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Tallbear
01-17-2013, 09:18 AM
SB 0060 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-SB-0060)
Weapons; licensing; definition of federally licensed firearms dealer; modify.
Last Action: 1/16/2013 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY

Roundballer
01-17-2013, 12:09 PM
We kind of spotted that screw up too. That language has always been there, and we didn't notice it until HB 5225 passed.

Question:
Can't a paper entity also be an FFL? Or, do they include corporations in the term "person"?


(7) As used in this section, "federally licensed firearms dealer" means an individual who holds a type 01 dealer license a person licensed to sell firearms under 18 USC 923.

Tallbear
01-19-2013, 12:16 AM
NOTICE OF SCHEDULED MEETING
**PLEASE NOTE DATE AND TIME**

COMMITTEE: Judiciary

DATE: Wednesday, January 23, 2013

TIME: 8:30 AM

PLACE: Room 110, Farnum Building, 125 W. Allegan Street, Lansing, MI 48933

PHONE: Lauren Michalak (373-5323)
Committee Clerk

AGENDA

Organizational Meeting

SB 43 Sen. Jones Courts; judges; certain district court judgeships; increase, and reduce number of circuit court judgeships.

SB 49 Sen. Casperson Weapons; licensing; certain firearm licensing information; exempt from freedom of information act.

SB 60 Sen. Green Weapons; licensing; definition of federally licensed firearms dealer; modify.

SB 63 Sen. Pavlov Weapons; firearms; Michigan firearms freedom act; create.

SB 44 Sen. Jones Criminal procedure; sex offender registration; placement on the public registry; remove certain exceptions.

Tallbear
01-23-2013, 10:36 AM
SB 0060 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-SB-0060)
Weapons; licensing; definition of federally licensed firearms dealer; modify. Amends sec. 2a of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.422a).
Last Action: 1/22/2013 Analysis File Added

Roundballer
01-23-2013, 01:53 PM
Okay.....

We will have to wait and see what the "S-2" version looks like. Hopefully, the they haven't done any more than clean-up the "Person" language to include ALL FFls that sell to the public.

We should know tomorrow or Friday.

Tallbear
01-24-2013, 11:18 AM
SB 0060 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-SB-0060)
Weapons; licensing; definition of federally licensed firearms dealer; modify. Amends sec. 2a of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.422a).
Last Action: 1/24/2013 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WITH SUBSTITUTE S-2

Divegeek
01-24-2013, 12:49 PM
Wow...this one is really moving. It passed the Senate already. What I find sad is that 5 people in the senate are so anti-gun they voted no on this thing.

Roundballer
01-24-2013, 01:10 PM
We now have the S-2 language, looks pretty good. They cleaned up the some confusion, and made the change retroactive back to when 5225 was passed.

12 --(A) BEFORE DECEMBER 18, 2012, "federally licensed firearms
13 dealer" means an individual who holds a type 01 dealer license
14 under 18 USC 923.
15 --(B) BEGINNING DECEMBER 18, 2012, "FEDERALLY LICENSED FIREARMS
16 DEALER" MEANS A PERSON LICENSED TO SELL FIREARMS UNDER 18 USC 923.
17 --(C) "PERSON" MEANS AN INDIVIDUAL, PARTNERSHIP, CORPORATION,
18 ASSOCIATION, OR OTHER LEGAL ENTITY.
19 --Enacting section 1. This amendatory act is retroactive and is
20 effective December 18, 2012.

And by what else is listed:

1/24/2013 Expected in SJ 4 SUBSTITUTE S-2 CONCURRED IN
1/24/2013 Expected in SJ 4 PLACED ON ORDER OF THIRD READING WITH SUBSTITUTE S-2
1/24/2013 Expected in SJ 4 RULES SUSPENDED
1/24/2013 Expected in SJ 4 PLACED ON IMMEDIATE PASSAGE
1/24/2013 Expected in SJ 4 PASSED ROLL CALL # 2 YEAS 31 NAYS 5 EXCUSED 1 NOT VOTING 0
1/24/2013 Expected in HJ 5 received on 01/24/2013
1/24/2013 Expected in HJ 5 read a first time
1/24/2013 Expected in HJ 5 referred to Committee on Natural Resources
It passed the Senate 31 - 5, and has been read in the House. It now goes to committee.

