HB 4715, 4716, 4717 possession of ammunition

[Tallbear]

HB 4715 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4715)
Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit. Amends sec. 224f of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224f).
Last Action: 5/14/2013 referred to Committee on Judiciary
HB 4716 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4716)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 16m, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.16m). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 5/14/2013 referred to Committee on Judiciary
HB 4717 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4717)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update. Amends sec. 4 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.424). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 5/14/2013 referred to Committee on Judiciary

[G22]

They forgot to include bullets, primers, powder, and brass.

After all, since they cant be in possession of firearms, ammo does them no good. And if they can't have ammo, neither does bullets, primers, powder, or brass...

Plenty of time to propose meaningless legislation and no time for meaningful Pro-Gun legislation...

Worthless...

[Roundballer]

They forgot to include bullets, primers, powder, and brass.

After all, since they cant be in possession of firearms, ammo does them no good. And if they can't have ammo, neither does bullets, primers, powder, or brass...

Plenty of time to propose meaningless legislation and no time for meaningful Pro-Gun legislation...

Worthless...
So are the three RINO's that are sponsoring these bills.


Just what is it that these bills are supposed to accomplish? Are they just trying to create additional felonies to tack on when some is already convicted of a crime?

I also see that they assigned it to a committee that the primary serves on. I would think that, that is a conflict of interest.


Heise is chair of the House Criminal Justice Committee. He also serves on the Judiciary (http://gophouse.org/representatives/southeast/heise/); Elections and Ethics; and Transportation committees.

[Leader]

I didn't realize we had such a problem with felons that had ammo.

Just what is it that they are doing with the ammo that we need to put them in prison for?

How does it hurt anyone if a person that wrote a bad check 50 years ago transports some ammo for his grandson to the range?

[Corpsie]

If those pass, I wonder how many people won't be able to continue selling ammo here. ;)

[amontana086]

If those pass, I wonder how many people won't be able to continue selling ammo here. ;)

All these gougers are already crooks in my book.

[xmanhockey7]

Well if this passes we may need to require background checks on ammo to make sure criminals can't get their hands on it.

[Roundballer]

Well if this passes we may need to require background checks on ammo to make sure criminals can't get their hands on it.
Which would then require something like a FOID card?

I would suggest that we STRONGLY oppose this one.

[45/70fan]

Which would then require something like a FOID card?

I would suggest that we STRONGLY oppose this one.

:yeahthat:

It would be far better to pass some meaningful legislation that would benefit honest gun owners and hunters. The RINO's seem to have forgotten the people that put them in office, hopefully for the last time. Like a compost pile that needs turning over to be productive it is time to do the same with some legislators.

[luckless]

Looks like Foster has finally admitted he is on the other side.

[G22]

So are the three RINO's that are sponsoring these bills.

That's exactly what I meant :wink:

[djohn625]

meanwhile...no conclusive legislation on immigration reform to keep dangerous cartels out of our country.

[Tallbear]

House Standing Committee Meeting

Judiciary, Rep. Kevin Cotter, Chair

DATE: Thursday, October 17, 2013

TIME: 9:00 AM

PLACE: Room 521, House Office Building, Lansing, MI

AGENDA:
SB 321 (Sen. Jones) Crimes; trespassing; process servers; exempt from trespassing law under certain circumstances.

HB 5020 (Rep. Jenkins) Courts; other; DWI/sobriety court interlock pilot project; eliminate sunset.

HB 5021 (Rep. Lauwers) Courts; other; DWI/sobriety court interlock pilot project; eliminate sunset.

HB 4570 (Rep. Cotter) Courts; juries; eligibility to postpone jury service of students; expand to include full-time higher education students under certain circumstances.

HB 4133 (Rep. Johnson) Weapons; licensing; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include certain retired corrections officers.

HB 4134 (Rep. Foster) Weapons; other; waiver of no-carry zone and certain educational requirements; provide for certain law enforcement and military officials.

HB 4350 (Rep. Leonard) Weapons; other; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include prosecutors.

HB 4715 (Rep. Heise) Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit.

HB 4716 (Rep. Graves) Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update.

HB 4717 (Rep. Kesto) Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update.

[Tallbear]

HB 4715 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4715)
Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit. Amends sec. 224f of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224f).
Last Action: 10/17/2013 Analysis File Added
HB 4716 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4716)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 16m, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.16m). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 10/17/2013 Analysis File Added
HB 4717 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4717)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update. Amends sec. 4 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.424). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 10/17/2013 Analysis File Added

[luckless]

Who wants this and why?

