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JimSig
07-27-2011, 11:10 PM
I am so delighted with this gun that I decided to summarize my experience in this review. Here is the full story:

Recently I got the opportunity to jump on a very reasonably priced RAI 1911 GI model. The price was so right that I decided to take the chance and give it a try. The only 2 things that I hesitated about were: 1) the GI sights, and 2) the short beavertail on the grip safety, something that I experienced when I shot a friend's Colt and I had painful hammer bites. I did some research and got some feedbacks on a posted thread on MGO and I found out that I can add a drop in Wilson combat Grip Safety Beaver tail that would require a new commander style hammer. To avoid any incompatibility between the hammer and the sear, I ordered the commander-style hammer from the same gun manufacturer or importer (Armscorp). As for the drop-in GSBT I ordered it from Wilson combat along with a match trigger (with adjustable screw for after travel).


http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1542/ria1911before.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/ria1911before.jpg/)
Picture of gun as bought (all stock).

Well, after I purchased the gun, I took it for a range trip. The objective was to test it for accuracy and reliability. Well, it passed both with flying colors and 200 rds. of mixed ammo (Lead reloads, FMJ;s reloads, and 32 rds of defensive HP (16 rds. of Federad HP and 16 rds. of Winchester). No single failure or hickup. I know that the number of HP is relatively low for reliability, but nevertheless, they were shot at the end of the session where the gun was already dirty from my lead reloads.

As for accuracy, I was getting tight groups at 7 yards just like I do with my Springfield. The only thing is that the group was shifted about 1 in to the left of POA. (see picture below):

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5295/initialtarget.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/84/initialtarget.jpg/)
Note that the other holes in the plate are due to my laziness to change the target. I ran out of space on the target plate, so I was trying to shoot at 3 O'clock, 6 O'clock and 9 O'clock.

Went back home cleaned it, tapped the rear sight to the right just a tad and went to the range the next day: 100 rounds of Lead reloads and another 32 rounds of defensive HP ammo. Guess what, I am super pleased now with the accuracy and the reliability. No jams, No failures just smooth operation over 300 plus rounds in total so far, and the shots all landed in the tight group dead on the POA. (see picture below):

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8941/finaltarget.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/finaltarget.jpg/)


At this stage, I realized two things:

1) The GI sights are marvelous. As old and as milsurp they look, they do work for me. The small "v" notch in the rear and the tiny thin front blade forces you to focus and the results are outstanding. I come from a background of SIGS and Glocks, and I like beefy sights with either night sights or fiber optics, and I was really pleased to shoot with GI sights and re-live history. It is something that I enjoy doing but don't have the right words to describe it.
2) NO hammer bites. Yes, I didn't get any hammer bites through out the 300 plus rds. fired, and I was gripping the gun high enough for a 1911. The only thing that bothered me and still opting me to install the beavertail that I ordered, are the rough or rather sharp edges on the short beavertail. It seems that I have extra flesh in the web of my hand (between the index finger and my thumb – LOL, another politically correct way to say I am fat) and that short Beavertail just sticks in that area and the sharp edges do hurt a little. I can easily file the edges and smooth them but I will wait until I install the extended BT. If I decide to go back to the GI BT then I shall definitely file and smoothen these edges.

Now I already ordered the parts and I will wait and see how it goes from there. I will post more updates as I install the parts once they arrive in the mail.

Quick tips:
1. The parkerized finish is not the greatest, but I am OK with it.. It kind of give the gun a special workhorse personality. After few rds I noticed some brass marks on the slide (rear of the opening).. I wiped off with the brass cleaner solvent and it went away.
2. The grips are dull.. I might replace them with rubber grips. Haven't made up my mind yet on the color.
3. I am getting used to the trigger, and most probably I will keep it stock and return the ordered Wilson trigger.
4. I am now saving to buy the commander size :)

And yes.. The famous statement that you hear about RIA "they are the best for the money" it is so very well true.. it is not a Kimber or a Wilson but for sure it is very well executed.. and I just love shooting it.

pkuptruck
07-28-2011, 03:32 AM
I am so delighted with this gun ......

And yes.. The famous statement that you hear about RIA "they are the best for the money" it is so very well true.. it is not a Kimber or a Wilson but for sure it is very well executed.. and I just love shooting it.


alot of folks are of the mindset... "if it aint a [fill in the name of a high end maker]... then it aint worth getting...

..and they DO make nicely polished and pretty looking 1911...no doubt...

but for an everyday shooter... you really cant beat an RIA... dependable,
accurate... you know... a great personality...just not "miss USA" in the looks department..:banana:

glad you like it...

karcent
07-28-2011, 07:03 AM
Those guns are an outstanding value!

