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Barrettone
01-03-2013, 05:04 PM
Open Letter to Members of Congress:

In coming weeks, you will face pressure from the Obama administration and others to implement a ban on semi-automatic firearms and certain ammunition feeding devices, and to pass laws requiring private gun transfers to be processed via the National Instant Check System.

Yet the “assault weapon” misnomer is a myth perpetuated by gun control advocates who seek to confuse the public about the difference between millions of semi-automatic firearms, which are functionally identical to hunting rifles, and military “assault rifles,” which are machine guns virtually unavailable to the public since implementation of the National Firearms Act of 1934.

The truth about modern rifles

The modern rifles Senator Dianne Feinstein has, by her own admission, waited decades to ban differ from others primarily by cosmetic features such as barrel shrouds, threaded barrels, flash suppressors, pistol grips and adjustable stocks – things which do not affect function. The notion being promulgated by gun control advocates that such features increase lethality by allowing guns to be “fired from the hip” is absurd: Any firearms expert will attest that rifles can only be effectively utilized from the shoulder.

Although you are being told that ammunition used by modern rifles is excessively destructive, in truth it is ballistically inferior to common .30-06 hunting ammunition and was selected by the military not for its lethality, but instead for light weight and low recoil.

And when you hear how “high capacity” magazines increase mortality in mass shootings, understand that Seung-Hui Cho carried no fewer than nineteen magazines for the Virginia Tech rampage, and that nearly all mass murderers who use guns carry multiple firearms, rendering magazine capacity moot. Like the misnomer “assault weapon,” the “high capacity” designation of more than ten rounds for magazines represents nothing more than an arbitrary limit set on devices which have been in common possession since the early Twentieth Century.

Moreover, attempts to process private gun sales through the National Instant Check System represent nothing less than a stepping stone to national gun registration; under the Clinton administration, the FBI retained NICS transaction records in violation of the Brady Act, creating a defacto national registration system.

Most outrageous, however, is Sen. Feinstein’s proposal to regulate “grandfathered” modern rifles under the National Firearms Act. Doing so would not only entail registering millions of existing firearms, but would represent unprecedented expansion of police powers through the BATFE by requiring millions of gun owners to be fingerprinted and photographed like common criminals. Because a large percentage will refuse to comply, the scheme, if implemented, will make felons of otherwise law-abiding citizens.


Semi-auto ban: No impact on violence

Neither have such laws been effective. From 1994 to 2004, the previous ban on semi-automatic firearms and magazines had no impact on school shootings, which actually increased during that period. Indeed, some of the worst school shootings, including Columbine High School, took place during the ban.

Despite predictions from gun control advocates that violent crime would increase after the ban expired, it has actually dropped: According to FBI Uniform Crime Reports, between expiration of the ban in 2004 and the most recent for which data is available (2011), violent crime dropped by 17% and homicide, by 15%.

Meanwhile, weapons use in homicide has remained unchanged and, significantly, use of rifles (including those targeted for bans) declined slightly from 2.7% of homicides in 2004 to 2.5% of homicides in 2011. Clearly, rifles of any type, including those with features targeted by semi-auto bans, are rarely used in crimes.

‘Gun Free School Zones Act’ increased killings

What does appear to have impacted school shootings was implementation of the latest version of the “Gun Free School Zones Act” (GFSZA), which is associated with a dramatic increase in school murders.

Between the first significant school shooting, in 1966, and enactment of the 1996 GFSZA, media summaries reveal 8 shootings with 134 victims killed or wounded – a rate of 4.3 victims per year. Between 1996 and 2012, the review finds 62 shootings and 367 victims – a fivefold increase to 23 victims per year. Yet, during the same period, FBI Uniform Crime Reports indicate homicide nationwide dropped by 14%.

While media summaries may not be comprehensive, the GFSZA has clearly been an abject failure. Worse, evidence suggests it may actually create “kill zones” which attract violent predators.

