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Jim Simmons
08-23-2004, 09:31 AM
Instructors:

Effective immediately, you should start adding this sentencing to your training certificates:

"This course complies with section 5j of 1927 PA 372."

Between now and October 4, gun boards cannot reject training certificates that don't have the statutory language, but otherwise comply with the certificate rules. Starting 10/4, gun boards can require the statutory language be on training certificates, and refuse to honor certificates that don't have this language.

This is in an effort to minimize gun boards' discretion to hassle applicants based on their training certificates.

Let me remind you, however, that you are now, even more than in the past, certifying the the class you have taught comports with 5j. NRA PPIH is specifically intended; instructors using other curricula need to satisfy themselves that what they teach comports with the law.

Feel free to re-distribute or publish this freely.

Fiddler
08-23-2004, 09:58 AM
Thanks for the update, Jim.

bluethunder
08-24-2004, 09:26 AM
(tip my hat) Thanks, Jim. This is vital info for us.

BA
08-24-2004, 02:14 PM
Thanks Jim, would the above be addition to the following
" Course, comply with Michigan Law, PA381 of 2000 as amended by PA719 of 2002 Effective July 1, 2003 " Some Instructor are using this on their Certifcates. On my original it had to state " PA 381" in some form not sure of the exact wording. I'll try to pull the file tonight.

Brian

ltdave
08-24-2004, 05:35 PM
the idiots on my board told me that the 1927 PA 372 was NOT VALID and that i had to have the 2002 PA 719 (or whatever it is) since that is the latest law. i told them that its NOT the law it is the latest amendment to it and that the original law is the 1927 law...

BTW (first time ive used an acronym since 8 yrs in the air force!) ive been putting that on my certs since i started teaching PPIH in 2001...

thanks for the note tho for other instructors...

david

Beagle1
08-25-2004, 11:12 AM
So if your cert has the old lingo, but your app went in before October, but your fingerprint date is late in October, and you will not see your permit (my wife) or renewal (me) for 4-6 months (WaCo) how will they handle that?

Both of ours still refer to PA381