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ZIPGRAVER
12-17-2004, 10:21 AM
This is really sad. Look what our friends the ******* Brits did. They were supposed to give these all back. Check out the rest of this site too.

http://www.project-x.org.uk/armsdumpindex.html

http://img137.exs.cx/img137/183/armspic0186ko.jpg

goldwing2000
12-17-2004, 10:37 AM
Damn... those Tommys would be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. Now they're only good for scrap. :mad:

mkls0
12-17-2004, 11:20 AM
O man this is war we need to go get all there guns and save them :(

Jim Simmons
12-17-2004, 02:40 PM
They look like they've been exposed to the elements for forever. The rest of the pictures in the group make it look like there's not much more than rusting scrap.

Where is this supposed to be?

karcent
12-17-2004, 02:47 PM
There is no way those Thompsons could ever come back into the county due to the import ban and the fact they they were never papered with the BATF prior to 1987.
There is no way they could ever be made legal in the US under any circumstances.

ZIPGRAVER
12-17-2004, 02:50 PM
There is no way those Thompsons could ever come back into the county due to the import ban and the fact they they were never papered with the BATF prior to 1987.
There is no way they could ever be made legal in the US under any circumstances.

We're talking about lend-lease here. Those are all form WWII that Brits kept....they never returned anything. Those were never paid for so they rightfully belong the U.S. military. It makes no difference it's just a sad story...so many beautiful guns gone to rust

ZIPGRAVER
12-17-2004, 02:53 PM
They look like they've been exposed to the elements for forever. The rest of the pictures in the group make it look like there's not much more than rusting scrap.

Where is this supposed to be?

In England somewhere. It has to be a gun dump for all kind of military arms.

karcent
12-17-2004, 03:10 PM
There is no way those Thompsons could ever come back into the county due to the import ban and the fact they they were never papered with the BATF prior to 1987.
There is no way they could ever be made legal in the US under any circumstances.

We're talking about lend-lease here. Those are all form WWII that Brits kept....they never returned anything. Those were never paid for so they rightfully belong the U.S. military. It makes no difference it's just a sad story...so many beautiful guns gone to rust

Not entirely true. Many (maybe all) of the M1 Garands found there way back. All of them in "as new" condition. They were british proofed, but never issued.
There were also many revolvers and 1911s returned.

ZIPGRAVER
12-17-2004, 06:17 PM
There is no way those Thompsons could ever come back into the county due to the import ban and the fact they they were never papered with the BATF prior to 1987.
There is no way they could ever be made legal in the US under any circumstances.

We're talking about lend-lease here. Those are all form WWII that Brits kept....they never returned anything. Those were never paid for so they rightfully belong the U.S. military. It makes no difference it's just a sad story...so many beautiful guns gone to rust

Not entirely true. Many (maybe all) of the M1 Garands found there way back. All of them in "as new" condition. They were british proofed, but never issued.
There were also many revolvers and 1911s returned.

Reason they returned the M1s was because the U S didn't issue any 06 ammo to the Brits. They used only .303. Maybe I said the wrong thing in "not returned anything" what I meant was "not paid for" The U S taxpayers paid for the British arms we sent between 1940 and 1945. If you notice they all look like late issue Thompsons I believe the designation was 1928A1 M1 because the bolt handle is on the side. They weren't made like that until late 1942. So because the U S needed to supply it's own troops in 42, by the time the Brits would have gotten them it might have been well into 43 or even 44 maybe not until D-Day.

Still sad.

Jim Simmons
12-17-2004, 08:56 PM
Lend-lease was necessary to defend Great Britain and Russia from Germany, which was crucial to the defeat of Germany during the war, but what many don't remember is that WWII very nearly bankrupted England. That's why they continued rationing food, fabrics and clothes, and petroleum for nearly a decade after the end of the war. Much of their GNP went to pay off their huge wartime debt. Great Britain could not afford to keep, and pay for, the war supplies that the United States had provided. And the USA, downsizing the military after the war, didn't want the material back.

I still cringe when I see film of F-4 Corsairs that survived the war in flying condition, rolled off the deck of English carriers into the sea so they could be written off as "war losses," a fiction that both the English and the American governments accepted. Otherwise England would have had to purchase them, at a time when they couldn't, or return them to the USA who didn't want them back. When I think how few Corsairs are in flying condition now . . .

Back to the picture though; even if one could get around the legal prohibitions both in the USA and England, does anyone here think they could take that entire stockpile and find enough working parts to make one operational firearm?

I can't imagine what good these junkpiles would be now. Certainly their scrap metal value exceeds any reason to continue stockpiling them.

Thrindle
12-21-2004, 09:21 PM
and the stupid limeys aren't even smart enough to recycle the metal. There's an international steel shortage, they should at least have the common sense to recycle it.

Divegeek
12-22-2004, 08:41 AM
Good point. Why aren't the enviro greens all over this?