[madmathew]

Who wants this and why?


That's what I'm wondering too?

[Corpsie]

Who wants this and why?

Sponsors
Kurt Heise - (primary)Dale W. Zorn, Klint Kesto

That's from the links posted by Tallbear. E-mail those people to inquire.

[DV8r]

EVERY new law takes away another FREEDOM from some or ALL!

:flamethr::facepalm::bfg:

[Divegeek]

Well they are all republicans, but I can tell you that Zorn is quite a centrist. I won't go so far as to call him a RINO, but he is not a conservative.

[Tallbear]

House Standing Committee Meeting

Judiciary, Rep. Kevin Cotter, Chair

DATE: Thursday, October 31, 2013

TIME: 9:00 AM

PLACE: Room 521, House Office Building, Lansing, MI

AGENDA:
HB 4133 (Rep. Johnson) Weapons; licensing; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include certain retired corrections officers.

HB 4134 (Rep. Foster) Weapons; other; waiver of no-carry zone and certain educational requirements; provide for certain law enforcement and military officials.

HB 4350 (Rep. Leonard) Weapons; other; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include prosecutors.

HB 4715 (Rep. Heise) Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit.

HB 4716 (Rep. Graves) Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update.

HB 4717 (Rep. Kesto) Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update.

[Tallbear]

HB 4715 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4715)
Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit. Amends sec. 224f of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224f).
Last Action: 10/31/2013 referred to second reading
HB 4716 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4716)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 16m, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.16m). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 10/31/2013 referred to second reading
HB 4717 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4717)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update. Amends sec. 4 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.424). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 10/31/2013 referred to second reading

[Tallbear]

HB 4715 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4715)
Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit. Amends sec. 224f of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224f).
Last Action: 11/7/2013 placed on third reading
HB 4716 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4716)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 16m, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.16m). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 11/7/2013 placed on third reading
HB 4717 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4717)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update. Amends sec. 4 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.424). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 11/7/2013 placed on third reading

[luckless]

Does anyone know when the Republicans are going to start advancing anything that is pro gun?

[Bikenut]

Does anyone know when the Republicans are going to start advancing anything that is pro gun?Yes... when Hell has been frozen over for more than 3 weeks.

[Tallbear]

HB 4715 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4715)
Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit. Amends sec. 224f of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224f).
Last Action: 11/11/2013 Analysis File Added
HB 4716 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4716)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 16m, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.16m). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 11/11/2013 Analysis File Added
HB 4717 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4717)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update. Amends sec. 4 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.424). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 11/11/2013 Analysis File Added

[Tallbear]

HB 4715 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4715)
Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit. Amends sec. 224f of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224f).
Last Action: 11/12/2013 transmitted
HB 4716 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4716)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 16m, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.16m). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 11/12/2013 transmitted
HB 4717 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4717)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update. Amends sec. 4 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.424). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 11/12/2013 transmitted

[Tallbear]

DATE: Tuesday, January 14, 2014

TIME: 2:30 p.m.

PLACE: Room 110, Farnum Building, 125 W. Allegan Street, Lansing, MI 48933

PHONE: Michael Hart (373-5312)
Committee Clerk

AGENDA

HB 5069 Rep. Heise Property; other; liability for damages if landlord enters premises; provide exception if occupant is squatting.

HB 5070 Rep. Heise Crimes; trespassing; definition of squatter; provide for, and provide penalties for squatting on certain premises.

HB 5071 Rep. Heise Criminal procedure; sentencing guidelines; sentencing guidelines for crime of squatting; enact.

HB 4808 Rep. O'Brien Crimes; penalties; mandatory life imprisonment for certain crimes; eliminate to reflect United States supreme court decision in Miller v Alabama.

HB 4715 Rep. Heise Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit.

HB 4716 Rep. Graves Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update.

HB 4717 Rep. Kesto Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update.

HB 4895 Rep. Kesto Criminal procedure; sentencing; penalty for concealment of a stolen vehicle; increase with prior convictions.

HB 4896 Rep. Kesto Criminal procedure; sentencing guidelines; crime of receiving and concealing a motor vehicle, second or subsequent offense; enact.

[Tallbear]

HB 4715 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4715)
Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit. Amends sec. 224f of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224f).
Last Action: 1/14/2014 Analysis File Added
HB 4716 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4716)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 16m, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.16m). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 1/14/2014 Analysis File Added
HB 4717 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4717)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update. Amends sec. 4 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.424). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 1/14/2014 Analysis File Added

[langenc]

Well if this passes we may need to require background checks on ammo to make sure criminals can't get their hands on it.


