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Garymac
03-11-2011, 08:56 AM
Just curious as to what is the most common 22lr rifle used at Appleseed in Michigan. I am thinking it is the 10/22 but I don't want to assume.

In regard to the 10/22 are people showing up with them modified or just stock? I am aware of the LTR but am thinking that they may be more common for people who have already shot an Appleseed and have learned what works the best.

What other types of common 22lrs are you seeing?

Been playing with 10/22s for thirty years. My personal 10/22s have extended mag releases and the auto bolt release mod done to them. I also put slings and usually scopes on them. I also have lots of mags so I am good to go. I am just curious what others use.

hemmingsenm
03-11-2011, 10:24 AM
I attended the Lapeer Appleseed last month and the most common rifle was 10/22s. None of those had the factory sights, some scopes and some after market peep sights. There was even 3 bolt action guns but they were at a disadvantage. Do not forget a good military type sling they help a lot.

dmo8361
03-11-2011, 10:34 AM
10/22....by far. I used a Marlin 795, there was a Marlin 60 there, 3 bolt guns, and I think everyone else had a 10/22

eta: One guy had an AR platform 22, I keep forgetting about him.

Trackman
03-11-2011, 12:40 PM
The AR Style of 22 that was there was a S&W M&P15-22 with a Scope.
It was Very Accurate but the Guy could not use a Sling with it.
Due to the Amount of Polymers used and how Tight you had to get the Sling he was Flexing the Gun and it was Not accurate in that situation.
Without the Sling I saw him shoot a 5 shot Nickel Sized Group in Practice.
You need a 210 or Better to Make Rifleman, He Scored a 231 Without a Sling, 250 is a Perfect Score. I used a Ruger 10/22 Deluxe Sporter with a Scope. The Only Modification, to My Gun, From Factory was the Automatic Bolt Release, Well worth it. I would also Reccomend an Extended Mag release as these are timed Events with Mag Changes. The Disadvantage to the 10/22 is if your Mags do Not Fall out when you release them. If they just Drop right out your Golden. Stock Ruger Sights Tend to not be Very Accurate for this Type of Shoot. Peep Sights are best if you go Iron Sights. My Old Eyes did absolutley Terrible with the Factory Ruger Sights and had to go to a Scope. You do Not want to use a Tube Magazine Gun. you would be at a Severe Disadvantage on the Reloads. We did have at least one tuber there and Accomadations were made. Wasn't me but I learned how to make a Speed Loader for a Tube Gun out of Straws and Duct Tape. Stick with a magazine Fed Rifle. Arrangements can be Made to get you a Loaner Rifle if you cannot get one in time. Get with "Superheat" on this Forum. He is the LCSC (Lapeer County Sportsmens Club) Venue Chair person for the Appleseed program at our Club.
We would Rather see you Shoot then to Stay at home on the Couch.

intheburbs
03-11-2011, 12:50 PM
^^^ Well-said, sir.

Most of the instructors bring loaner rifles, but we encourage everyone to "run what you brung." I usually bring at least two loaner rifles to shoots.

Yes, the 10/22 is the most popular 22 rifle at Appleseeds. But make sure you upgrade the sights. At a recent meeting of 30+ Appleseed instructors, no one had seen someone shoot Rifleman with the stock sights. Upgrade to Tech Sights or get a scope. If you get a scope, you'll probably have to build up your stock to get a good cheekweld.

dmo8361
03-11-2011, 04:30 PM
^^^ Well-said, sir.

If you get a scope, you'll probably have to build up your stock to get a good cheekweld.


And foam or pipe insulation with an ace bandage or vet wrap does this very well, and cheap.

Garymac
03-11-2011, 06:11 PM
As I mentioned in the original post my 10/22s are good to go. (I am bringing my 20 year old daughter and I have a couple backup rifles). I was just curious if people were actually using LTR type setups or just straight out of the box rifles.

What is the biggest problem people have with their rifles? Sighting them in? Jamming? manipulating the bolt release on stock gun? Again, just curious, mine are all good to go.

dmo8361
03-11-2011, 07:49 PM
What is the biggest problem people have with their rifles? Sighting them in? Jamming? manipulating the bolt release on stock gun? Again, just curious, mine are all good to go.

Un-learning bad habits. Just because you have been doing it that way all your life doesn't mean it's the right way to do it.

intheburbs
03-11-2011, 09:06 PM
As I mentioned in the original post my 10/22s are good to go. (I am bringing my 20 year old daughter and I have a couple backup rifles). I was just curious if people were actually using LTR type setups or just straight out of the box rifles.

What is the biggest problem people have with their rifles? Sighting them in? Jamming? manipulating the bolt release on stock gun? Again, just curious, mine are all good to go.

Most common "hardware" problems I've seen (in no particular order)

1) Comb height insufficient for a good, consistent cheekweld, especially when using a scope
2) Sling issues - no attachment point, wrong hardware, overly-complicated sling
3) Reliability issues - fte, ftf, etc - primarily with 22's, especially on Sunday
4) Scope/sights not zeroed or loose

DMO makes a good point, too. I'll call that the "software" side of the equation. This is the key - bring an open-minded, teachable attitude.

When shooters arrive on Saturday morning, most everyone's goal is to get a Rifleman patch. My goal as an Instructor is that by Sunday afternoon, everyone sees the Rifleman patch not as the end, but the beginning.

tom-n8ies
03-13-2011, 05:52 PM
Sounds interesting, Myself and grandson and nephew may be interested in attending.

Please tell me what targets are used and where I can download them and the course of fire or maybe a link with that information.

thanks

tom

intheburbs
03-13-2011, 08:02 PM
Sounds interesting, Myself and grandson and nephew may be interested in attending.

Please tell me what targets are used and where I can download them and the course of fire or maybe a link with that information.

thanks

tom

Outstanding! We love to see multiple generations on the firing line.

Click on the link in my signature for lots of information about Appleseed.

Here are links to a few of our targets:

50-foot QDAQT (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9833.0;attach=1270 7)

50-foot redcoat (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9833.0;attach=1255 8)

And our biggest enemies, the TV and the couch (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9833.0;attach=2625 0)

Feel free to PM or email me with any more questions.

appleseedmi at mi dot rr dot com

BullPup Adict
03-13-2011, 09:17 PM
I'm just curious, since its rimfire only will they allow .17cal rifles?

thanks
Bull

Superheat
03-14-2011, 06:18 AM
Yes, We will allow .17 RIMFIRE rifles. I'm not sure what the cost of .17 ammo is but you might want to consider it due to the round count being up to 500!

Garymac
03-14-2011, 11:30 AM
Sounds interesting, Myself and grandson and nephew may be interested in attending.

Please tell me what targets are used and where I can download them and the course of fire or maybe a link with that information.

thanks

tom


Tom,

I think the Lapeer shoot is full up. There is one in Fenton in April and a few more around the state later in the year.

Best bet to learn about it is to go to the Appleseed site at

http://www.appleseedinfo.org/

The calender of Michigan shoots is here.

http://appleseedinfo.org/search-states.php?filter=MI&statename=Michigan

Here is a link to some other downloadable practice targets I've found...

http://pdfcast.org/pdf/aqt-targets

Mouse08
03-14-2011, 07:18 PM
is sold out. However, there is a link at the bottom of the registration page you can click to get put on the waiting list. As of now there is one person on the waiting list. There is also the option (if you live close) to just show up at the range March 26 and hope there is room for you to join the firing line. No guarantee, which is why I suggest if you try this you live fairly close. A two or three hour drive that ends in disappointment is not fun.

Hope to see you at an Appleseed soon!