Tallbear
02-07-2013, 04:42 PM
House Standing Committee Meeting

Natural Resources, Rep. Andrea LaFontaine, Chair

DATE: Tuesday, February 12, 2013

TIME: 12:00 PM

PLACE: Room 307, House Office Building, Lansing, MI

AGENDA:
HB 4132 (Rep. Pettalia) Natural resources; soil and erosion; membership on a conservation district board; allow temporary appointments to fill vacancies under certain circumstances.

SB 60 (Sen. Green) Weapons; licensing; definition of federally licensed firearms dealer; modify.

TheQ
02-08-2013, 04:48 PM
House Standing Committee Meeting

Natural Resources, Rep. Andrea LaFontaine, Chair

DATE: Tuesday, February 12, 2013

TIME: 12:00 PM

PLACE: Room 307, House Office Building, Lansing, MI

AGENDA:
HB 4132 (Rep. Pettalia) Natural resources; soil and erosion; membership on a conservation district board; allow temporary appointments to fill vacancies under certain circumstances.

SB 60 (Sen. Green) Weapons; licensing; definition of federally licensed firearms dealer; modify.


I plan to be there.

dab102999
02-08-2013, 08:38 PM
I am a little confused. In this bill it says you have 10 days to return your portion of permit to your police Dept.

Now if you have to get a pistol purchase permit for private sale is that still a 30 day limit??

So if you buy from a dealer you have 10 days but from a private sale you have 30 days to get your portion to the police? ?

Roundballer
02-08-2013, 08:51 PM
I am a little confused. In this bill it says you have 10 days to return your portion of permit to your police Dept.

Now if you have to get a pistol purchase permit for private sale is that still a 30 day limit??

So if you buy from a dealer you have 10 days but from a private sale you have 30 days to get your portion to the police? ?
Yes, you just have a little confusion. They changed the law so that the License To Purchase is good to make your PURCHASE WITH 30 DAYS, then you have 10 days from the DATE OF PURCHASE to turn either the LTP (RI-10) OR the PSR (RI-06). That all changed with the passage of HR5225 last Dec.

This Bill just cleans up a SNAFU with the definition of a "Licensed Dealer"

Tallbear
02-12-2013, 11:24 AM
SB 0060 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-SB-0060)
Weapons; licensing; definition of federally licensed firearms dealer; modify. Amends sec. 2a of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.422a).
Last Action: 2/11/2013 Analysis File Added

Tallbear
02-13-2013, 11:19 AM
SB 0060 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-SB-0060)
Weapons; licensing; definition of federally licensed firearms dealer; modify. Amends sec. 2a of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.422a).
Last Action: 2/12/2013 referred to second reading

Tallbear
02-21-2013, 09:55 AM
SB 0060 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-SB-0060)
Weapons; licensing; definition of federally licensed firearms dealer; modify. Amends sec. 2a of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.422a).
Last Action: 2/20/2013 placed on third reading

Tallbear
02-22-2013, 09:52 AM
SB 0060 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-SB-0060)
Weapons; licensing; definition of federally licensed firearms dealer; modify. Amends sec. 2a of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.422a).
Last Action: 2/21/2013 returned to Senate

Roundballer
02-22-2013, 12:36 PM
Passed the House "passed; given immediate effect Roll Call # 10 Yeas 75 Nays 34"

AND then returned to the Senate.

Next up, the Gov.

Tallbear
02-27-2013, 09:31 AM
SB 0060 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-SB-0060)
Weapons; licensing; definition of federally licensed firearms dealer; modify. Amends sec. 2a of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.422a).
Last Action: 2/26/2013 ORDERED ENROLLED

Roundballer
03-05-2013, 06:45 PM
How come there have been no updates on this?

The Senate Journal #17, records:


The bill was referred to the Secretary for enrollment printing and presentation to the Governor.
It has been over ten days.
Is the Secretary sitting on this?
Does the Governor have it yet?
Has the 14 day clock started yet?
Is there an intentional delay?