Back about 35+ yrs ago we had to sign a book to buy ammo. I dont believe there was an ID check involved. Never prevented one crime.

[Leader]

Back about 35+ yrs ago we had to sign a book to buy ammo. I dont believe there was an ID check involved. Never prevented one crime.

I was buying ammo 35 years ago and I don't remember ever having to sign for ammo.

[DEVIL DOG]

I can go back to about 50 years. Never signed anything either.

[Tallbear]

HB 4715 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4715)
Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit. Amends sec. 224f of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224f).
Last Action: 1/16/2014 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WITH SUBSTITUTE S-1
HB 4716 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4716)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 16m, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.16m). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 1/16/2014 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WITH SUBSTITUTE S-1
HB 4717 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4717)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update. Amends sec. 4 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.424). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 1/16/2014 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WITH SUBSTITUTE S-1

[luckless]

It sure was nice way back when you could count on republicans to support gun rights.

[Tallbear]

HB 4715 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4715)
Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit. Amends sec. 224f of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224f).
Last Action: 1/22/2014 PLACED ON ORDER OF THIRD READING WITH SUBSTITUTE S-1
HB 4716 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4716)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 16m, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.16m). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 1/22/2014 PLACED ON ORDER OF THIRD READING WITH SUBSTITUTE S-1
HB 4717 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4717)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update. Amends sec. 4 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.424). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 1/22/2014 PLACED ON ORDER OF THIRD READING WITH SUBSTITUTE S-1

[Roundballer]

And they all passed:


4715
1/23/2014 Expected in SJ 7 PASSED; GIVEN IMMEDIATE EFFECT ROLL CALL # 4 YEAS 38 NAYS 0 EXCUSED 0 NOT VOTING 0
1/23/2014 Expected in SJ 7 INSERTED FULL TITLE
1/23/2014 Expected in HJ 8 returned from Senate with substitute S-1 with immediate effect and full title
1/23/2014 Expected in HJ 8 laid over one day under the rules

4716
1/23/2014 Expected in SJ 7 PASSED; GIVEN IMMEDIATE EFFECT ROLL CALL # 5 YEAS 38 NAYS 0 EXCUSED 0 NOT VOTING 0
1/23/2014 Expected in SJ 7 INSERTED FULL TITLE
1/23/2014 Expected in HJ 8 returned from Senate with substitute S-1 with immediate effect and full title
1/23/2014 Expected in HJ 8 laid over one day under the rules

4717
1/23/2014 Expected in SJ 7 PASSED; GIVEN IMMEDIATE EFFECT ROLL CALL # 6 YEAS 38 NAYS 0 EXCUSED 0 NOT VOTING 0
1/23/2014 Expected in HJ 8 returned from Senate with substitute S-1 with immediate effect
1/23/2014 Expected in HJ 8 laid over one day under the rules


After the Senate passing this piece of crap, the House better make a positive move on SB 610.

[luckless]

And they all passed:



After the Senate passing this piece of crap, the House better make a positive move on SB 610.
You are too easy to please.

[Roundballer]

You are too easy to please.
Not really pleased at all. But that is the way it works over there on many things. "Here Senate, pass this." "Well we can work with you, how about getting this one though on your side."

[Leader]

Not really pleased at all. But that is the way it works over there on many things. "Here Senate, pass this." "Well we can work with you, how about getting this one though on your side."


And just what is waiting in the wings for us to "get" in return for passing this totally unnecessary further restriction on the rights of the citizens of Michigan?

[luckless]

Not really pleased at all. But that is the way it works over there on many things. "Here Senate, pass this." "Well we can work with you, how about getting this one though on your side."
We were supposed to get "something" when they put CPL fingerprints in AFIS. The MSP was going to throw their support behind major gun rights legislation if MCRGO agreed to support the MSPs plan to treat every cpl holder as a suspect in every crime committed in the state. Still waiting on the good stuff we are supposed to get...


I have tried to find out who is lobbying for gun and knife control. My RINOs won't come clean, though. I don't believe they passed this to get pro gun votes, later. I think they sold US out to get opposition votes on something unrelated, earlier.

I feel like Charlie Brown depending on Lucy to hold the ball just one time. Next time this "Charlie Brown" runs at the ball I am going to kick "Lucy" instead of the ball. Anyone who supports this crap doesn't deserve our support at the ballot box.

