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fmsniper
12-18-2011, 04:53 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/FMSNIPER/IMG_0001-5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/FMSNIPER/IMG_0002-4.jpg
now to get rid of one of them, will do a shoot out and decide..


Range today
25 degrees, off bipod, American eagle 168 grain
100 yards, 4 shots were .4 center to center and under an inch with flyer 5 shots
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/FMSNIPER/P1400305.jpg

Wolvee
12-18-2011, 06:28 PM
Very nice. The biggest complaint I've seen on the FN forums is the lack of Mags.

fmsniper
12-18-2011, 06:31 PM
I am converting some FAL mags this week

Wolvee
12-18-2011, 06:53 PM
Are you actually able to do that? There is a lot of differences.

fmsniper
12-18-2011, 06:56 PM
yes it is not hard to do, SCAR 17 Mags are modified Fal mags for the most part.

Wolvee
12-18-2011, 08:06 PM
yes it is not hard to do, SCAR 17 Mags are modified Fal mags for the most part.

That's not what this guy says.
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fmsniper
12-18-2011, 08:15 PM
I have already done it for a friend, it works fine

Wolvee
12-18-2011, 08:30 PM
That's cool. Do you have any pics of the mags and know of a write up online that says ow to do it?

fmsniper
12-18-2011, 09:52 PM
no, but I will when i do some for myself, here is a good thread tho
http://fnforum.net/how-to-fal-mags-to-scar17s-t26801.html

RSF
12-18-2011, 10:49 PM
wait till they release the 25 round mag if ever..... its much better to say the least....


SCAR hvy is a great gun

MY scar light is a machine

fmsniper
01-01-2012, 07:44 AM
I have done 4 so far


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/FMSNIPER/02.jpg
not my photo but it shows you

a post for FN SCAR Forum


This is what you need:
1. FAL magazine. I bought a dozen surplus ones (Israeli I believe). I forgot to check the insides; some of them had a light coat of rust but nothing too bad. Also, one of them was too thick, they’re supposed to be 25mm. wide but this one was 26 so I discarded it. It wouldn’t eve fit the magwell.
2. A set of small diamond files. Ideally you can get a set with round, triangular and blade ones.
3. Electric Drill
4. Set of drill bits, one very small one and a medium sized one, 5mm should do it.
5. Steel ruler or small square
6. Workbench with a small vise
7. A scribe or something to mark your cuts
8. A caliper
9. Locking pliers
10. Some elbow grease

There are basically three areas that need attention.
The first one is a small tab on the front of the mag that you need to hammer down. The second step is the one that takes the most work, the rectangular hole on the left side of the mag. Finally you have to file down the front of the feedlips so they’ll feed smoothly. Remember to measure twice and cut once! Here we go:

Step One:
The forward tab. This is really simple; you just need to file it down a bit before you hit it with a hammer. I just removed the paint and a teeny bit of metal so that it would fold down without folding over. This is where you need the vise and some wood or metal as a base so that you don’t bend the whole mag when hitting the protruding tab. Once it’s more or less level you can go over it with the file to smooth things over.

Step Two:
Open the mag, pull the floorplate on the bottom towards the rear and remove the spring and magazine follower. You can clean it now but you’ll have to clean it again later anyway in order to remove all the metal shavings.
Put the mag upside down on a level surface and measure the height to the rectangular hole. I was lucky in that my square had the exact height for the upper border so I could just use the scribe to mark my first line. The size of the hole is 10mm wide and 6.5mm high. If you check the factory mag you can see that the hole is located next to a channel, I just used the factory mag for a visual reference in order to mark the rectangle with my scribe.
Now you have to drill some holes within that rectangle, I used the smallest drillbit I could find and put one hole in each corner. Then I grabbed a bigger drill bit (5mm) and put three holes next to one another. That allowed me to get one of my files in.
This is the fun part! Work that file until you have a perfect rectangle. Once you have the right dimensions you can make the protruding tab on the lower side of the rectangle, just like the factory mag. Place something that will help distribute the weight over the side of the mag and use a screwdriver to slightly lift the sheetmetal. Don’t overdo it as you’ll scratch the magwell if you make it too big.

