Where are you in the process?

[Dansjeep2000]

Trying to gauge how long it takes to get our suppressors.


Dont worry your names won't show.

[RECON762WT]

I figure 6-8 months from the time I said "place the order" till the time it is screwed on the barrel.

[HoldHard]

Some timelines are shown on www.NFAtracker.com (http://www.nfatracker.com/)

HH

[mdmaclean]

The Monday ofter the AG's Announcement my buddy and I called and ordered two OutbackII's from Sheridian Arms in Saginaw.

They Took our Credit Cards, about two weeks later we both received Receipts for the cans.You have to buy the supressors first so they can get the serial numbers off them to fill in Fill in Form 4

October 27,2011 I received the Form 4 , partially filled out, a fingerprint card for the NFA, a request for a check for $200 made out to BAFT&E, and a request for 2 passport quality photo's.

Today 10-28-11,Went to CVS, got Photo's($10.00), Went to Livingston County Sheriff got Fingerprints($15.00) and Chief Law Enforcement Officer(CLEO)'s signature. All was completed and dropped off at the Howell post office sent First Class before 11:00am, so it should have gone out today.

My buddy has not received the Forms yet, this may be do to recent change of address.
I have wasted no time in getting this turned around, it just happened to be my day off today and I had time to get it all done.
Now it is a wait and see, Sheridian says expect April 2012 before the Government gets this turned around.

Will Advise

[donald150]

You forgot a choice...........Have not even started.:silly:

[Dansjeep2000]

You forgot a choice...........Have not even started.:silly:
Sorry

[HoldHard]

The day after the AG opinion came out, I got online and ordered the Osprey from a dealer in Ohio. It was the last one available as others in Michigan were doing the same thing. Transferred it to a NFA dealer here in Michigan. Sent in the paperwork on October 7th. The check was cashed on October 12th and current status is "pending" as of October 21st.

Christina Farris will be handling the NFA paperwork for Michigan per this (http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2011/06/061711-firearms-nfa-supplemental-information-geographic-distribution-of-nfa-applications-for-processing-by-atf.html) letter from the ATF. Her average turn-around time is 137 days per NFATracker.com (http://www.nfatracker.com) which is the slowest of the ten examiners.

If the stars align and the paperwork passes muster, it looks like Valentines Day or so before the tax stamp arrives.

The photo was taken at my dealer.... yes it shoots very nice and the CTC laser clears the side of the can. :-D

HH

http://www.1130cc.com/gallery/files/1/1/6/6/howell-20111030-00029.jpg

[RevDerb]

Trying to gauge how long it takes to get our suppressors.


Dont worry your names won't show.
Why would you think that anyone would have to worry about their names being revealed while purchasing a legal product? :confused:

[rjrivero]

The day after the AG opinion came out, I got online and ordered the Osprey from a dealer in Ohio. It was the last one available as others in Michigan were doing the same thing. Transferred it to a NFA dealer here in Michigan. Sent in the paperwork on October 7th. The check was cashed on October 12th and current status is "pending" as of October 21st.

Christina Farris will be handling the NFA paperwork for Michigan per this (http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2011/06/061711-firearms-nfa-supplemental-information-geographic-distribution-of-nfa-applications-for-processing-by-atf.html) letter from the ATF. Her average turn-around time is 137 days per NFATracker.com (http://www.nfatracker.com) which is the slowest of the ten examiners.

If the stars align and the paperwork passes muster, it looks like Valentines Day or so before the tax stamp arrives.

The photo was taken at my dealer.... yes it shoots very nice and the CTC laser clears the side of the can. :-D

HH

http://www.1130cc.com/gallery/files/1/1/6/6/howell-20111030-00029.jpg
Looks good, HoldHard. Glad you got that barrel fitted and were able to play with it. I guess the Zombie Shoot was called due to rain??

[jafacanyan]

Well I’m defiantly interested in a silencer but how do you get the ball rolling? I would love to start applying for a license.
If I’m not a the right area for my post please lead me to the right section thank you!!!!

