Cherokee
04-28-2005, 05:55 PM
And wonder if you thought I handled it with enough facts:
He said:
I've never had occasion to use the word "pistol" and the word "safe" in the same sentence!
I said:
Any pistol is "safe". Its the idiot handling it thats not too safe at times. Anyways, this is not ment to be a firearms thread, please dont turn it into one.
He said:
So sorry I may have offended you with my post. Perhaps if you volunteered your services at a large children's hospital as I do you might understand my feelings better. Sometimes the "idiots" are merely the innocent offspring of other "idiots" -- but I guess you would know best.
Then I said:
I knew I was going to get goated into this.
First, you did not offend me. I was mearly correcting your wrong statement.
I would know best about idiots? I did not start this thread with a firearm debate in mind, But...since you seem to not know anything about this world, I'll be happy to inform you.
I, in fact, have volunteered my time a 2 large major hospitols. I know for a fact, your not going to find a childrens ward full of gun shot victims. Sure, it happens, but not like you would want others to think.
Fact:
According to the National Safety Council,
0.1% of all deaths for children in the U.S. between ages 0-14 are from firearms.
Suffocations 42.6%
Other 35.1%
Transportation (not automobiles) 6.0%
Poisoning 6.0%
Struck by (beatings, bludgeoning, accidentals) 5.3%
Natural/environmental 3.7%
Motor Vehicle 0.6%
Drowning 0.3%
Fire/hot substance 0.2%
Firearms 0.1%
Fact:
The Center for Disease Control. According to them, in 1999 kids 0-14 years died from the following causes in the U.S.:
Automobiles 2608
Drowning 1010
Pedestrian 675
Bicycle 201
Firearms 142
Whats this? I guess we should ban all Bicycles? After all, more died from them than a firearm.
Fact:
According to the National Center for Health Statistics National Vital Statistics Report,
Children are 12 times more likely to die in an automobile accident than from gun-related homicides or legal interventions (being shot by a cop, for example) if they are age 0-14.
Uhoh, ban all automobiles!!!!!!!!!
Fact:
According to Centers for Disease Control,
In 1996, there were only 21 accidental firearm deaths for children under age 15. Contrast this with 40 kids under age five that drowned in buckets and 80 that drowned in tubs (i.e. parents could have prevented six (6) times as many drowning deaths as they could firearm deaths).
Twice as many drown in a bucket of liquid than a firearm...BAN ALL BUCKETS!!!
Fact:
U.S. Department of Justice, National Institute of Justice, Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention, NCJ-143454, "Urban Delinquency and Substance Abuse," states,
Boys who own legal firearms have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use and are even less delinquent than non-owners of guns.
Fact:
According to Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention , “Kids and Guns”, 2000,
Eight times as many children die from non-gun violent acts than from gun crimes. This indicates that the problem is violence, not guns.
Fact: Fatal gun accidents for children ages 0-14 declined by almost 46% from 1975 to 1995, and 60% for all ages – all while the number of guns per capita increased by almost 40%.
Fact:
According to the FBI Uniform Crime Statistics,
82% of homicides to children age 13 and under were committed without a gun.
Next time, maybe you should think twice about starting a debate about something you know little about. But then again, I'm more than happy to school you on the truth.
Happy Camping.......
These were taken from Gun Facts 3.0. I hear there is a newer version, but I dont have it.
Do you think I got the point across?
He said:
I've never had occasion to use the word "pistol" and the word "safe" in the same sentence!
I said:
Any pistol is "safe". Its the idiot handling it thats not too safe at times. Anyways, this is not ment to be a firearms thread, please dont turn it into one.
He said:
So sorry I may have offended you with my post. Perhaps if you volunteered your services at a large children's hospital as I do you might understand my feelings better. Sometimes the "idiots" are merely the innocent offspring of other "idiots" -- but I guess you would know best.
Then I said:
I knew I was going to get goated into this.
First, you did not offend me. I was mearly correcting your wrong statement.
I would know best about idiots? I did not start this thread with a firearm debate in mind, But...since you seem to not know anything about this world, I'll be happy to inform you.
I, in fact, have volunteered my time a 2 large major hospitols. I know for a fact, your not going to find a childrens ward full of gun shot victims. Sure, it happens, but not like you would want others to think.
Fact:
According to the National Safety Council,
0.1% of all deaths for children in the U.S. between ages 0-14 are from firearms.
Suffocations 42.6%
Other 35.1%
Transportation (not automobiles) 6.0%
Poisoning 6.0%
Struck by (beatings, bludgeoning, accidentals) 5.3%
Natural/environmental 3.7%
Motor Vehicle 0.6%
Drowning 0.3%
Fire/hot substance 0.2%
Firearms 0.1%
Fact:
The Center for Disease Control. According to them, in 1999 kids 0-14 years died from the following causes in the U.S.:
Automobiles 2608
Drowning 1010
Pedestrian 675
Bicycle 201
Firearms 142
Whats this? I guess we should ban all Bicycles? After all, more died from them than a firearm.
Fact:
According to the National Center for Health Statistics National Vital Statistics Report,
Children are 12 times more likely to die in an automobile accident than from gun-related homicides or legal interventions (being shot by a cop, for example) if they are age 0-14.
Uhoh, ban all automobiles!!!!!!!!!
Fact:
According to Centers for Disease Control,
In 1996, there were only 21 accidental firearm deaths for children under age 15. Contrast this with 40 kids under age five that drowned in buckets and 80 that drowned in tubs (i.e. parents could have prevented six (6) times as many drowning deaths as they could firearm deaths).
Twice as many drown in a bucket of liquid than a firearm...BAN ALL BUCKETS!!!
Fact:
U.S. Department of Justice, National Institute of Justice, Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention, NCJ-143454, "Urban Delinquency and Substance Abuse," states,
Boys who own legal firearms have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use and are even less delinquent than non-owners of guns.
Fact:
According to Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention , “Kids and Guns”, 2000,
Eight times as many children die from non-gun violent acts than from gun crimes. This indicates that the problem is violence, not guns.
Fact: Fatal gun accidents for children ages 0-14 declined by almost 46% from 1975 to 1995, and 60% for all ages – all while the number of guns per capita increased by almost 40%.
Fact:
According to the FBI Uniform Crime Statistics,
82% of homicides to children age 13 and under were committed without a gun.
Next time, maybe you should think twice about starting a debate about something you know little about. But then again, I'm more than happy to school you on the truth.
Happy Camping.......
These were taken from Gun Facts 3.0. I hear there is a newer version, but I dont have it.
Do you think I got the point across?