Researchers John Lott and William Landes, then at Yale and the University of Chicago, respectively, studied multiple victim public shootings. Said Lott, “Gun prohibitionists concede that banning guns around schools has not quite worked as intended—but their response has been to call for more regulation of guns. Yet what might appear to be the most obvious policy may actually cost lives. When gun-control laws are passed, it is law-abiding citizens, not would-be criminals, who adhere to them.”

Examining data from 1976 to 1995, they discovered that mass homicides in states adopting concealed handgun laws declined by 84%, deaths plummeted by 90% and injuries by 82.5%. Crediting the reductions to deterrence (even suicidal maniacs avoid armed victims), Lott and Landes called their findings “dramatic,” concluding: “[T]he only policy factor to have a consistently significant influence on multiple victim public shootings is the passage of concealed handgun laws.”

Coalition position

Members of the National Coalition to Stop the Gun Ban demand that Congress refuse to use lawful gun owners as political scapegoats and instead reduce school violence by:

• Defeating any attempt to pass gun control including, but not limited to, banning semi-automatic firearms or magazines, or requiring private gun transfers to be registered through the National Instant Check System; and

• Repealing the Gun Free School Zones Act of 1996.

No ‘compromises’

Some will urge you to “compromise,” perhaps even the National Rifle Association. The many thousands of gun rights supporters represented by the Coalition, however, regard “compromise,” as our opposition defines it, to be a process in which we lose slightly fewer of our rights than under the original proposal. Consequently, any legislation which registers or bans firearms; limits magazine capacity; registers private transactions through NICS; or restricts time, place or manner of self-defense is unacceptable.

Members of Congress who support gun owners by opposing all gun control will, in turn, benefit from support by Coalition organizations. Members of Congress who support gun control by any means, procedural or substantive, will be targeted for defeat by Coalition members. They will be subject to picketing, leaflet drops at events in their districts, phone and mail campaigns, and political action committee opposition. NRA ratings and endorsements will have no impact on Coalition actions.

In coming weeks, we look forward to working with you to reduce school violence by allowing lawful citizens in schools and elsewhere to defend themselves against violent predators.

Respectfully,
The National Coalition to Stop the Gun Ban

Signatories

National Organizations:

The Firearms Coalition
Jeff Knox, Managing Director
Chris Knox, Director of Communications

Gun Owners of America
Larry D. Pratt, Executive Director

Rights Watch International
F. Paul Valone, Executive Director

Second Amendment Sisters
Marinelle Thompson, President
Lee Ann Tarducci, Director of Operations

USRKBA.org
Dave Yates, Co-founder
Dave Van, Co-Founder

State-level organizations:

Arizona Citizens Defense League
Dave Kopp, President


Arkansas Carry
Steve Jones, Chairman

Florida Carry, Inc.
Sean Caranna, Executive Director
Richard Nascak, Executive Director

Grass Roots North Carolina
F. Paul Valone, President

Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance, Minnesota
Joe Olson, President

Gun Owners of California
Sam Paredes, Executive Director

Gun Owners of Maine
Shane Belanger, Executive Director

Gun Owners of Utah
Charles Hardy, Public Policy Director

Gun Owners of Vermont
Gary Cutler, Legislative Director

Michigan Gun Owners
Jeff LaFave, President

Montana Shooting Sports Association
Gary Marbut, President

New Hampshire Firearms Coalition
Jonathan R. Evans, Esq, President

New Jersey 2nd Amendment Society
Frank Flamingo, President

Nebraska Firearms Owners Association
Wesley Dickinson, President

Oregon Firearms Federation
Kevin Starrett, Executive Director

Peaceable Texans for Firearms Rights
Paul Velte, President

Virginia Citizens Defense League
Philip Van Cleave, President

West Virginia Citizens Defense League
Keith Morgan, President

Western Missouri Shooters Alliance
Kevin Jamison, Press Officer

Wisconsin Carry, Inc
Nik Clark, Chairman/President
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Marcus
01-03-2013, 08:37 PM
Nicely done.