[rjrivero]

Well I’m defiantly interested in a silencer but how do you get the ball rolling? I would love to start applying for a license.
If I’m not a the right area for my post please lead me to the right section thank you!!!!
Essentially, you just find a Class III dealer who has what you want. Plunk down your money, and fill out a pair of form 4's (ATF Form 5320.4).

See this post (http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=147121) on how I fill out my Form 4's. It may help you along.

[jafacanyan]

thank you for the info rjrivero, that was helpful.... I also heard something some where on MGO doing a group purchase of silencers, did anyone hear about this?

[rjrivero]

thank you for the info rjrivero, that was helpful.... I also heard something some where on MGO doing a group purchase of silencers, did anyone hear about this?
Yeah. Chewy at GB2 is putting it on. Let me dig that up for you too......LINK HERE (http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=147122&highlight=silencer+group).

[CallmeDave]

I got to hold my suppressor today when I picked up my paperwork. Made me think how silly all this money time and paperwork is to get this little steel can......

[jafacanyan]

thank you....

[Dansjeep2000]

Why would you think that anyone would have to worry about their names being revealed while purchasing a legal product? :confused:
Some people don't like others knowing what they have.



oh and My paperwork is finally in the mail to the ATF, now the real wait begins.

[Dansjeep2000]

ATF cashed my check today, so at least I know they are working on it.

[rickettsj]

where is the "saving up to buy one" option?? i have a m11 in .380 and a witness protection remington 870 AOW, i need to add the silencer to the pile.

[mmissile]

Mailing everything in tomorrow.:hick:

[HK USP]

Osprey is slower than molasses in the winter... apparently there was a huge surge in demand due to the AG opinion here in MI, 6 months later they still have not shipped one single unit to my dealer. So since you did not have a "waiting for dealer to actually get one" that is my catagory....

[Bill Poynter]

Don't feel bad, being one of the guys that got this started, i started in 2005. Got denied, and had my denied form 4 sent by my attorney to the AG. That ead thae start of a long an expensive process to get the AG to issue an opinion. A small group of us worked long and hard to get this through. Patience!

[thatguy]

Osprey is slower than molasses in the winter... apparently there was a huge surge in demand due to the AG opinion here in MI, 6 months later they still have not shipped one single unit to my dealer. So since you did not have a "waiting for dealer to actually get one" that is my catagory....
That would be "Waiting for MFG to Dealer Transfer" 1st choice......oh and its SilencerCo not Osprey, Osprey is a model not the MFG.

[HK USP]

That would be "Waiting for MFG to Dealer Transfer" 1st choice......oh and its SilencerCo not Osprey, Osprey is a model not the MFG.
Don't care what you call them they are still slower than Molasses in winter. If i had the design I could go out in the shop and build one (yeah I know tax stamp, license to build) in an afternoon....

[rjrivero]

Don't care what you call them they are still slower than Molasses in winter. If i had the design I could go out in the shop and build one (yeah I know tax stamp, license to build) in an afternoon....

Here you go......Fire up the mill!!

[HK USP]

need the rest of the picture showing the baffle system... yours is out of frame.

[rjrivero]

need the rest of the picture showing the baffle system... yours is out of frame.
Slide the frame over. The baffle is the monocore on the right of the assymentric tube.

Edit: Cropped and attached. No more excuses Mr. HK USP.....:lol:

[HK USP]

My tablet is not very friendly that way so thanks for the crop, I will only need a slight modification to keep away from the patent infringement, and find and fill out the license to manifacture....

[HoldHard]

Nice work RJ... How tough was it to put back together?

HH

[rjrivero]

Nice work RJ... How tough was it to put back together?

HH
This is YOUR can, the one at Cheely's.......





















I kid.....Just found the picture on the web.

[HK USP]

Not all of them are designed to be stripped down, many manufactures state some kind of life cycle in the 100 + K area but I often wonder about unfired powder and possible build up in the chambers, and what could possibly happen when you burn dirty ammo that spits a lot of excess....