Tallbear
03-07-2013, 10:10 AM
SB 0060 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-SB-0060)
Weapons; licensing; definition of federally licensed firearms dealer; modify. Amends sec. 2a of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.422a).
Last Action: 3/7/2013 PRESENTED TO GOVERNOR 3/6/2013 @ 3:10 PM

klrguy
03-12-2013, 09:05 PM
Date Journal Action
1/16/2013 SJ 2 Pg. 26 INTRODUCED BY SENATOR MICHAEL GREEN
1/16/2013 SJ 2 Pg. 26 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
1/24/2013 SJ 4 Pg. 73 REPORTED FAVORABLY WITH SUBSTITUTE S-2
1/24/2013 SJ 4 Pg. 73 COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED IMMEDIATE EFFECT
1/24/2013 SJ 4 Pg. 73 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WITH SUBSTITUTE S-2
1/24/2013 SJ 4 Pg. 45 REPORTED BY COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE FAVORABLY WITH SUBSTITUTE S-2
1/24/2013 SJ 4 Pg. 45 SUBSTITUTE S-2 CONCURRED IN
1/24/2013 SJ 4 Pg. 45 PLACED ON ORDER OF THIRD READING WITH SUBSTITUTE S-2
1/24/2013 SJ 4 Pg. 45 RULES SUSPENDED
1/24/2013 SJ 4 Pg. 45 PLACED ON IMMEDIATE PASSAGE
1/24/2013 SJ 4 Pg. 46 PASSED ROLL CALL # 2 YEAS 31 NAYS 5 EXCUSED 1 NOT VOTING 0
1/24/2013 HJ 5 Pg. 74 received on 01/24/2013
1/24/2013 HJ 5 Pg. 74 read a first time
1/24/2013 HJ 5 Pg. 74 referred to Committee on Natural Resources
2/12/2013 HJ 12 Pg. 135 reported with recommendation without amendment
2/12/2013 HJ 12 Pg. 135 referred to second reading
2/20/2013 HJ 16 Pg. 177 read a second time
2/20/2013 HJ 16 Pg. 177 placed on third reading
2/21/2013 HJ 17 Pg. 194 read a third time
2/21/2013 HJ 17 Pg. 194 passed; given immediate effect Roll Call # 10 Yeas 75 Nays 34
2/21/2013 HJ 17 Pg. 194 returned to Senate
2/26/2013 SJ 17 Pg. 215 GIVEN IMMEDIATE EFFECT
2/26/2013 SJ 17 Pg. 215 ORDERED ENROLLED
3/7/2013 SJ 22 Pg. 266 PRESENTED TO GOVERNOR 3/6/2013 @ 3:10 PM
3/13/2013 Expected in
SJ 24 APPROVED BY GOVERNOR 3/12/2013 @ 9:34 AM
3/13/2013 Expected in
SJ 24 FILED WITH SECRETARY OF STATE 3/12/2013 @ 1:25 PM
3/13/2013 Expected in
SJ 24 ASSIGNED PA 0003'13 WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT

Tallbear
03-13-2013, 09:16 AM
SB 0060 of 2013 (PA 0003 of 2013) (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-SB-0060)
Weapons; licensing; definition of federally licensed firearms dealer; modify. Amends sec. 2a of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.422a).
Last Action: 3/13/2013 ASSIGNED PA 0003'13 WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT

2A Firearms
03-21-2013, 09:56 AM
best part is, they made it retroactive to 12/18/2013. yay.

now, if we could just get them to throw out all the laws, especially registration.

Tallbear
11-20-2013, 09:56 AM
SB 0060 of 2013 (PA 0003 of 2013) (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-SB-0060)
Weapons; licensing; definition of federally licensed firearms dealer; modify. Amends sec. 2a of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.422a).
Last Action: 11/19/2013 Analysis File Added

Tallbear
02-21-2014, 01:36 PM
SB 0060 of 2013 (PA 0003 of 2013) Weapons; licensing; definition of federally licensed firearms dealer; modify. Amends sec. 2a of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.422a). Last Action: 2/20/2014 placed on third reading