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Thread: HB 4474 Allow CPL carry on armory

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    HB 4474 Allow CPL carry on armory

    HB 4474 of 2017
    Military affairs; facilities; possession of concealed firearms on military premises; allow. Amends 1967 PA 150 (MCL 32.501 - 32.851) by adding sec. 338.
    Last Action: 4/20/2017 bill electronically reproduced 04/19/2017
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    Is this just a law to support what the guard is already doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP Miller View Post
    Is this just a law to support what the guard is already doing?

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    Sounds like it. TAG changed policy a few years ago to permit carry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP Miller View Post
    Is this just a law to support what the guard is already doing?
    Quote Originally Posted by DP425 View Post
    Sounds like it. TAG changed policy a few years ago to permit carry.
    What this does is shift who makes THIS decision to the legislature, and takes it out of the Adjutant Generals' purview.

    It firmly sets preemption for Michigan Military facilities and prevents a future TAG from changing the rules.


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    The TAGs first memo basicly stated that because guard bases are state property, they are preempted by law.

    Sets a fairly strong precedent to me.

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    HB 4474 of 2017
    Military affairs; facilities; possession of concealed firearms on military premises; allow. Amends 1967 PA 150 (MCL 32.501 - 32.851) by adding sec. 338.
    Last Action: 5/1/2017 Analysis File Added
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    HB 4474 of 2017
    Military affairs; facilities; possession of concealed firearms on military premises; allow. Amends 1967 PA 150 (MCL 32.501 - 32.851) by adding sec. 338.
    Last Action: 10/12/2017 Analysis File Added

    http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docume...SFA-4474-L.pdf

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    HB 4474 of 2017
    Military affairs; facilities; possession of concealed firearms on military premises; allow. Amends 1967 PA 150 (MCL 32.501 - 32.851) by adding sec. 338.
    Last Action: 10/17/2017 Analysis File Added

    http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docume...SFA-4474-F.pdf

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    HB 4474 of 2017
    Military affairs; facilities; possession of concealed firearms on military premises; allow. Amends 1967 PA 150 (MCL 32.501 - 32.851) by adding sec. 338.
    Last Action: 10/17/2017 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP Miller View Post
    The TAGs first memo basicly stated that because guard bases are state property, they are preempted by law.

    Sets a fairly strong precedent to me.

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    There have been a couple advancements of this bill that weren't noted in the thread.

    The House committee offered an H1 amendment, this line was added:

    (3) The adjutant general shall not promulgate rules unduly burdening on the ability of military personnel to possess a concealed weapon as described in subsection (1).
    They HAVE taken it completely out of TAGs control,

    The bill has passed the House, and is now out of committee in the Senate and refereed to the Committee of the Whole.


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