[RECON762WT]

Where are you in the process?
Procrastinating over setting up a trust and sending in the paperwork...Hoping to get that done over the holidays.

[mdmaclean]

Sent the Form 4 October 28th-

Sheridan originally told me not to think about it until April, looks like then knew what they where talking about as far as wait estimates. The weather is not helping me be patient.

[Sheridanarmsllc]

We've had a steady stream of paperwork since before Sept 2nd for AOW's and machine guns, at that time transfers were going 4-5 months, by October/November it got strectched out to 6 months. I expect times to get better once we can clear through the surge, but there is a general buying frenzy where our suppressor manufacturers are having trouble keeping up.

We've opend our our lines of distribution to further improve the availability of suppressors through us and enhance our stock suppressors, but I'm buying all a lot more than I've sold because it is taking much longer for me to get them compared to my restock orders in September/October were taking. I spoke to AAC friday, they said they are manufacturing/shipping 100-200 per day and still not keeping up and are seriously backordered. Same deal with Gemtech when I spoke to them but some items are stocked without a problem.

I posted last week, I've already seen two suppressor approved form 4's to my customers, so they are moving and there appears to be no other shananigans to hold them up.

Dont hesitate to give the shop a call as I can help with details on specific model numbers that will be tough to get versus other model numbers that are more available. Even if your from outside of Saginaw, dont forget I can just mail the paperwork if your local dealer is out of stock.

If you sign up on our email list at our website, www.sheridanarms.com I can also provide more timely updates as to what's going on in the class 3 world and events for those who want to stay closer in touch with our Sheridan Arms events. All our full auto shoots now have suppressors available to help those get a better feel before they buy something by hearing (or NOT!) one first.

Hope this helps

Phil

[mmissile]

I have no idea....guess it won't help to care/worry about it.:roll:

[mdmaclean]

Got the call yesterday, by my calculations that makes about 6 and one half months (6 months -16 days to be exact) from the day I sent in the Form 4.

This includes however long it took after I got a reject letter, saying I missed a square.

Not happy with the turn around, but it is exactly what the guys at Sheridian told me it would be.

Just in time for chipmunk season.

[HK USP]

Got the call yesterday, by my calculations that makes about 6 and one half months (6 months -16 days to be exact) from the day I sent in the Form 4.

This includes however long it took after I got a reject letter, saying I missed a square.

Not happy with the turn around, but it is exactly what the guys at Sheridian told me it would be.

Just in time for chipmunk season.


My check cleared on April 17th so by that estimate that would put mine up about sometime in October...

[detacbob]

Went pending 24 January 2012.

This sucks.

[Nic]

Form 4 (trust) was approved May 17th. Roughly 154 days from the time they received my packet.

Submitted: 12/12/11
Received: 12/15/11
Checked cashed: 12/19/11
Pending: ???
Kicked back: Sometime around May 1st (Trust name on F4 didn't exactly match trust name on trust document. Fixed and sent back in within a few days).
Approved: 05/17/12

[PorkChopsMmm]

Went pending Feb 7th. Called the NFA today to check status and make sure it wasn't kicked back for any reason. Still processing and the clerk told me I should expect approval in August. Reeks. I was expecting July. :-x

[freakinhugebear]

My check just cleared a couple weeks ago for a griffin arms spartan2 556 can. The wait begins, if Im lucky I might have my can for Christmas!

[Toxie]

Paid in full for sparrow in November, can still hasnt made it to the dealer yet.


Thanks GB2.

[GLOCKME]

Paid in full for sparrow in November, can still hasnt made it to the dealer yet.


Thanks GB2.

Someone should be doing some checking for you!!!
Did the dealer order from "wholesaler",or from an individual?

[Sheridanarmsllc]

I have sparrows in stock...

Lots of other suppressors in stock too...

Phil

[Toxie]

Someone should be doing some checking for you!!!
Did the dealer order from "wholesaler",or from an individual?
Search for my post in general for the whole saga.

Just poor, poor CS.

[rjrivero]

Search for my post in general for the whole saga.

Just poor, poor CS.
So where are you ordering your suppressor from now?

