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Thread: ABC News: Firearm Confiscation Orders Part of Solution to Mass Public Attacks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyster View Post
    Yes.
    How badly were they damaged?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyster View Post
    Yes.
    Were evidence/case numbers carved into them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by red442joe View Post
    Were evidence/case numbers carved into them?

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    Everything came back undamaged. They also seized a bunch of ammo and other gear and as far as we can tell it was all returned
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader View Post
    Does the law allow them to share that list to just anybody?
    I have no idea, but I would guess the answer is "no".
    I didn't want to rock the boat at the time. Also no lawyers wanted to look into it without getting paid, for some reason. No idea if there would even be any kind of action or outcome
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyster View Post
    In my opinion having a court procedure to temporarily take possession of firearms would be am improvement over what actually happens around SE MI. In this area police routinely steal guns from people they "believe are a threat" with no due process whatsoever and the gun owner is forced to go to court to get a judge to order the return of the firearms.

    In April 2016 Dearborn PD took 29 firearms from one of my clients "pending an investigation" that he threatened a neighbor. He tried as hard as he could to get the PD to return the guns but was ignored. He finally retained me to file suit.

    I filed suit MORE THAN A YEAR AFTER THE SEIZURE. Dearborn then tried to get a felony warrant from the Wayne County Prosecutor's Office to avoid having to return the firearms. When we went to court the city attorney fought hard but the judge sided with me.
    excellent job!!! I'm upset that your client even had to go through all of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyster View Post
    In my opinion having a court procedure to temporarily take possession of firearms would be am improvement over what actually happens around SE MI. In this area police routinely steal guns from people they "believe are a threat" with no due process whatsoever and the gun owner is forced to go to court to get a judge to order the return of the firearms.

    In April 2016 Dearborn PD took 29 firearms from one of my clients "pending an investigation" that he threatened a neighbor. He tried as hard as he could to get the PD to return the guns but was ignored. He finally retained me to file suit.

    I filed suit MORE THAN A YEAR AFTER THE SEIZURE. Dearborn then tried to get a felony warrant from the Wayne County Prosecutor's Office to avoid having to return the firearms. When we went to court the city attorney fought hard but the judge sided with me.
    So if someone gets pissed at me they can call the police and say I threatened them and the police will come and confiscate my firearms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwade78 View Post
    So if someone gets pissed at me they can call the police and say I threatened them and the police will come and confiscate my firearms?

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    Precisely what happened
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyster View Post
    Precisely what happened
    What's the grounds for that? How can I protect myself, what if we move out of Wayne county

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwade78 View Post
    What's the grounds for that? How can I protect myself, what if we move out of Wayne county

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    Getting a lawyer is about the only option. The problem is more widespread in Wayne County than elsewhere but I would be willing to bet most police departments in this state have done something similar at one time or another. Which is why putting a statute in place would actually help people in my opinion.
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    Something like this?

    "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."


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