BadWeb
07-28-2011, 09:12 AM
Who stocks RIA pistols in the Tri County area? (SE Michigan)
Thanks in advance.

Skidog
07-28-2011, 09:19 AM
Who stocks RIA pistols in the Tri County area? (SE Michigan)
Thanks in advance.
Peters Gun shop in Roseville had a few.

JimSig
07-28-2011, 09:37 AM
Who stocks RIA pistols in the Tri County area? (SE Michigan)
Thanks in advance.

I bought mine from another individual. I looked around at Topguns, SnP GUns and ammo, Shooter Services.. None had it in stock but they were willing to order it and it supposedly comes in a few days.

If you want to check it out for the feeal and look, SnP Guns and ammo (on Eureka) has one in 38 Super.. This should give you an idea on the finish and fit if you want to check it out.

turbolag23
07-28-2011, 09:46 AM
nice review. i've been looking for a cheaper way to enter the world of 1911's but dont see RIA's at any local stores.

karcent
07-28-2011, 10:13 AM
Who stocks RIA pistols in the Tri County area? (SE Michigan)
Thanks in advance.

I do! I currently have a couple of 1911-A1 FS in stock.

aaron
07-28-2011, 11:03 AM
I saw one at Great Lakes Gunshop in Lapeer when I was in there about a month ago.

XDM 40 cal
07-29-2011, 10:11 PM
Who stocks RIA pistols in the Tri County area? (SE Michigan)
Thanks in advance.

Action impact has or had them.. last time i check they were around 550 range..

XDM 40 cal
07-29-2011, 10:13 PM
Nice 1911 Jim...

:biggrin:

JimSig
07-29-2011, 10:27 PM
Nice 1911 Jim...

:biggrin:

thanks my friend. I got the trigger and the drop in grip safety beavertail from Wilson Combat today. I already installed the trigger and tuned it using the adjustment screw.. It is so crisp and clean.. I tried the safety beaver tail and it fits nicely however, I can not install it yet since I haven't received the commander hammer from Advanced Tactical yet.. Can't wait to put all the add ons and shoot it with the nice trigger again. i was so ignorant about 1911 until I took mine apart and learned how it works.. it is a genuine 100 yrs old design.. It is as simple as Glocks if not simpler. I guess everyday we learn new stuff..

aaron
07-29-2011, 11:50 PM
I stopped in at Great Lakes today in Lapeer and they have a 5" GI in stock.

XDM 40 cal
07-30-2011, 08:27 AM
thanks my friend. I got the trigger and the drop in grip safety beavertail from Wilson Combat today. I already installed the trigger and tuned it using the adjustment screw.. It is so crisp and clean.. I tried the safety beaver tail and it fits nicely however, I can not install it yet since I haven't received the commander hammer from Advanced Tactical yet.. Can't wait to put all the add ons and shoot it with the nice trigger again. i was so ignorant about 1911 until I took mine apart and learned how it works.. it is a genuine 100 yrs old design.. It is as simple as Glocks if not simpler. I guess everyday we learn new stuff..

Yes it is....

When you get it up and ready for shooting, let me know, will shoot 45 at TG ..???

JimSig
07-30-2011, 05:26 PM
Well.. Here is an upddate with the following added parts:

1) Wilson Combat Match trigger
2) Drop in Grip safety with extended Beavertail
3) Skeleton (commander style) Hammer

The trigger bar needed minor fitting (jus a gentle squeeze), while the hammer and the extended dropin GSBT were exactly drop-in parts.. Nothing was needed. I tested the gun and took a close look at the parts as they interacted and the fit was perfect. The gun functions 100% as supposed to and I am a happy camper.. Finally I learned how the 1911's function and I am a huge fan now.

Here is the "Before" Picture:

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1542/ria1911before.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/ria1911before.jpg/)

And here are the "AFTER" pictures:

Dressed in SA wood grips:

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/7176/rai1911aftsp1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/rai1911aftsp1.jpg/)



Dressed in Hogue rubber grips:

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/269/rai1911afthg1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/rai1911afthg1.jpg/)

Tyler
07-30-2011, 06:28 PM
Well.. Here is an upddate with the following added parts:

1) Wilson Combat Match trigger
2) Drop in Grip safety with extended Beavertail
3) Skeleton (commander style) Hammer

The trigger bar needed minor fitting (jus a gentle squeeze), while the hammer and the extended dropin GSBT were exactly drop-in parts.. Nothing was needed. I tested the gun and took a close look at the parts as they interacted and the fit was perfect. The gun functions 100% as supposed to and I am a happy camper.. Finally I learned how the 1911's function and I am a huge fan now.

