View Full Version : DNR, others release 18,500 sturgeon in north Michigan
MI-1911
07-03-2013, 04:53 AM
DNR, others release 18,500 sturgeon in north Michigan
http://www.freep.com/article/20130702/NEWS06/307020116/Sturgeon-Black-River-Michigan
Cool, now they'll have more to spear on Black Lake
mtnbikinbryno
07-03-2013, 10:44 PM
Cool, now they'll have more to spear on Black Lake
That's what I don't get. If you are trying to rebound the population of sturgeon why is spearing or any taking allowed at all?
nate132004
07-05-2013, 10:18 PM
Money. It's a vicious circle.
Ruger
07-06-2013, 11:05 AM
"Locations stocked Monday include the Sturgeon River, a Burt Lake tributary; the Pigeon River, a Mullett Lake tributary; the Maple River, a Burt Lake tributary; and Otsego Lake."
I can't get the DNR to even consider stocking Crappies in our lake that now is all but fished out. Before they added a public access to our lake the fishing was good to great at times. Slobs that keep a bucket full of bluegills that are less then 4 or 5 inches long have taken their toll on this once great place. Amish kids, sometimes 5 or 6 of them in a small boat keep everything they catch and the DNR are never around to check their catch but they sure as hell are there when the loons come on to nest....
nate132004
07-07-2013, 12:17 AM
Haha ^ so true and so sad. Don't go near those loons!
MSUICEMAN
07-09-2013, 06:46 AM
That's what I don't get. If you are trying to rebound the population of sturgeon why is spearing or any taking allowed at all?
Partially because its customary, partially money. Its also pretty ruthlessly controlled as far as numbers.
Sometimes its worth it to keep customs alive, especially when it has a negligible effect on populations. Without customs we start losing our connections with the past.
Question: why should we allow fishing at all because it could effect fish populations? Thats not too far of an extrapolation of your point.
Recreational fishing (including spearing, "dipping", etc) doesn't have a large adverse effect on fishing populations, and helps fund projects such as these to not only keep populations strong, but try to expand/correct imbalances, or reintroduction of species where they have been decimated/eraticated.
pkuptruck
07-09-2013, 08:00 AM
Partially because its customary, partially money. Its also pretty ruthlessly controlled as far as numbers.
Sometimes its worth it to keep customs alive, especially when it has a negligible effect on populations. Without customs we start losing our connections with the past.
Question: why should we allow fishing at all because it could effect fish populations? Thats not too far of an extrapolation of your point.
Recreational fishing (including spearing, "dipping", etc) doesn't have a large adverse effect on fishing populations, and helps fund projects such as these to not only keep populations strong, but try to expand/correct imbalances, or reintroduction of species where they have been decimated/eraticated.
this would be really funny, if it were true..
the DNR is no longer about anything more than money. More for its dept. PEriOD.
it might be more believable if it werent for
- youth hunts
- early and late doe slaughters
- QDM... er, APR
- etc..
Partially because its customary, partially money. Its also pretty ruthlessly controlled as far as numbers.
Sometimes its worth it to keep customs alive, especially when it has a negligible effect on populations. Without customs we start losing our connections with the past.
Question: why should we allow fishing at all because it could effect fish populations? Thats not too far of an extrapolation of your point.
Recreational fishing (including spearing, "dipping", etc) doesn't have a large adverse effect on fishing populations, and helps fund projects such as these to not only keep populations strong, but try to expand/correct imbalances, or reintroduction of species where they have been decimated/eraticated.
Poaching is also a custom around Black Lake, with the tradition being passed on from generation to generation.
MSUICEMAN
07-09-2013, 08:52 AM
Poaching is also a custom around Black Lake, with the tradition being passed on from generation to generation.
which is also illegal. so banning legal things because people do illegal things with the resource/equipment..... sorta sounds like an idea some people have about a certain thing we all do (on topic with this forum).
bad people do bad things. ban spearing and they will continue to poach. criminals do what again? oh yeah, crimes.
there is a large poaching ring of sturgeon in the st. clair river. whenever i see them doing something unethical/illegal, I call the RAP line. it shouldn't mean that people legally fishing for them should have to quit doing what they are doing.
i'm not saying i agree with everything the DNR has done... some of it was pretty short-sighted, but banning the highly controlled spearing of sturgeon in one waterway seems pretty short-sighted also with little/no gain.
which is also illegal. so banning legal things because people do illegal things with the resource/equipment..... sorta sounds like an idea some people have about a certain thing we all do (on topic with this forum).
bad people do bad things. ban spearing and they will continue to poach. criminals do what again? oh yeah, crimes.
there is a large poaching ring of sturgeon in the st. clair river. whenever i see them doing something unethical/illegal, I call the RAP line. it shouldn't mean that people legally fishing for them should have to quit doing what they are doing.
i'm not saying i agree with everything the DNR has done... some of it was pretty short-sighted, but banning the highly controlled spearing of sturgeon in one waterway seems pretty short-sighted also with little/no gain.
In front of Johnny Lega's bar is where the foundry used to dump cinders. The sturgeon find in nice to drop their eggs around the first 90 degree weather, usually in June.:thumbup:
Ironicially the same folks poaching sturgeon, deer, and perch around Onaway are the same ones doing it in SE Michigan.
There is a Billy The Kid, and Wild Bill Hickock mentality involved.
MSUICEMAN
07-09-2013, 12:20 PM
In front of Johnny Lega's bar is where the foundry used to dump cinders. The sturgeon find in nice to drop their eggs around the first 90 degree weather, usually in June.:thumbup:
Ironicially the same folks poaching sturgeon, deer, and perch around Onaway are the same ones doing it in SE Michigan.
There is a Billy The Kid, and Wild Bill Hickock mentality involved.
Sad state of affairs, ain't it? People are really lacking character.
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