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dreidel13
09-03-2011, 11:50 AM
With the new AG opinion on suppressors allowing their ownership and use, my question is "What firearm will you silence first?"

I currently have no threded barrels but am new gun shopping so I'm excited to see what everyone says!!

Gloofy
09-03-2011, 12:25 PM
.45 pistols but I'm concerned about the sight heights.

jmanz6
09-03-2011, 12:35 PM
I will do my P22. Nothing like going plinking in silence! Gotta save my pennies to get the suppressor plus the stamp though. Wouldn't mind doing my SR9c also but I don't think there are any threaded barrels for it available.

stainless1911
09-03-2011, 01:37 PM
I have a P-22, and will silence that first, for economic reasons.

dougwg
09-03-2011, 01:47 PM
Where are you going to get the money for the $400-$500 suppressor and the $200 for the tax stamp or the $13 for the passport photo and $10 for the finger print card or the $1.20 for the stamps to send in the application for that matter?

you getting a suppressor......we'll see pigs fly first IMO

stainless1911
09-03-2011, 01:51 PM
You'd be surprised.

I have bought 4 of my guns on layaway. 3 of them were new.

rjrivero
09-03-2011, 01:52 PM
.45 pistols but I'm concerned about the sight heights.
Don't worry. It's not hard to learn to "sight through" the suppressor to the target.

This is a Glock 35 with 9mm Conversion barrel. Shooting steel plates at 35 feet. There was ONE supersonic round that made it in my magazine. Sights are still factory standard height and do not clear the can. It really isn't hard to put the dot on the center of a target, even with the can in front.

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dougwg
09-03-2011, 01:52 PM
My questions stands....

Where will you get the money?

M5NSX
09-03-2011, 01:56 PM
First my MP5 followed by my Tac Ops Xray-51.

rjrivero
09-03-2011, 01:56 PM
My questions stands....

Where will you get the money?
If it's something you want, you just save for it. Same as any discretionary income item. How do folks buy a new gun at all? How do they afford a motorcycle? How do you afford a vacation? You budget, save, and make it happen.

dougwg
09-03-2011, 02:00 PM
If it's something you want, you just save for it. Same as any discretionary income item. How do folks buy a new gun at all? How do they afford a motorcycle? How do you afford a vacation? You budget, save, and make it happen.
Wrong, that's how "normal productive members of society" do it.

Welfare rats on the other hand do things a bit differently, not saying anyone is a welfare rat though.

mini4m3
09-03-2011, 02:07 PM
Three things straight up...

M10 (MAC)
AR15(s)
and some secret items :)

rjrivero
09-03-2011, 02:08 PM
Wrong, that's how "normal productive members of society" do it.

Welfare rats on the other hand do things a bit differently, not saying anyone is a welfare rat though.
My apologies. I think I may have wandered into the middle of something here. Ignore my ignorance.

shadow120
09-03-2011, 02:10 PM
ruger MKii

stainless1911
09-03-2011, 02:10 PM
Popcans, change, 5$ here, 20$ there.

stainless1911
09-03-2011, 02:12 PM
My apologies. I think I may have wandered into the middle of something here. Ignore my ignorance.

I have my own pet troll, don't worry about it.

jmanz6
09-03-2011, 02:12 PM
Where are you going to get the money for the $400-$500 suppressor and the $200 for the tax stamp or the $13 for the passport photo and $10 for the finger print card or the $1.20 for the stamps to send in the application for that matter?

you getting a suppressor......we'll see pigs fly first IMO


Who says I don't have the money? My wife gets pissed off at me when I ask her for $20 for gas but then turn around and buy a new gun/motorcycle/car/etc. She asks where I got the money and I simply reply "I found some". Learned that from my dad. When he died we found $1000 in his dresser drawer all in $1 bills.

The concept is this; NEVER spend a dollar. If you have $1 bills in your wallet, take them out. Put them away and forget about them. Do this everytime you get singles as change for a cash purchase. In 6 months, count your cash and you will be suprised how much you have. Not to mention, you have enough for a really fun night out at the strip club!

ILoveMyGlock
09-03-2011, 02:21 PM
I have my own pet troll, don't worry about it.



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Wolvee
09-03-2011, 02:28 PM
What an idiot.


Anyway. I know I'm buying one this year and I'm hoping on the good graces of a group buy to make it so affordable that I'll have to buy two, lol. :mrgreen:

Not I really want a suppressed .45 but I don't see it happening until after the new year with so many other things I want right now. I will probably be getting one for my P226.

rjrivero
09-03-2011, 02:34 PM
What an idiot.


Anyway. I know I'm buying one this year and I'm hoping on the good graces of a group buy to make it so affordable that I'll have to buy two, lol. :mrgreen:

Not I really want a suppressed .45 but I don't see it happening until after the new year with so many other things I want right now. I will probably be getting one for my P226.

Consider getting a .45 ACP suppressor and using it on the 9mm. There are some videos of the Silencerco Osprey .45 being used on 9mm. The first round pop is a bit louder, but overall, it does a pretty good job.

maustin195
09-03-2011, 02:48 PM
Consider getting a .45 ACP suppressor and using it on the 9mm. There are some videos of the Silencerco Osprey .45 being used on 9mm. The first round pop is a bit louder, but overall, it does a pretty good job.

That was my thought also. I have a selection of firearms that the Osprey .45 could be used on with their adapters.

7.62 Nato
09-03-2011, 03:20 PM
Consider getting a .45 ACP suppressor and using it on the 9mm. There are some videos of the Silencerco Osprey .45 being used on 9mm. The first round pop is a bit louder, but overall, it does a pretty good job.
Why would it be quieter after the first shot ? What's changed ?

