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    SB 0851 firearm liability insurance

    • SB 0851 of 2016
      Insurance; other; owner of a firearm to hold firearm liability insurance; require, and establish the firearms claims association. Amends 1956 PA 218 (MCL 500.100 - 500.8302) by adding ch. 49.
      Last Action: 3/9/2016 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS

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    SB 0851 firearm liability insurance

    So now they're gonna MAKE us buy firearm insurance? The insurance lobby in Michigan must be awful powerful. We already have some of the highest insurance rates in the country. Legalized extortion....I'm hoping this dies in committee
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    Oh, it is worse than just forcing us to buy insurance, it also creates another one of those "catastrophic" funds that will fund all sorts of actions against "illegal" guns. I also looks like it will create a way for the "Mommy of that little angel" to be able to sue (and get paid), as long as it was not "LEO" that did the shooting.

    This is typical of this Senator, and sole sponsor: Coleman Young II


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundballer View Post
    Oh, it is worse than just forcing us to buy insurance, it also creates another one of those "catastrophic" funds that will fund all sorts of actions against "illegal" guns. I also looks like it will create a way for the "Mommy of that little angel" to be able to sue (and get paid), as long as it was not "LEO" that did the shooting.

    This is typical of this Senator, and sole sponsor: Coleman Young II
    THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundballer View Post
    Oh, it is worse than just forcing us to buy insurance, it also creates another one of those "catastrophic" funds that will fund all sorts of actions against "illegal" guns. I also looks like it will create a way for the "Mommy of that little angel" to be able to sue (and get paid), as long as it was not "LEO" that did the shooting.

    This is typical of this Senator, and sole sponsor: Coleman Young II

    Funny, I didn't see anything about an LEO exemption in this legislation. FWIW, I oppose this legislation, gun owners should not have to carry insurance unless they personally decide to for themselves. .

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    Also a bit of a "back door" registry.

    Never mind that crimes are not typically committed by the legal gun owners.

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    (v) PROVIDE FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR NEIGHBORHOOD OR COMMUNITY

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    ORGANIZATIONS OR BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS FOR PROGRAMS DESIGNED TO

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    REDUCE ILLEGAL FIREARMS.
    And just who do you think those organizations would be? brady,bloomberg,ect.They want gun owners to be forced to fund the anti-gunners with our own money. Total garbage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Man View Post
    Funny, I didn't see anything about an LEO exemption in this legislation. FWIW, I oppose this legislation, gun owners should not have to carry insurance unless they personally decide to for themselves. .
    Second sentence first section:
    Senate 2016-SIB-0851
    Sec. 4901.
    An owner of a firearm shall provide security against loss resulting from liability imposed by law for bodily injury or death suffered by a person arising out of the discharge of that firearm. This section does not apply to a governmental agency. As used in this section, "firearm" means that term as defined in section 1 of 1927 PA 372, MCL 28.421. However, firearm does not mean an antique firearm as that term is defined in section 231a of the Michigan penal code, 1931 PA 328, MCL 750.231a.
    That certainly would include ALL LEOs, as well as any "other" individuals that carries a firearm as part of the governmental job.




    And for the troll that dinged me for actually reading the bill and giving my impression:

    Why bring up LEO's in this topic? Just have to get in more shots on the Police SMH
    Kiss my grits. Coleman Young II put it in the bill, not me. Step forward an discuss the issue instead of hiding behind the "reputation" feature!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundballer View Post
    Second sentence first section:
    Senate 2016-SIB-0851

    That certainly would include ALL LEOs, as well as any "other" individuals that carries a firearm as part of the governmental job.




    And for the troll that dinged me for actually reading the bill and giving my impression:



    Kiss my grits. Coleman Young II put it in the bill, not me. Step forward an discuss the issue instead of hiding behind the "reputation" feature!
    Boom headshot!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundballer View Post
    Second sentence first section:
    Senate 2016-SIB-0851

    That certainly would include ALL LEOs, as well as any "other" individuals that carries a firearm as part of the governmental job.




    And for the troll that dinged me for actually reading the bill and giving my impression:



    Kiss my grits. Coleman Young II put it in the bill, not me. Step forward an discuss the issue instead of hiding behind the "reputation" feature!
    Nope. It involves the agency's having to buy insurance, not the individual cop. Nice try in your attempt once again smear Police Officers. Agencies would be exempt. And again, I don't support any individual citizens having to buy insurance.

    But, you missed that point didn't you?

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