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Tallbear
12-28-2013, 10:42 AM
SB 0094 of 2013 (PA 0228 of 2013) (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2013-SB-0094)
Military affairs; other; restriction of activities by Michigan national guard and state and local employees; provide for under certain circumstances. Creates new act.
Last Action: ASSIGNED PA 0228'13 WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT

Walther
12-28-2013, 10:58 AM
So, does anyone know what section 1021 of the national defense authorization act for fiscal year 2012 says? To what does it refer?

Tallbear
12-28-2013, 11:08 AM
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AutuSxkYuLhrUNPHxfiAwT.vulI6?p=Michiga n+nullifies+NDAA%E2%80%99s+indefinite+detention&type=2button&fr=ush-mailn_02

koomzie
12-31-2013, 02:12 PM
This is the indefinite [ military] detention with out due process of law afforded by the Constitution of Americans [citizens] the NDAA 2012 sec. 1021-1022 allows the federal govt. to detain indefinitely/perminately American citizens, on us soil or abroad [as possible terrorists / enemy combatants ] without due process of law ,with out a criminal charge being filed, on the word of a fed agent/leo/military official in the 2014 version they change the wording to detaining anyone [US citizens] considered a " belligerent" later in the bill it also authorizes termination of citzens if detention is not an option such as hard to apprehend, just google, ndaa indefinite detention or ndaa 1021, ndaa 2014 and big shock Sen. Carl Levin of MI is the main sponsor of this bill as ranking member/chairman of the Armed services comm. there are a lot more horrors in the NDAA as well check it out as well as Executive order 13603 just signed by the President

esq_stu
12-31-2013, 02:31 PM
So assuming the State agrees that your arrest and detention and incarceration by the US military would violate, say, the 4th and 5th amendments, the State won't help the military throw you in Gitmo or anything like Gitmo when you are accused of aiding the Taliban or Al Qaeda, "Detention under the law of war without trial until the end of the hostilities authorized by the Authorization for Use of Military Force." Sounds like forever, to me.

Might make someone in the state legislature feel good but not worth the paper it's written on, IMO.

LibertyComrade
01-03-2014, 05:01 PM
So assuming the State agrees that your arrest and detention and incarceration by the US military would violate, say, the 4th and 5th amendments, the State won't help the military throw you in Gitmo or anything like Gitmo when you are accused of aiding the Taliban or Al Qaeda, "Detention under the law of war without trial until the end of the hostilities authorized by the Authorization for Use of Military Force." Sounds like forever, to me.

Might make someone in the state legislature feel good but not worth the paper it's written on, IMO.

It's primarily symbolic, to be sure. However, symbolism has a power all it's own.

But yes, as has been stated, section 1021 of the NDAA refers to indefinite detention provisions without due process of law that could apply to U.S. citizens. This bill is a "nullification" of that federal law in such that it lays out that essentially the State's enforcement agencies cannot aid the federal government in enforcing this provision of federal law.