Here is the "Before" Picture:

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1542/ria1911before.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/ria1911before.jpg/)

And here are the "AFTER" pictures:

Dressed in SA wood grips:

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/7176/rai1911aftsp1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/rai1911aftsp1.jpg/)



Dressed in Hogue rubber grips:

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/269/rai1911afthg1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/rai1911afthg1.jpg/)


Definitely looks better with the wood rather than hogue grips!

JimSig
07-30-2011, 06:50 PM
Definitely looks better with the wood rather than hogue grips!

but the houghue grips feel nice, they allow for a tight grip hols of the gun.. It is more for functionality than looks sometimes ;)

XDM 40 cal
07-30-2011, 06:59 PM
but the houghue grips feel nice, they allow for a tight grip holds of the gun.. It is more for functionality than looks sometimes ;)

Well if its function is needed...

http://vzgrips.com/gun-grips/1911-pistol-grips-1/operators-2/operators-black-g10
http://vzgrips.com/img/product/Operators_Black__4a7b4519c9126.jpg

or this.
http://vzgrips.com/img/Grip%20Pics/Gunner%20Grips/Gunn-blk-2_L.jpg
http://vzgrips.com/gun-grips/1911-pistol-grips-1/gunner-grips/gunner-grips-black-g10

OH, Really nice work...

michiganfan
07-31-2011, 06:14 AM
Very nice review. Well done.

Tyler
07-31-2011, 11:02 AM
I couldn't STAND the hogue wrap around grips myself. It destroyed the nice thin grip of a 1911. I did, however like the hogue grip panels without the finger grooves in the front that I had. The best grips I ever had were VZ's though.

http://vzgrips.com/gun-grips/1911-pistol-grips-1/aliens-2/alien-desert-sand-g10 I had those ones.

JimSig
07-31-2011, 12:14 PM
I couldn't STAND the hogue wrap around grips myself. It destroyed the nice thin grip of a 1911. I did, however like the hogue grip panels without the finger grooves in the front that I had. The best grips I ever had were VZ's though.

http://vzgrips.com/gun-grips/1911-pistol-grips-1/aliens-2/alien-desert-sand-g10 I had those ones.

The VZ's are nice grips but way outside my price range.. thanks for the link.

Tyler
07-31-2011, 05:28 PM
The VZ's are nice grips but way outside my price range.. thanks for the link.


Understandable for sure! They are a bit pricey. Have fun shooting!

XDM 40 cal
07-31-2011, 07:21 PM
The VZ's are nice grips but way outside my price range.. thanks for the link.

How about this..
http://cgi.ebay.com/RAPTOR-Grips-Full-1911-Black-Original-SkinGripz-/110703587086?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c672af0e

This,
http://cgi.ebay.com/TAC-II-Grips-1911-FULL-SZ-Original-SkinGripz-/110673453513?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c4a6e1c9

http://cgi.ebay.com/Operator-Grips-1911-FULL-SZ-Original-SkinGripz-/110632064818?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c22f5732

Cheaper than VZ...

JimSig
07-31-2011, 07:51 PM
How about this..
http://cgi.ebay.com/RAPTOR-Grips-Full-1911-Black-Original-SkinGripz-/110703587086?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c672af0e

This,
http://cgi.ebay.com/TAC-II-Grips-1911-FULL-SZ-Original-SkinGripz-/110673453513?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c4a6e1c9

http://cgi.ebay.com/Operator-Grips-1911-FULL-SZ-Original-SkinGripz-/110632064818?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c22f5732

Cheaper than VZ...


These are nice looking.. but I don't know how they feel.. I'll just keep the current grips on it for now untill I know/decide what I really want in grips.

Thanks for the suggestions.

dartsinsa
08-13-2011, 06:35 PM
The Hogue rubber grip panels are less than 20 bucks, I think I paid about 16 for a set. I did screw up though, they looked black in the store but were green when I got home. blech
Replaced with the black ones, which I think look much nicer.

MountainDreamer
08-14-2011, 09:11 PM
Great review. I like the Hogue grips as well. They pull the web of your hand up nice and tight to the beavertail. The rubber maybe isn't as nice for carry, but for target they're great!

Oh, sounds like your enjoyin the 1911 shootin; something about the feel of it, the way it comes up to aquire target and the trigger that kindof makes it an extension of your mind. Maybe just in my mind, Ha!

Yance
08-25-2011, 04:30 PM
Ive heard and read plenty of good things about the RIA 1911s I dont think you could go wrong with any of their 1911's including the GI. A couple people I know have them and absolutely love them.

redneckwino
08-29-2011, 03:19 AM
I love my RIA. After polishing the slide and trigger, it really is a pleasure to shoot. I did not even try the wood grips. Went with the hogue right off the bat. Also changed the sights for the Colt 3 dot mil-spec. And we do have them in stock in Traverse City at Shooters.
http://i767.photobucket.com/albums/xx318/musket_0/0810111628.jpg