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Thread: SB 0586 of 2017 Expand definition of "Local unit of government" and adds ability to adopt firearms policies pertaining to students

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    SB 0586 of 2017 Expand definition of "Local unit of government" and adds ability to adopt firearms policies pertaining to students

    SB 0586 of 2017
    Weapons; other; local units of government prohibited from imposing certain restrictions on firearms; expand. Amends secs. 1 & 2 of 1990 PA 319 (MCL 123.1101 & 123.1102).
    Last Action: 9/20/2017 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS

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    This bill adds "SCHOOL DISTRICT, INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL DISTRICT, COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT, PUBLIC LIBRARY, LOCAL AUTHORITY CREATED UNDER STATE LAW, OR ANY OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE" to the current definition of a "Local Unit of government".

    It also adds: "(2) THIS ACT DOES NOT PROHIBIT THE BOARD OF A SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE BOARD OF AN INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL DISTRICT FROM ADOPTING OR ENFORCING POLICIES REGARDING THE POSSESSION OF PISTOLS, OTHER FIREARMS, OR PNEUMATIC GUNS BY STUDENTS OF THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT OR INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL DISTRICT."

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    Without penalties, how does this get enforced?

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    If this were already law, the MGO v AAPS case would be wrapped-up already (if it ever had been needed).

    On the other hand, this bill opens the door wide open to schools being able to restrict students from firearms possession/carry.

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    At least the sponsors of this legislation now have bragging rights that they are doing something for gun owners in Michigan but have given us nothing in return.

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    so... community colleges, but NOT universities are addressed? They should technically be covered under "local authority" but by specifically naming colleges and not universities doesn't that give them a loophole to turn into a noose. even if it MAY fail on a court challenge, somebody is going to have to risk getting expelled to force it.
    "Sec. 2. All persons who are commonly known as “Greasers” or the issue of Spanish and Indian blood, ... who go armed and are not known to be peaceable and quiet persons, and who can give no good account of themselves, may be disarmed by any lawful officer, and punished..." - Disarming of "Greasers", An Act to punish Vagrants, Vagabonds, and Dangerous and Suspicious Persons” California, passed April 30, 1855.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoTom View Post
    If this were already law, the MGO v AAPS case would be wrapped-up already (if it ever had been needed).

    On the other hand, this bill opens the door wide open to schools being able to restrict students from firearms possession/carry.
    This would be a big blow to our friends at "Students for Concealed Carry".

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrScaryGuy View Post
    so... community colleges, but NOT universities are addressed? They should technically be covered under "local authority" but by specifically naming colleges and not universities doesn't that give them a loophole to turn into a noose. even if it MAY fail on a court challenge, somebody is going to have to risk getting expelled to force it.
    I think it is covered, "or any other political subdivision of this state". State Universities are created through State law and their boards are elected (for the most part), that would make them a State political subdivision. Community Colleges are created at the local level, but are regulated by the State.

    And note that only K-12 schools are allowed to set policy for students, not higher education schools.

    The State laws on WHERE you can carry on campus are not changing at this point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundballer View Post
    I think it is covered, "or any other political subdivision of this state". State Universities are created through State law and their boards are elected (for the most part), that would make them a State political subdivision. Community Colleges are created at the local level, but are regulated by the State.

    And note that only K-12 schools are allowed to set policy for students, not higher education schools.

    The State laws on WHERE you can carry on campus are not changing at this point.

    Good catch!

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    So this sounds like a pretty good bill right?

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