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Thread: HB 4851, 4852, 4853 and 4854 Modify Requirements for CPL & Eliminates No Concealed Carry Zones for CPL Holders

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    HB 4851, 4852, 4853 and 4854 Modify Requirements for CPL & Eliminates No Concealed Carry Zones for CPL Holders

    HB 4851 of 2017
    Criminal procedure; sentencing guidelines; reference in sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 11b, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.11b). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4854'17
    Last Action: 8/16/2017 bill electronically reproduced 07/12/2017

    HB 4852 of 2017
    Weapons; concealed; natural resources and environmental protection act; update references. Amends sec. 43510 of 1994 PA 451 (MCL 324.43510). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4854'17
    Last Action: 8/16/2017 bill electronically reproduced 07/12/2017

    HB 4853 of 2017
    Crimes; weapons; prohibition on carrying a concealed pistol; eliminate. Amends secs. 227 & 230 of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.227 & 750.230); & repeals sec. 231a of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.231a). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4854'17
    Last Action: 8/16/2017 bill electronically reproduced 07/12/2017

    HB 4854 of 2017
    Weapons; concealed; concealed pistol license for individuals to carry concealed pistols in pistol-free zones; require. Amends secs. 5a, 5b, 5c, 5f, 5o, 12, 12a & 15 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.425a et seq.).
    Last Action: 8/16/2017 bill electronically reproduced 07/12/2017

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    Actually, it looks pretty good.

    Unfortunately, it is a sole Rep introducing these bills with no other support.


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    I was under the impression that three reps that was behind the bill when it was first introduced, could be the media didn't state facts accurate again I guess.

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    Just click the links in PT's OP. You will see that the only name on any of them is Beau LaFave.


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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelm_ski View Post
    I was under the impression that three reps that was behind the bill when it was first introduced, could be the media didn't state facts accurate again I guess.
    There are a few different concealed carry reform bills that are currently being looked at. This one only has one sponsor. There is another that has 3 or 4 sponsors, and is more likely to move forward. Neither one has a good chance of getting past Rino Ricky though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divegeek View Post
    There are a few different concealed carry reform bills that are currently being looked at. This one only has one sponsor. There is another that has 3 or 4 sponsors, and is more likely to move forward. Neither one has a good chance of getting past Rino Ricky though.
    I hate how the politicians are for things when they want your vote BUT once in office it's to hell with the people and only their agenda and the money's importance.

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    When do these go up for approval. Politics are not my thing, but I just recently heard about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyPlunger View Post
    When do these go up for approval. Politics are not my thing, but I just recently heard about this.
    I hear in September when the house starts the new session


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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyPlunger View Post
    When do these go up for approval. Politics are not my thing, but I just recently heard about this.
    I'll try and give the short version of what goes on:

    1. A bill is introduced in either house.
    2. The bill is assigned to "committee" for review. At this point it can get buried and never see light of day again.
    3. Once the committee has hearings on the bill, and a vote is taken in committee it is sent back to the originating house.
    4. There the bill languishes until the leadership of that house takes it up.
    5. The bill will be read a second time.
    6. As wanted by leadership wants, it will be read a third time.
    7. If it passes, it gets transmitted to the other house.
    8. The bill is read for the first time in that house and assigned to that houses' committee. And again it can get buried again.
    9. Once the same process and hearings are done it returns to the floor for a second reading and third reading and vote.
    10. It is then returned to the originating house where, if there are no amendments, it gets transmitted to the Governor.
    11. If there were amendments, those would have to be approved by the originating house.

    With these bills, we are currently at step 2.

    These bills also have limited support in the House, so we don't really know what will happen in September when they reconvene.


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