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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader View Post
    It'll never happen.
    That would be the general impression, based on past legislation.

    This Bill has 19 that are signed on at this point, it only needs another 36 of the 91 remaining reps to get behind it for it to then move to the Senate.

    It is not that much of a stretch if WE get behind it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundballer View Post
    That would be the general impression, based on past legislation.

    This Bill has 19 that are signed on at this point, it only needs another 36 of the 91 remaining reps to get behind it for it to then move to the Senate.

    It is not that much of a stretch if WE get behind it!
    Watch this space and MOC's Facebook page in early September.

    (This is not to take anything away from MGO, I just don't want to speak for MGO)

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    MGO Member Roundballer's Avatar
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    I, and many others don't do the Book of Face.

    If that is the sole portal to the internet, you are missing contact with a large portion of the more "senior" people that are on the 'net. We have a tendency to distrust certain things.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundballer View Post
    I, and many others don't do the Book of Face.

    If that is the sole portal to the internet, you are missing contact with a large portion of the more "senior" people that are on the 'net. We have a tendency to distrust certain things.
    +1 to that...
    No clause in the constitution could by any rule of construction be conceived to give congress a power to disarm the people. Such a flagitious attempt could only be made under some general pretence by a state legislature. But if in any blind pursuit of inordinate power, either should attempt it, this amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both.
    William Rawle - offered the position of the first Attorney General of the United States, by President Washington

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    Understood. That's why this forum is still going as well as MOC's forum. MOC also uses email updates which can be signed up for here: www.miopencarry.org/updates

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    I REALLY hope this goes through. I don't have too much expectation that it will, but I hope that it does.

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    this bill is a good first start, need to add jail time 30 to 90 days first time 1 year for any time they needed to be taken back to court

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    Quote Originally Posted by khicks View Post
    this bill is a good first start, need to add jail time 30 to 90 days first time 1 year for any time they needed to be taken back to court
    Writing a bad check is a felony, I think writing a bad law should be too.

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    HB 5500 '14 had a specific reference to 752.11. That was taken out in 4795 to make the bill more palatable. However, the bill does specifically say that the individual fines are in ADDITION to any other penalties provided by law. 752.11 can still be used, as well as any other criminal punishment the prosecutor thinks fits.

    Having the punishment in the bill would be nice, but as stated before, good luck getting a prosecutor to prosecute. With the new language, it's less scary to legislators, but still open enough in case someone actually finds a prosecutor with a backbone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundballer View Post
    I, and many others don't do the Book of Face.

    If that is the sole portal to the internet, you are missing contact with a large portion of the more "senior" people that are on the 'net. We have a tendency to distrust certain things.
    A lot of forums I used to frequent have switched over to FB. I used to think that FB was primarily younger people, but this doesn't seem to be the case. In the last few years, their largest growth was in the 55+ demographic and they actually lost people in the 24 and under demographic. My parents (who are in their 70's), along with a fair number of their friends, use it.
    Opinions and comments made by me on this forum should not be considered legal advice.

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