Wolvee
09-03-2011, 03:21 PM
Why would it be quieter after the first shot ? What's changed ?

The amount of gas taking up space in the tube.

rjrivero
09-03-2011, 07:21 PM
Why would it be quieter after the first shot ? What's changed ?
The amount of gas taking up space in the tube.
More specifically, the amount of oxygen in the air in the suppressor. The oxygen in the suppressor will allow the hot gasses to continue to expand and burn on the first shot. After that, the residual gas is void of oxygen replaced by the gasses left from the previous shot. This results in lower sound levels.

HemiChallenger
09-04-2011, 01:47 AM
Back on topic, If I get a supressor it will be for a .22. I use the .22 already for pest control with "sub sonic" rounds. If a supressor makes things that much more quiet so I dont wake the neighbors (I dont already) I'm all for it. But to be honest the old slow .45ACP would be the best to supress or 9x19 with heavy bullets.

On a side note can you hunt with a supressor?

stainless1911
09-04-2011, 01:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7chrgtPYDY

gjgalligan
09-06-2011, 06:01 PM
Using these numbers:

$400-$500 suppressor and the $200 for the tax stamp or the $13 for the passport photo and $10 for the finger print card or the $1.20 for the stamps to send in the application

I don't see any chance of me bothering to get one.

rjrivero
09-06-2011, 06:10 PM
Using these numbers:

$400-$500 suppressor and the $200 for the tax stamp or the $13 for the passport photo and $10 for the finger print card or the $1.20 for the stamps to send in the application

I don't see any chance of me bothering to get one.
There will be A LOT Of folks who feel the same way, once they do the math. However, isn't it NICE to have the CHOICE? ;-)

stainless1911
09-06-2011, 08:13 PM
It is. I cant afford it, but I plan on getting one anyhow.

TAC
09-06-2011, 09:26 PM
The only down side to suppressors is that not everyone on the range will have one. So you'll still have to wear ear protection, unless you're shooting alone.

scot623
09-06-2011, 09:28 PM
I always thought our tax dollars going to the poor were to feed, clothe and house them...seems it buys them silencers too.

Phelptwan
09-07-2011, 08:00 AM
I always thought our tax dollars going to the poor were to feed, clothe and house them...seems it buys them silencers too.

Well...in reality, it's all just to buy their silence, so I guess we're still on track.

My first suppressor will be an Osprey .45.

Groo
09-07-2011, 08:31 AM
I don't plan on sinking that cash into any of my current guns. I'd probably silence either a Ruger Charger or an AR pistol, in part because of the recent ATF clarification of converting pistols to rifles and back. but it'll all have to wait till my income steps it up some.

devin21
09-07-2011, 10:16 AM
Remington 700p 308 is first on my list

Dansjeep2000
09-07-2011, 10:42 AM
My First will be a SilencerCo Sparrow SS, maybe add a 5.56 can to that if I can talk the wife into it.

stainless1911
09-07-2011, 10:52 AM
Like I said before, I never see the tax dollars. They dont give you enough to even be poor.

jmanz6
09-07-2011, 10:55 AM
I'm thinking I may look into a Thompson Machine Isis or Poseidon for my Ruger SR9c that can also be used on my P22. I saw some demo vids of both those supressors and I was impressed. 2 guns, 1 can, what's not to like?

stainless1911
09-07-2011, 10:58 AM
Im just going to make baffles for this

http://www.tacticalinc.com/-p-343.html


Way cheaper.

jmanz6
09-07-2011, 11:35 AM
Still gonna cost you $200 for the paperwork... Plus the machining/fabricating. Unless you own a mill or are good friends with someone to do it for you (not legal I would think) then you would be cheaper to just buy a built can.

stainless1911
09-07-2011, 02:25 PM
250$ is better than 500 plus the 200$ tax. For that money, I can figure out how to make a baffle.

Might be able to pay someone to make it for me at those rates.

jmanz6
09-07-2011, 02:30 PM
$250 is the very low end of what it would cost to have it done for you. I know I wouldn't do it for that. Plus, you don't know how well it will work until you get it and try it. Then, if it doesn't work as well as you would like, you have to pay themto do it again. Cheaper to buy a can from someone who has already done the math. Why reinvent the wheel? It's already round...

stainless1911
09-07-2011, 02:32 PM
Partly for the experience in doing it. I like to tinker.

7.62 Nato
09-12-2011, 09:38 PM
More specifically, the amount of oxygen in the air in the suppressor. The oxygen in the suppressor will allow the hot gasses to continue to expand and burn on the first shot. After that, the residual gas is void of oxygen replaced by the gasses left from the previous shot. This results in lower sound levels.
That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. Sorry for the late reply. This was when there were server errors and I just came back to it.

rjrivero
09-12-2011, 10:36 PM
That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. Sorry for the late reply. This was when there were server errors and I just came back to it.
Most welcome. Glad to help. Nice to see folks excited about suppressors.

7.62 Nato
09-12-2011, 11:03 PM
Most welcome. Glad to help. Nice to see folks excited about suppressors.
Been interested for a long time but as you know it's been taboo. Always liked to find out how things worked or why they didn't. And then there's shooting them too. :woohoo1:

mechredd
09-12-2011, 11:31 PM
I would silence my my P22 first. All P22's come with a threaded barrel and adapters to make them 1/2x28 can be had for under $30. Silenced plinkers are fun and cheap.