Step Three:
The feed lips. Here you have to go pretty wild with the file. What you have to take away is the curve on the forward part of the feed lips. I don’t have a FAL here but I can’t understand how the FAL doesn’t misfeed with those lips. First you have to bend the feedlips slightly upwards because the Scar mag has a teeny bit more height. Use a locking plier to gently lift the feedlips one or two mm. upwards. Then you should file away the curve that you can see if look at the mag from above. Take a second to look at the mag from the front and you can see that you have to file away some metal there too. Don’t worry, there’s plenty metal there, just make sure you don’t make it wider than 14 mm between the feedlips at the tightest spot.

That’s really all there is to it, clean them well, re-assemble and see how they fit. You’ll probably need to make some adjustments here and there. I filled my magazines up, inserted them and racked the bolt to see how well it worked. Of my first three, one was flawless but the other two had a tendency to misfeed on the right side, I needed to shave a bit more metal off that side. Once that was done it worked like a charm.

I hope this can help some of you guys, as you can see it’s not rocket science but it does take a little bit of patience. ENJOY!

will do, the original poster on the FN forum has 500 rounds through his 5 mags with no issues



only thing different I did was bend out the bottom of the mag catch slot like the original as a stop
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/FMSNIPER/IMG_0127.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/FMSNIPER/IMG_0128.jpg


a few videos, had to stop; wife putting baby to sleep, will finish tomorrow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0dNwx71IsJ8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TxLxuk3Q_uM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Dg_epQC5880

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ocghE2RAX_M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7h5IhFstPZ0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XMPjKS90rQM

BWHaas
01-01-2012, 10:07 AM
Great info. Thanks for the thorough write up.

fmsniper
01-01-2012, 10:28 AM
sure thing

and for you FDE guys, a little duracoat and blue wonder Black
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/FMSNIPER/IMG_0001-7.jpg

RECON762WT
01-01-2012, 10:33 AM
Great DIY

mikeb32
01-01-2012, 10:36 AM
I agree, Great write up and presentation Fm

fmsniper
01-01-2012, 10:50 AM
Thanks, not much to do up here today, I am up to 7 mags done, we got about 6 inches of snow over night. So figured will stay in and do the rest.

mikeb32
01-01-2012, 10:52 AM
No snow here in Canton/Westland, just rain and a forecast of high winds.

fmsniper
01-01-2012, 10:53 AM
we had snow for the last month, but got some more last night, here in the U.P.

M5NSX
01-01-2012, 11:46 AM
Have you tried modifying the Pmags yet?? There are some youtube videos showing that-seems pretty straight forward if you have a dremel tool.

Thinking of getting a 17s-what was you final verdict?? Is it staying??

fmsniper
01-01-2012, 12:04 PM
Oh yes, I all ready sold the M1A, the Scar 17 is now my min Battle Rifle

Batman
01-02-2012, 10:39 PM
Have you tried modifying the Pmags yet?? There are some youtube videos showing that-seems pretty straight forward if you have a dremel tool. I have a heavy and I've modified three FAL mags and they work just fine. I have seen the videos of modifying the Pmags and upon measuring them it seems to me that the process will leave a very thin thickness of plastic once grinding is complete. I'm going to try one anyway to see if a successful modification is possible.

fmsniper
01-03-2012, 08:31 AM
Thermold mags work better no material to remove from the body

Batman
01-03-2012, 10:11 PM
Thermold mags work better no material to remove from the bodywell, I'll have to look into that. What mods are required?

RSF
01-05-2012, 02:43 AM
I can tell you this the battel comp 308 brake is more effctive than the PWS on that gun its amazing

fmsniper
01-05-2012, 09:00 AM
only latch cut on the side and nipple removal from the front



well, I'll have to look into that. What mods are required?

tx9aar
01-05-2012, 07:04 PM
Which Thermold mags did you use? I see a Metric and Inch pattern. Thanks

fmsniper
01-05-2012, 07:10 PM
metric from cheaper than dirt

http://www.cheaperthandirt.net/57885-1.html

Batman
01-06-2012, 12:18 AM
I can tell you this the battel comp 308 brake is more effctive than the PWS on that gun its amazingCan you put a can on that? I have an AAC on mine now with a can coming in the future.

Wolvee
01-06-2012, 12:49 AM
Awesome write up. I can't wait till I get my scar16s.

RSF
01-06-2012, 08:39 AM
Can you put a can on that? I have an AAC on mine now with a can coming in the future.


there are variants coming that will accept cans soon

fmsniper
01-06-2012, 09:01 AM
I have a design for a Can, waiting for my ATF manufacture license to make it
A made in Michigan Can much cheaper then whats out there.