HB 4159 Allow in PFZ

[Tallbear]

HB 4159 of 2015
Weapons; licensing; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include certain corrections, probation, and parole officers. Amends sec. 5o of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.425o).
Last Action: 2/5/2015 referred to Committee on Judiciary

[G36 Shooter]

Another special class?

[Roundballer]

Another special class?

Yep, adding to a couple of groups:

2015-HB-4159 (http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?2015-HB-4159)


(d) An individual who is licensed under this act and who is a corrections officer of a county sheriff's department or who is licensed under this act and is a retired corrections officer of a county sheriff's department. The concealed weapon licensing board may require a letter from the county sheriff's department stating that the retired corrections officer retired in good standing.

AND:


(h) An individual who is licensed under this act and who is a parole or probation officer of the department of corrections.any of the following:


(i) A parole, probation, or corrections officer or absconder recovery unit member of the department of corrections.

(ii) A retired parole, probation, or corrections officer or retired absconder recovery unit member of the department of corrections. The concealed weapon licensing board may require a letter from the department of corrections stating that the retired parole, probation, or corrections officer or retired absconder recovery unit member retired in good standing.

These need to get lumped together with the others and all dumped in the trash, crap bill.

[Tallbear]

DATE: Tuesday, February 10, 2015

TIME: 12:00 PM

PLACE: Room 521, House Office Building, Lansing, MI

AGENDA:
Testimony only:

HB 4076 (Rep. Rendon) Weapons; firearms; reference to certain repealed definition in the penal code; eliminate.

HB 4151 (Rep. Pettalia) Weapons; firearms; 1959 PA 186; repeal.

HB 4152 (Rep. Sheppard) Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in MCL 8.3t; modify.

HB 4153 (Rep. Franz) Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in MCL 752.841; modify.

HB 4154 (Rep. Brett Roberts) Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in natural resources and environmental protection act; modify.

HB 4155 (Rep. Cole) Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in the Michigan penal code; modify.

HB 4156 (Rep. Barrett) Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in 1927 PA 372; modify.

HB 4159 (Rep. Johnson) Weapons; licensing; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include certain corrections, probation, and parole officers.

HB 4160 (Rep. Johnson) Weapons; other; brandishing a firearm; exempt certain actions.

HB 4161 (Rep. Hughes) Weapons; other; definition of brandish; provide for.

SB 34 (Sen. Green) Weapons; licensing; concealed pistol licensing boards; eliminate, and transfer duties to the department of state police and county clerks.

SB 35 (Sen. Green) Criminal procedure; sentencing guidelines; reference in sentencing guidelines; update.

[Tallbear]

HB 4159 of 2015
Weapons; licensing; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include certain corrections, probation, and parole officers. Amends sec. 5o of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.425o).
Last Action: 2/9/2015 Analysis File Added

[dmd7765]

I am opposed to special classes, get rid of PFZ's completely!!

[bigt8261]

MOC is opposing this bill too.

http://us4.campaign-archive2.com/?u=710075bba75b914b805e1861a&id=90f74bf599

[Tallbear]

DATE: Tuesday, February 17, 2015

TIME: 12:00 PM

PLACE: Room 521, House Office Building, Lansing, MI

AGENDA:
HB 4159 (Rep. Johnson) Weapons; licensing; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include certain corrections, probation, and parole officers.

HB 4160 (Rep. Johnson) Weapons; other; brandishing a firearm; exempt certain actions.

HB 4161 (Rep. Hughes) Weapons; other; definition of brandish; provide for.

HB 4076 (Rep. Rendon) Weapons; firearms; reference to certain repealed definition in the penal code; eliminate.

HB 4151 (Rep. Pettalia) Weapons; firearms; 1959 PA 186; repeal.

HB 4152 (Rep. Sheppard) Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in MCL 8.3t; modify.

HB 4153 (Rep. Franz) Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in MCL 752.841; modify.

HB 4154 (Rep. Brett Roberts) Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in natural resources and environmental protection act; modify.

HB 4155 (Rep. Cole) Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in the Michigan penal code; modify.

HB 4156 (Rep. Barrett) Weapons; firearms; definition of firearm in 1927 PA 372; modify.