I'm ready for it. Maybe sticky this and update if there is to be a cordinated grassroots emailing, phonecalling or otherwise campaign. Subscribed people can get instructions....

tote'ngranny
01-04-2013, 03:33 AM
:clap:

Dsully
01-04-2013, 05:06 AM
Nicely done

G22
01-04-2013, 07:25 AM
This is what it's all about. Let's get busy making our voices heard. No compromises.

Good start MGO!

CnA
01-04-2013, 07:33 AM
Great job!

mikeb32
01-04-2013, 07:38 AM
Agreed!!!!

MrMike
01-04-2013, 08:17 AM
All Aboard !

gjgalligan
01-04-2013, 08:52 AM
It really needs the NRA to sign on.
I know many people do like the NRA but it still is the most known of the bunch.

hendo
01-04-2013, 09:10 AM
Well written statement, thanks to all who contributed to it's creation.

BOSS302
01-04-2013, 09:20 AM
Excellent!

Fett
01-04-2013, 11:27 AM
Awesome letter!

MrMike
01-04-2013, 12:35 PM
It really needs the NRA to sign on.
I know many people do like the NRA but it still is the most known of the bunch.

Yeah... This IS crunch time. The term "true colors" comes to mind.
We'll see.

RevDerb
01-04-2013, 01:54 PM
:clap:

My new donation will be there shortly. This is the kind of stuff that MGO SHOULD be about - not the cockamamie postings regarding "what should I do?" :cry: ,the sky is falling, "how can I circumvent the law?" and general misinformation and disinformation that has appeared on here lately. Overall, I've been ashamed to admit that I'm associated with it.

Pyzik
01-04-2013, 01:56 PM
That is AWESOME!
I might just have to give MGO some money and become a member again.

MSGT
01-04-2013, 04:07 PM
After being a member of the forums for many years, MGO will now receive my membership monies!!

Divegeek
01-04-2013, 04:42 PM
Well said.

Barrettone
01-04-2013, 06:23 PM
And it's getting momentum and good press!!!

http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/01/gun-groups-to-congress-members-wont-register/

PDinDetroit
01-04-2013, 06:25 PM
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

This is how I want those who would support Gun Control to feel...

Barrettone
01-04-2013, 06:38 PM
After being a member of the forums for many years, MGO will now receive my membership monies!!

While I am glad to hear this, please understand something...The last several years, our rights had actually been EXPANDING. When that was the case, we were building our war chest. Now, we have a good cause to unload on. We were conservative and judicious with your funds, so that, in our hour of need, we could strike hard at those who dared to try and take away our rights. Our mission is to educate and protect Michigan firearms owners, and lend a hand in the national fight. And trust me...WE WILL FIGHT HARD!!! Please do not let our actions or inactions in relatively peaceful times for gun ownership be what you base your allegiance on. We saved all those dues, and all those donations FOR THIS FIGHT. When the chips are down, MGO will be there for you...please never forget that. I am sure you can agree, that you all haven't seen this much activity on this site in years. We plan to unload on these guys!!! There will be no safe haven for them when we are done with them. Not even the NRA is being allowed to call all the shots on this one. We even put them on notice, as they have dealt-down in the past. Stay tuned...it's get ugly!!!

Dsully
01-04-2013, 07:27 PM
While I am glad to hear this, please understand something...The last several years, our rights had actually been EXPANDING. When that was the case, we were building our war chest. Now, we have a good cause to unload on. We were conservative and judicious with your funds, so that, in our hour of need, we could strike hard at those who dared to try and take away our rights. Our mission is to educate and protect Michigan firearms owners, and lend a hand in the national fight. And trust me...WE WILL FIGHT HARD!!! Please do not let our actions or inactions in relatively peaceful times for gun ownership be what you base your allegiance on. We saved all those dues, and all those donations FOR THIS FIGHT. When the chips are down, MGO will be there for you...please never forget that. I am sure you can agree, that you all haven't seen this much activity on this site in years. We plan to unload on these guys!!! There will be no safe haven for them when we are done with them. Not even the NRA is being allowed to call all the shots on this one. We even put them on notice, as they have dealt-down in the past. Stay tuned...it's get ugly!!!