[PorkChopsMmm]

Wow, the wait is killing me. Went pending Feb 7th and still no approval. I called the NFA yesterday and with some surprise in the woman's voice she said "Wow, should be any day now" since I am over the 6 month mark. Bah! I know, I know, patience is a virtue.

[Toxie]

So where are you ordering your suppressor from now?
From Ed Pireh on here, answers the phone and PM's quickly, and gave me a (better) deal on the sparrow (He's got me a 7.62 phantom already). I've also gotten a can from Jmacken and can recommend both guys.

[PorkChopsMmm]

Just called the NFA and checked on my trust form 4. APPROVED TODAY!!!!!!!

Waiting on the call/email/PM from GB2 to go pick up my suppressor. :bdaysmile:

[jts_01]

Just called the NFA and checked on my trust form 4. APPROVED TODAY!!!!!!!

Waiting on the call/email/PM from GB2 to go pick up my suppressor. :bdaysmile:

Congratz! When did you go pending?

[PorkChopsMmm]

Congratz! When did you go pending?

February seventh, this wait has been torture.

[PorkChopsMmm]

Well, she shoots like a dream. Kevin, Tom, and Grant at GB2 were very patient and put in extra effort to get me the suppressor. Thanks guys.

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/4544/img20120804202441.jpg

[sonicmatter]

My Form 4 got kicked back. CLEO signature not legible enough. Oh well, I've waited this long so a few more weeks isn't going to kill me, LOL.

[sonicmatter]

Received my kicked back Form 4 today and I took it back to the Gratiot Co. Sheriff's office. Got it signed "legibly" by the Sheriff along with his printed name and back in the mail today. Hopefully it wont be much longer.

[Tango125INF11b]

Sent in my paperwork last Tuesday. Ugggggh. Time to wait!

[SSG3K]

Done today 5.5 months cant wait untill saturday to get it

rich

[Blag]

Paperwork went pending Aug 10.. hopefully have it December.

[GLOCKME]

Paperwork went pending Aug 10.. hopefully have it December.

When did you send your paperwork in?

[Blag]

When did you send your paperwork in?


Sent in on July 18, check was cashed on Jul 25, went pending on August 10.

[undertone]

I was on the phone with the ATF NFA in west Virginia, she said that it is taking around 3-4 months. They hired extra help and they are able to speed through the applications faster. Good luck

[GLOCKME]

I was on the phone with the ATF NFA in west Virginia, she said that it is taking around 3-4 months. They hired extra help and they are able to speed through the applications faster. Good luck

3-4 months.So they knocked the estimate down from 5-6 months.
That must mean by my calculations that I should be getting mine about 2 months ago!! ;)

[Yooper55]

3-4 months.So they knocked the estimate down from 5-6 months.
That must mean by my calculations that I should be getting mine about 2 months ago!! ;)
And mine should be coming in the next 5 days, yea

[Tango125INF11b]

Sent paperwork and check July 30th. Went pending August 23rd. Woot!

[Phelptwan]

My check was cashed April 24th...

[sonicmatter]

Received an email from my dealer this morning. My Form 4 is approved and the stamp should arrive next week. At least it is within sight now. :biggrin:

Assuming the stamp arrives next week the whole process took around 7 months.

[sonicmatter]

Stamp and suppressor picked up today. :woohoo1:

[GLOCKME]

Stamp and suppressor picked up today. :woohoo1:

Outstanding!!

Congrats! What ya get?

[sonicmatter]

Outstanding!!

Congrats! What ya get?
22 sparrow http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showpost.php?p=1745944&postcount=74

http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showpost.php?p=1747019&postcount=77

[pgaplayerless]

Sent ~4/9/12
Received ~9/14/12

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu4/pgaplayerless/IMG_20120923_213356_zpsd73d8a2f.jpg

[Phelptwan]

Well, the cashed my check in April, and I got a notice last week that part of my Trust had been lost, and was asked to resend it. Worthless gov't employees...

[rjrivero]

I find myself needing to vote again......LOL.