Potential Ban on Lead Ammunition and Shot in National Parks

Smokepole · 10-06-2009, 09:14 PM

CSC leads fights against NPS lead ban
October 6, 2009, 7:03 PM

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Congressional Sportsmen's Caucus House members, as part of the bipartisan Second Amendment Task Force, recently sent a letter to Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar questioning the potential ban on the use and sale of lead ammunition, shot and sinkers in national parks.

The House Task Force letter encouraged Salazar to "work closely with groups that represent hunters and anglers to develop a transparent scientific process to examine the impact of lead hunting and fishing products," and detailed Congressional concern about the proposed ban and its potential impact on sportsmen and wildlife management.

CSC Co-Chair, Rep. Dan Boren (D-Okla.) as well as nine fellow CSC House members, signed the letter asking Secretary Salazar to work closely with sportsmen's groups and develop an open, inclusive, scientific-based process to further study the issue.

"The CSC and Second Amendment Task Force continue to work diligently in urging the administration to reconsider the NPA lead ban and to further study the issue using sound scientific analysis," CSF President Jeff Crane said.

As a bipartisan working group dedicated to defending the Second Amendment rights of American citizens, the House task force wrote that "the rationale for such a ban is not based on sound scientific analysis and it would greatly restrict the ability of sportsmen to engage in hunting and fishing activities in the national parks that permit those activities."

Thirteen members of the CSC from the U.S. Senate also wrote Secretary Salazar on Sept. 23, requesting that "NPS cease all actions to prohibit the use of these lead products on NPS lands by private citizens and NPS personnel."

The National Park Service continues to pursue a ban on traditional ammunition that it announced earlier in the year would and applies to park personnel involved with culling sick and wounded animals, and indicated it would consider widening the ban to all hunters.

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langenc · 10-23-2009, 12:13 AM

Lead already banned looks like-so much for some scientific based studies..

Smokepole · 10-23-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by langenc

Lead already banned looks like-so much for some scientific based studies..

Chuck,
...Not sure what you're trying to say here.

langenc · 10-24-2009, 10:34 AM

""The National Park Service continues to pursue a ban on traditional ammunition that it announced earlier in the year would and applies to park personnel involved with culling sick and wounded animals, and indicated it would consider widening the ban to all hunters. ""

Guess I interpeted this to mean that a ban is now in place and lead is banned by 'cullers', et al.

JohnS624 · 10-24-2009, 11:52 PM

Isn't it illegal to hunt in a National Park anyways?

MarkSpacer · 10-30-2009, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnS624

Isn't it illegal to hunt in a National Park anyways?

Yes, for the most part... but with the passage of rules allowing for the legal carrying of concealed weapons, the nay sayers need another way to trip you up... and this is it. Those defense loads you carry, you know the ones with hollowpoints or exposed lead in the noses? Oops.... you're violating the lead bullet ban...

Wake up people...... don't be fooled by the tree huggers.....

JohnS624 · 10-30-2009, 03:28 PM

Corbon DPX.

lee · 11-03-2009, 10:24 PM

Hunting is legal in some National parks. In Michigan hunting is legal in both Pictured Rocks and Sleeping Bear National Lakeshores. You see me there carrying either an Russian AK or a Argentine FAL with 5 round mags--------loaded and walking in a National Park---------waving at armed Park Rangers. Never harassed.

If they ban lead, ok , I'll use Corbon copper bullets. I already have them for .308 and .40 , I don't know if they make them for 7.62 X39 though I believe I could get hand loaded ones using a .308 round.

If they pass this , I will make it a point to question every ranger if they are carrying correct lead free ammo as I will carry in my pistol after Feb. 2010. If they are exempt , I plan on making BIG NOISE about it since there are alternatives available. We could even use the tree huggers to give them so much crap they'll wish this law never passed. I get a kick out of showing government hypocrisy since it tends to convert a lot of sheeple into questioning folks.

10-06-2009, 09:14 PM	#1
Smokepole Bonafide Gun Guru Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At the center of Paradise Posts: 3,904	Potential Ban on Lead Ammunition and Shot in National Parks CSC leads fights against NPS lead ban October 6, 2009, 7:03 PM WASHINGTON, D.C. — Congressional Sportsmen's Caucus House members, as part of the bipartisan Second Amendment Task Force, recently sent a letter to Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar questioning the potential ban on the use and sale of lead ammunition, shot and sinkers in national parks. The House Task Force letter encouraged Salazar to "work closely with groups that represent hunters and anglers to develop a transparent scientific process to examine the impact of lead hunting and fishing products," and detailed Congressional concern about the proposed ban and its potential impact on sportsmen and wildlife management. CSC Co-Chair, Rep. Dan Boren (D-Okla.) as well as nine fellow CSC House members, signed the letter asking Secretary Salazar to work closely with sportsmen's groups and develop an open, inclusive, scientific-based process to further study the issue. "The CSC and Second Amendment Task Force continue to work diligently in urging the administration to reconsider the NPA lead ban and to further study the issue using sound scientific analysis," CSF President Jeff Crane said. As a bipartisan working group dedicated to defending the Second Amendment rights of American citizens, the House task force wrote that "the rationale for such a ban is not based on sound scientific analysis and it would greatly restrict the ability of sportsmen to engage in hunting and fishing activities in the national parks that permit those activities." Thirteen members of the CSC from the U.S. Senate also wrote Secretary Salazar on Sept. 23, requesting that "NPS cease all actions to prohibit the use of these lead products on NPS lands by private citizens and NPS personnel." The National Park Service continues to pursue a ban on traditional ammunition that it announced earlier in the year would and applies to park personnel involved with culling sick and wounded animals, and indicated it would consider widening the ban to all hunters. http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/g...ory?id=4537644 __________________ Ask me why I boycott Michigan Sportsman. com ...And, hope that you do too!

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10-23-2009, 12:13 AM	#2
langenc Hard Core Activist Associate Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Montmorency Co, MI Posts: 839	Lead already banned looks like-so much for some scientific based studies..

10-24-2009, 10:34 AM	#4
langenc Hard Core Activist Associate Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Montmorency Co, MI Posts: 839	""The National Park Service continues to pursue a ban on traditional ammunition that it announced earlier in the year would and applies to park personnel involved with culling sick and wounded animals, and indicated it would consider widening the ban to all hunters. "" Guess I interpeted this to mean that a ban is now in place and lead is banned by 'cullers', et al.

10-24-2009, 11:52 PM	#5
JohnS624 Junior Participant Associate Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Livonia Posts: 80	Isn't it illegal to hunt in a National Park anyways?

10-30-2009, 03:28 PM	#7
JohnS624 Junior Participant Associate Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Livonia Posts: 80	Corbon DPX.

11-03-2009, 10:24 PM	#8
lee Bonafide Gun Guru Associate Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,074	Hunting is legal in some National parks. In Michigan hunting is legal in both Pictured Rocks and Sleeping Bear National Lakeshores. You see me there carrying either an Russian AK or a Argentine FAL with 5 round mags--------loaded and walking in a National Park---------waving at armed Park Rangers. Never harassed. If they ban lead, ok , I'll use Corbon copper bullets. I already have them for .308 and .40 , I don't know if they make them for 7.62 X39 though I believe I could get hand loaded ones using a .308 round. If they pass this , I will make it a point to question every ranger if they are carrying correct lead free ammo as I will carry in my pistol after Feb. 2010. If they are exempt , I plan on making BIG NOISE about it since there are alternatives available. We could even use the tree huggers to give them so much crap they'll wish this law never passed. I get a kick out of showing government hypocrisy since it tends to convert a lot of sheeple into questioning folks.