I think I did a 5 year membership but where's the life time? I'd do that now if it were an option. Or I could do a few more 5 years ;)

XDcarry
01-04-2013, 07:28 PM
Also a database needs to be kept on all elected officials who vote for any restricting gun laws. Then when re-election time comes they need to be actively campaigned against.

SeeTee
01-04-2013, 08:43 PM
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

This is how I want those who would support Gun Control to feel...

I feel the same and like this quote,

"Quit thinking about what Bobby Lee's gonna do to us and start thinking about what we're going to do to him."
-Ulysses S. Grant, after Lee's first attack at Wilderness

Harry25
01-05-2013, 04:27 AM
Glad to hear it!

HVYMTLMEC
01-05-2013, 07:51 AM
Nice.

Just a thought -

Has this been posted on the MGO Facebook page? Nothing like free marketing to motivate persons that are interested in this and getting them all to one spot.

Please let me know if I can be of any assistance.

It is time to draw the line, this is our country. Not their country club -

Pyzik
01-05-2013, 10:58 AM
Nice.

Just a thought -

Has this been posted on the MGO Facebook page? Nothing like free marketing to motivate persons that are interested in this and getting them all to one spot.

Please let me know if I can be of any assistance.

It is time to draw the line, this is our country. Not their country club -
MGO has a Facebook page?
Oh,I see I already liked it. It's just rarely updated.

Tallbear
01-06-2013, 07:23 PM
A collaborative effort of 27 pro-gun state and national organizations has formed to fight against any federal gun bans. The group is referring to themselves as the “National Coalition to Stop the Gun Ban” and has announced the formation of the coalition January 3, 1013.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/04/gun-organizations-unite-to-stop-gun-ban/#ixzz2HFEC41xC

AngieMarie
01-06-2013, 08:53 PM
Great Job!

oldskoolford427
01-06-2013, 09:06 PM
Now is the time to stand together!!

right2bear
01-06-2013, 09:40 PM
It really needs the NRA to sign on.
I know many people do like the NRA but it still is the most known of the bunch.


Needs... yes, will they... highly doubtful, they'll probably just compromise to keeping the "hunting rifles" :togo:

MrSmithMSU
01-06-2013, 11:11 PM
Bravo!

big44maghunter
01-07-2013, 12:20 PM
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

This is how I want those who would support Gun Control to feel...



Same here.

sonicmatter
01-07-2013, 06:11 PM
I'm curious how the NRA is going to fit into the picture? Is the coalition in touch with them and if so what have they said? What role are they going to play in the big picture? I think it's important we get everyone on board and especially on the same page.

TangoDown3727
01-07-2013, 08:35 PM
:clap: Very well done indeed! :salute: Please sticky this so we can subscribe and keep up with any updates, grassroots actions, etc.

sonicmatter
01-09-2013, 03:25 PM
I'm curious how the NRA is going to fit into the picture? Is the coalition in touch with them and if so what have they said? What role are they going to play in the big picture? I think it's important we get everyone on board and especially on the same page.
For those interested. I finally got through to the NRA and was told they are not cooperating with this coalition at the moment because all their resources are in DC lobbying. That's a little disappointing as I'd hoped the NRA would have enough resources but it appears they don't. Either that or they just poo pooed the coalition and are doing things their way.

Barrettone
01-09-2013, 05:21 PM
For those interested. I finally got through to the NRA and was told they are not cooperating with this coalition at the moment because all their resources are in DC lobbying. That's a little disappointing as I'd hoped the NRA would have enough resources but it appears they don't. Either that or they just poo pooed the coalition and are doing things their way.

There are things going on back channel that not everybody sees. For instance, we are currently "framing" our argument. The frst thing you need to do, is see how the government is going to attack. It appears that Executive Order and registration/confiscation is going to be their point of attack. Now, we are looking at countering that by making this about "freedom". Please do not let the silence of the last few days make you think that nothing is happenning. Trust me...I am getting bombed with emails on these issues. You guys all just need to be ready once the strategy is unveiled in its entirety. What I told you is just one "nugget" of everything that is being discussed. Rather than broadcast several messages (which can be confusing), I am waiting to release things once all is known, so we are all disseminating the same information. You guys elected us to lead, and we are doing so. We represent YOU. If what we come back with is not representative, then we have a problem. I moniter the site constantly to get a "pulse" on the members, and by that, I mean EVERY COMMENT EVERYWHERE ON THE SITE!!!

