amends secs. 40102, 40111 & 43503 of 1994 PA 451 (MCL 324.40102 et seq.). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4151'15, HB 4152'15, HB 4153'15, HB 4155'15, HB 4156'15, SB 0085'15
    Last Action: 10/6/2016 Analysis File Added

    HB 4155 of 2015 (PA 26 of 2015)
    Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in the Michigan penal code; modify. Amends secs. 222, 226, 227b, 227c, 227d, 237a & 528a of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.222 et seq.). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4151'15, HB 4152'15, HB 4153'15, HB 4154'15, HB 4156'15, SB 0085'15
    Last Action: 10/6/2016 Analysis File Added

    HB 4156 of 2015 (PA 25 of 2015)
    Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in 1927 PA 372; modify. Amends sec. 1 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.421). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4151'15, HB 4152'15, HB 4153'15, HB 4154'15, HB 4155'15, SB 0085'15
    Last Action: 10/6/2016 Analysis File Added

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