HB 4653 Allow use of driver license photo on CPL

[zigziggityzoo]

If we want to thin wallets, then let's focus efforts on constitutional carry.

[EricF517]

I'm with roundballer on this one. Every doctor's office I've ever been to has a policy of keeping copies of ID and insurance cards. Given the way medical records are getting entered in to the federal system, and obamacare is trying to push an anti-gun agenda... I can see just going to the Dr's office and showing an ID causing a lot of problems.

What's the difference, you are already in the State database, and I would assume that you bought your pistol correct?

[Leader]

If we want to thin wallets, then let's focus efforts on constitutional carry.

Or... we could do it the government way and increase taxes so you don't have so much cash.

[Roundballer]

What's the difference, you are already in the State database, and I would assume that you bought your pistol correct?

Seriously? You can't see the difference?

• The State database is protected from the FOIA requests.
• Not even LEOs can access it without a good reason.
• The law only requires disclosure to LEOs.
• The actual card needs to only be displayed upon request of LEOs.
• Even though Drs' Offices may question about firearms, they are prohibited from demanding or withholding service. Why volunteer the information?
• The Feds (BATFE) is prohibited from maintaining firearm/owner databases, not so with "health records".
• There is no need to give information to those that can use it against you, including LEOs.

[MichiGUNDer]

Seriously? You can't see the difference?

• The State database is protected from the FOIA requests.
• Not even LEOs can access it without a good reason.
• The law only requires disclosure to LEOs.
• The actual card needs to only be displayed upon request of LEOs.
• Even though Drs' Offices may question about firearms, they are prohibited from demanding or withholding service. Why volunteer the information?
• The Feds (BATFE) is prohibited from maintaining firearm/owner databases, not so with "health records".
• There is no need to give information to those that can use it against you, including LEOs.

Thank you Roundballer and DrScaryGuy. I have been an advocate of integrating the CPL into the DL but clearly had not thought it through completely; especially tying together the fact that the DL image is a medical record.

#mindchanged

[twodogsanme]

If we want to thin wallets, then let's focus efforts on constitutional carry.

You can pass a back ground check you can carry , I see a few more states are coming around , Michigan needs to get on board

[lethean]

You can pass a back ground check you can carry , I see a few more states are coming around , Michigan needs to get on board

I like the idea of constitutional carry, but wouldn't want the CPL done away with entirely until it wasn't required to be able to carry in other states.

[Leader]

I like the idea of constitutional carry, but wouldn't want the CPL done away with entirely until it wasn't required to be able to carry in other states.

Then make the price something reasonable like $25 for 5 yrs.

[Pepe Scarcella]

If we want to thin wallets, then let's focus efforts on constitutional carry.

We have a winner!!!!

[SADAacp]

I like the idea of constitutional carry, but wouldn't want the CPL done away with entirely until it wasn't required to be able to carry in other states.

If Michigan gets ConCarry, the CPL won't go away as we'll still have 750.234d. e.g. Financial institutions and stores with a liquor license. ConCarry will not eliminate the PFZ's.