Steady Men (and Ladies)

zigziggityzoo
01-09-2013, 05:25 PM
Arguments about the second amendment used to revolve around whether guns keep us free. These days, however, they're all about whether guns keep us safe.

Something significant has already been lost.

right2bear
01-09-2013, 06:52 PM
For those interested. I finally got through to the NRA and was told they are not cooperating with this coalition at the moment because all their resources are in DC lobbying. That's a little disappointing as I'd hoped the NRA would have enough resources but it appears they don't. Either that or they just poo pooed the coalition and are doing things their way.

Why am I not surprised that when the call out to the NRA for something real, tangible, and needed will go unanswered.... Hmmmm, why I still won't pay to support them.

Patriot61
01-09-2013, 08:37 PM
Excellent letter

Huntime
01-11-2013, 09:21 PM
Very well thought out letter. Just wondering what kind of numbers (members) are represented with the sign on groups to the Coalition?

Barrettone
01-11-2013, 10:18 PM
It is in the 500,000 range from what I am told.

bmiller08
01-17-2013, 03:06 PM
I dont know If anyone has heard but I have heard about a protest to protect our second amendment rights this weekend january 19 at our state capitol. I have read the threads and I have not seen anything for a protest in michigan. I don't know how to spread the world fast enough and would like people to show up with me to protest peacefully. If you can spread the word please do! sitting on our ass isn't going to make anything better our voices need to be heard!

Barrettone
01-17-2013, 04:22 PM
I dont know If anyone has heard but I have heard about a protest to protect our second amendment rights this weekend january 19 at our state capitol. I have read the threads and I have not seen anything for a protest in michigan. I don't know how to spread the world fast enough and would like people to show up with me to protest peacefully. If you can spread the word please do! sitting on our ass isn't going to make anything better our voices need to be heard!

I have posted it under upcoming events.

fbuckner
01-18-2013, 12:06 PM
MCRGO has posted there aill be a 2nd amendment rally this spring and do not stand behind the Jan 19th rally at the capitol. They said it was because it was a saturday and basically a waste of time. Huron Sports is hosting one at their shop which IMO is just a marketing gimmic. Has MGO been invited to attend the second amendment rally in the spring.

donaldj
01-18-2013, 12:33 PM
I just read an article that said it was very doubtful the Senate (democrat controlled) had enough votes for another assault weapons bill, let alone the House, which most definitely does not.

This explains the need for some extras time and Obummer's media-marketing-machine to gear up and portray us as evil.

G22
01-18-2013, 12:51 PM
MCRGO has posted there aill be a 2nd amendment rally this spring and do not stand behind the Jan 19th rally at the capitol. They said it was because it was a saturday and basically a waste of time. Huron Sports is hosting one at their shop which IMO is just a marketing gimmic. Has MGO been invited to attend the second amendment rally in the spring.

Double edged sword. A rally during the week will turn out very few participants. Making it look like very few gun owners care about it. On the other hand a rally on Saturday means no Reps to hear it.

If you rally at the capital, and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

Barrettone
01-18-2013, 04:30 PM
MCRGO has posted there aill be a 2nd amendment rally this spring and do not stand behind the Jan 19th rally at the capitol. They said it was because it was a saturday and basically a waste of time. Huron Sports is hosting one at their shop which IMO is just a marketing gimmic. Has MGO been invited to attend the second amendment rally in the spring.

Yes, we are invited to the one in the spring. I know the tentative date, but I can't release it just yet until it is all confirmed. As for this Saturday, MGO is the event holder of record at the Capitol. I personally filled out the permit paperwork for the event. Come on out if you can. Look for the MGO banner and our members!!!