SB 34 (Sen. Green) Weapons; licensing; concealed pistol licensing boards; eliminate, and transfer duties to the department of state police and county clerks.

SB 35 (Sen. Green) Criminal procedure; sentencing guidelines; reference in sentencing guidelines; update.

[Tallbear]

HB 4159 of 2015
Weapons; licensing; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include certain corrections, probation, and parole officers. Amends sec. 5o of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.425o).
Last Action: 2/26/2015 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY

[dmd7765]

The BOD of Michigan Gun Owners has sent a letter to the House Judiciary Committee in opposition to any more special carve outs in PFZ's, The committee is meeting next Tuesday at Noon, I would encourage any members that can make time to be there to oppose SB 53. PFZ's need to end, they do not stop crime.

[Tallbear]

DATE: Tuesday, June 9, 2015



TIME: 3:30 p.m.



PLACE: Room 110, Farnum Building, 125 W. Allegan Street, Lansing, MI 48933



PHONE: Corey Woodby (517) 373-1721

Committee Clerk



AGENDA



HB 4463 Rep. Heise Criminal procedure; sentencing guidelines; offense variable for crime of aggravated physical abuse; modify.



SB 332 Sen. Jones Liquor; drinking age; penalties for minor in possession (MIP); modify.



SB 333 Sen. Jones Traffic control; driver license; suspension of driver license after third minor in possession offense; provide for.





Testimony only



HB 4159 Rep. Johnson Weapons; licensing; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include certain corrections, probation, and parole officers.

[doesch]

If they can do it for some there is no reason they can’t do it for everyone, same for reduced or free permits. ALL citizens need to be equal under the law, not a tough concept to grasp unless you are in Lansing.

[EricF517]

They just need to end PFZ's completely.

[Rod M1]

They just need to end PFZ's completely.

I agree! But the way they are going everyone will be exempt eventually. How a bought a special class for everyone with a drivers license. Then have one for State ID maybe everyone over 18 LOL.

[Tallbear]

HB 4159 of 2015
Weapons; licensing; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include certain corrections, probation, and parole officers. Amends sec. 5o of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.425o).
Last Action: 6/9/2015 Analysis File Added

[Tallbear]

DATE: Tuesday, June 16, 2015



TIME: 3:30 p.m.



PLACE: Room 110,


PHONE: Corey Woodby (517) 373-1721

Committee Clerk



AGENDA



HB 4159 Rep. Johnson Weapons; licensing; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include certain corrections, probation, and parole officers.



SB 225 Sen. Shirkey Weapons; firearms; purchase of guns or ammunition; prohibit gun sellers and federally licensed firearms dealers from creating a visual representation of an individual who purchases a firearm or ammunition or linking such a visual representation to an individual under certain circumstances and eliminate pistol database entry.



SB 226 Sen. Shirkey Weapons; firearms; sentencing guidelines; update.



SB 340 Sen. Bieda Crimes; penalties; penalties for selling tobacco product to minor; increase.



SB 384 Sen. MacGregor Human services; other; inspector general within the department of health and human services to appoint agents with limited arrest powers and the powers conferred on peace officers; allow.



SB 385 Sen. Jones Weapons; other; certain agents of the state department of health and human services office of inspector general; exempt from certain weapons prohibitions.



SB 386 Sen. Casperson Traffic control; violations; prohibition on courts taking under advisement certain offenses committed by a person while operating a commercial motor vehicle or a person licensed to operate a commercial motor vehicle while operating a noncommercial motor vehicle; reinstate.

[Tallbear]

DATE: Tuesday, September 29, 2015



TIME: 3:00 p.m.



PLACE: Room 110, Farnum Building, 125 W. Allegan Street, Lansing, MI 48933



PHONE: Corey Woodby (517) 373-1721

Committee Clerk





AGENDA



HB 4159 Rep. Johnson Weapons; licensing; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include certain corrections, probation, and parole officers.



SB 516 Sen. Jones Weapons; licensing; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include certain corrections, probation, and parole officers.



SB 445 Sen. Kowall Local government; other; sanctuary policy prohibition act; create.