[Tallbear]

HB 4715 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4715)
Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit. Amends sec. 224f of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224f).
Last Action: 1/23/2014 laid over one day under the rules
HB 4716 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4716)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 16m, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.16m). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 1/23/2014 laid over one day under the rules
HB 4717 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4717)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update. Amends sec. 4 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.424). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 1/23/2014 laid over one day under the rules

[Tallbear]

HB 4715 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4715)
Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit. Amends sec. 224f of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224f).
Last Action: 1/28/2014 bill ordered enrolled
HB 4716 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4716)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 16m, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.16m). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 1/28/2014 bill ordered enrolled
HB 4717 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4717)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update. Amends sec. 4 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.424). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 1/28/2014 bill ordered enrolled

[luckless]

We need to learn why these gun control lobbiests are so much more effective with the republicans than we are.

[Tallbear]

HB 4715 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4715)
Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit. Amends sec. 224f of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224f).
Last Action: 1/28/2014 bill ordered enrolled
HB 4716 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4716)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 16m, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.16m). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 1/28/2014 bill ordered enrolled
HB 4717 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4717)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update. Amends sec. 4 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.424). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 1/28/2014 bill ordered enrolled

[Tallbear]

HB 4715 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4715)
Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit. Amends sec. 224f of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224f).
Last Action: 1/30/2014 presented to the Governor 1/30/2014 @ 12:24 PM
HB 4716 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4716)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 16m, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.16m). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 1/30/2014 presented to the Governor 1/30/2014 @ 12:26 PM
HB 4717 of 2013 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4717)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update. Amends sec. 4 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.424). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 1/30/2014 presented to the Governor 1/30/2014 @ 12:28 PM

[RDak]

We need to learn why these gun control lobbiests are so much more effective with the republicans than we are.

This is a good question IMHO.

[Tallbear]

HB 4715 of 2013 (PA 04 of 2014) (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4715)
Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit. Amends sec. 224f of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224f).
Last Action: 2/12/2014 assigned PA 04'14 with immediate effect
HB 4716 of 2013 (PA 05 of 2014) (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4716)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 16m, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.16m). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 2/12/2014 assigned PA 05'14 with immediate effect
HB 4717 of 2013 (PA 06 of 2014) (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4717)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update. Amends sec. 4 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.424). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 2/12/2014 assigned PA 06'14 with immediate effect

[plumbum]

Can someone clarify for me. So did one of these pass that prohibits a felon from owning any firearm ammunition?

[luckless]

It all passed.

[Leader]

Can someone clarify for me. So did one of these pass that prohibits a felon from owning any firearm ammunition?

It all passed and you can sleep well tonight.
You now know that when that felon down the street from you steals his next gun he won't be able to buy ammo for it because it is against the law for him to have any.

[plumbum]

Exactly! :) lol I feel safer already.

[Tallbear]

HB 4716 of 2013 (PA 05 of 2014) (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4716)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 16m, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.16m). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 2/25/2014 Analysis File Added
HB 4717 of 2013 (PA 06 of 2014) (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-HB-4717)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update. Amends sec. 4 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.424). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 2/25/2014 Analysis File Added

[DRSpaulding]

A week or so ago I was in Dundee Cabelas. As I was looking at primers I noticed a guy fingering the ammo. He was a felon. As soon as he seen me his eyes got huge. I started talking about the prices and he said "Thats all over for me". He walked around the corner, got his friend and they made a B-line to the exit. A felon looking for ammo means he has access to a gun. I see straw purchases and MORE useless legislation on the horizon.

[oldskoolford427]

I was buying ammo 35 years ago and I don't remember ever having to sign for ammo.
You were to sign for handgun ammo!

[Tallbear]

HB 4715 of 2013 (PA 04 of 2014)
Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit. Amends sec. 224f of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224f).
Last Action: 2/12/2014 assigned PA 04'14 with immediate effect

[luckless]

I feel SO much safer, now.

[Tallbear]

HB 4715 of 2013 (PA 04 of 2014)
Weapons; ammunition; possession of ammunition by certain individuals; prohibit. Amends sec. 224f of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224f).
Last Action: 7/3/2014 Analysis File Added

HB 4716 of 2013 (PA 05 of 2014)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 16m, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.16m). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 7/3/2014 Analysis File Added

HB 4717 of 2013 (PA 06 of 2014)
Weapons; ammunition; reference in 1927 PA 372; update. Amends sec. 4 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.424). TIE BAR WITH: HB 4715'13
Last Action: 7/3/2014 Analysis File Added