SB 409 Sen. O'Brien Crimes; controlled substances; attempt to solicit another person to purchase ephedrine or pseudoephedrine for purpose of manufacturing methamphetamine; prohibit, and provide penalties.



SB 410 Sen. Casperson Criminal procedure; sentencing guidelines; sentencing guidelines for crime of attempting to solicit another person to obtain ephedrine or pseudoephedrine; revise to reflect.



SB 424 Sen. Casperson Crimes; controlled substances; penalties for manufacture of methamphetamine near a school or library; increase.



SR 75 Sen. Johnson A resolution recognizing June 19, 2015, as Juneteenth.

[bigt8261]

Your help is needed to stop more carve-outs. By my count HB 4159 and SB 516 enumerate at least 9 more special classes.

http://us4.campaign-archive2.com/?u=710075bba75b914b805e1861a&id=b4a4ce2149&e=5419d26fa1

[bigt8261]

UPDATE

A revised Senate Judiciary Committee agenda just came out. SB 516 and HB 4159 are no longer on the agenda.

I'm not sure what to make of this yet. It could be the sponsors wanted more time, or it could be that the calls had an effect. It also could be a dirty trick by the committee chair. He has been known to use them in the past (http://www.michiganopencarry.org/news/2015/02/Rick-Jones-On-Facebook).

Either way, I have other scheduled business in Lansing today and will still be at the hearing just in case.

[Tallbear]

DATE: Tuesday, October 6, 2015



TIME: 3:00 p.m.



PLACE: Room 110, Farnum Building, 125 W. Allegan Street, Lansing, MI 48933



PHONE: Corey Woodby (517) 373-1721

Committee Clerk





AGENDA



HB 4159 Rep. Johnson Weapons; licensing; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include certain corrections, probation, and parole officers.



SB 516 Sen. Jones Weapons; licensing; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include certain corrections, probation, and parole officers.



SB 174 Sen. Schuitmaker Businesses; other; ignition interlock servicing center to be included within the definition of motor vehicle repair facility; revise motor vehicle service and repair act to provide.



SB 175 Sen. Schuitmaker Criminal procedure; sentencing guidelines; guidelines for crime of knowingly providing false information concerning an ignition interlock device; revise.



SB 176 Sen. Schuitmaker Crimes; intoxication or impairment; oversight for ignition interlock servicing centers; provide for department of state.



SB 357 Sen. Schuitmaker Occupations; vehicles, dealers and repair facilities; breath alcohol ignition interlock mechanics and servicers; include in motor vehicle service and repair act.



SB 434 Sen. Casperson Law enforcement; investigations; pilot program to use preliminary drug testing at roadside stop; create.



SB 207 Sen. Jones Crimes; intoxication or impairment; operating a motor vehicle under the influence of alcohol or a controlled substance, or both; amend certain definitions and procedures.



SB 531 Sen. Jones Courts; other; electronic filing system; authorize the state court administrative office to establish.



SB 532 Sen. Proos Courts; other; judicial electronic filing fund; establish.



SB 533 Sen. Schuitmaker Courts; other; electronic access to courts; allow court or court funding unit to charge certain fees.

[bigt8261]

Help needed to fight these carve-outs again. How to help in the link.

http://us4.campaign-archive1.com/?u=710075bba75b914b805e1861a&id=0e64499268&e=5419d26fa1

[Tallbear]

HB 4159 of 2015
Weapons; licensing; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include certain corrections, probation, and parole officers. Amends sec. 5o of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.425o).
Last Action: 10/8/2015 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WITH SUBSTITUTE S-4

[Tallbear]

HB 4159 of 2015
Weapons; licensing; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include certain corrections, probation, and parole officers. Amends sec. 5o of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.425o).
Last Action: 11/10/2015 bill ordered enrolled

[luckless]

I sure am looking forward to the next election.

[Tallbear]

HB 4159 of 2015
Weapons; licensing; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include certain corrections, probation, and parole officers. Amends sec. 5o of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.425o).
Last Action: 12/1/2015 presented to the Governor 11/23/2015 @ 1:36 PM

[G36 Shooter]

Call made to Snyders office to VETO.

[JasonJ]

I do believe I heard on the news radio this morning that Snyder signed this (just looked it up, yes, SIGNED by SNYDER at 12:58pm yesterday, the 30th).

I don't get it... they "say" it is so corrections officers can protect themselves. OK, why cant the rest of us? I would LOVE to see actual, factual data indicating that CORRECTIONS OFFICERS are more vulnerable or at higher risk than anyone else while inside a school, church, daycare facility, theater, etc... When is the last time someone inside a school or church identified someone as a Corrections Officer and decided to do them harm? Even if wearing their uniform...

I fail to see how, in this case, those who are now excluded from the PFZ's are more entitled to protect their lives, than the rest of us. I hate this whole "add new protected classes of citizen" BS. I'm slightly torn in some ways, as I can understand and see how Judges, maybe court officers, and similar could be at higher risk, especially if they are a known public figure (I would recognize exactly ONE Judge from my County if I saw him on the street, and that is only because I went to school with his daughter and he is blind with a service dog... kinda obvious).

But Private Investigators? Really? They went into that profession on their own... knowing the risks.. other than a Criminal Justice background, or perhaps being a retired attorney, they aren't specifically any different than the rest of us normal citizens. In fact, if anything, they'd be more inconspicuous.

[Tallbear]

HB 4159 of 2015 (PA 206 of 2015)
Weapons; licensing; waiver for certain individuals to carry weapon in weapon-free zones; expand to include certain corrections, probation, and parole officers. Amends sec. 5o of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.425o).
Last Action: 12/1/2015 assigned PA 206'15 with immediate effect

[Leader]

I do believe I heard on the news radio this morning that Snyder signed this (just looked it up, yes, SIGNED by SNYDER at 12:58pm yesterday, the 30th).

I don't get it... they "say" it is so corrections officers can protect themselves. OK, why cant the rest of us? I would LOVE to see actual, factual data indicating that CORRECTIONS OFFICERS are more vulnerable or at higher risk than anyone else while inside a school, church, daycare facility, theater, etc... When is the last time someone inside a school or church identified someone as a Corrections Officer and decided to do them harm? Even if wearing their uniform...

I fail to see how, in this case, those who are now excluded from the PFZ's are more entitled to protect their lives, than the rest of us. I hate this whole "add new protected classes of citizen" BS. I'm slightly torn in some ways, as I can understand and see how Judges, maybe court officers, and similar could be at higher risk, especially if they are a known public figure (I would recognize exactly ONE Judge from my County if I saw him on the street, and that is only because I went to school with his daughter and he is blind with a service dog... kinda obvious).

But Private Investigators? Really? They went into that profession on their own... knowing the risks.. other than a Criminal Justice background, or perhaps being a retired attorney, they aren't specifically any different than the rest of us normal citizens. In fact, if anything, they'd be more inconspicuous.

Could you point out the last time (or anytime) that a Judge was shot in a K-12 school?
Or even in a sports stadium.

More private citizens have been shot in PFZ's then all the exempted classes put together.
WE need the right & ability to protect ourselves more then they do.

[partdeux]

Could you point out the last time (or anytime) that a Judge was shot in a K-12 school?
Or even in a sports stadium.

More private citizens have been shot in PFZ's then all the exempted classes put together.
WE need the right & ability to protect ourselves more then they do.

ppfftttt, you're just a peasant.

[G36 Shooter]

Oh don't worry we're next on the list, when pigs fly.

[JasonJ]

Could you point out the last time (or anytime) that a Judge was shot in a K-12 school?
Or even in a sports stadium.

More private citizens have been shot in PFZ's then all the exempted classes put together.
WE need the right & ability to protect ourselves more then they do.

That's exactly my point as well... I guess I was just willing to give an inch.. but the more I think about this... there should not be ANY protected classes of citizen when it comes to 2nd Amendment rights, not even LEO's!!!

We are all human, equally as vulnerable to death by gunshot... and if anything, recent mass shootings should prove that it is the private, everyday citizen who needs to be armed to protect themselves, moreso than an off-duty policeman or a disliked Judge.

[G36 Shooter]

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