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The Tackman
01-09-2009, 12:18 PM
Call Rep. McCotter and emplore him to get on this bill as a co-sponsor.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.17:


H. R. 17
To protect the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms in defense of self, family, or home, and to provide for the enforcement of such right.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

January 6, 2009
Mr. BARTLETT introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary


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A BILL
To protect the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms in defense of self, family, or home, and to provide for the enforcement of such right.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2009'.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

The Congress finds the following:

(1) Police cannot protect, and are not legally liable for failing to protect, individual citizens, as evidenced by the following:

(A) The courts have consistently ruled that the police do not have an obligation to protect individuals, only the public in general. For example, in Warren v. District of Columbia Metropolitan Police Department, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. App. 1981), the court stated: `[C]ourts have without exception concluded that when a municipality or other governmental entity undertakes to furnish police services, it assumes a duty only to the public at large and not to individual members of the community.'.

(B) Former Florida Attorney General Jim Smith told Florida legislators that police responded to only 200,000 of 700,000 calls for help to Dade County authorities.

(C) The United States Department of Justice found that, in 1989, there were 168,881 crimes of violence for which police had not responded within 1 hour.

(2) Citizens frequently must use firearms to defend themselves, as evidenced by the following:

(A) Every year, more than 2,400,000 people in the United States use a gun to defend themselves against criminals--or more than 6,500 people a day. This means that, each year, firearms are used 60 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives.

(B) Of the 2,400,000 self-defense cases, more than 192,000 are by women defending themselves against sexual abuse.

(C) Of the 2,400,000 times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, 92 percent merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8 percent of the time, does a citizen kill or wound his or her attacker.

(3) Law-abiding citizens, seeking only to provide for their families' defense, are routinely prosecuted for brandishing or using a firearm in self-defense. For example:

(A) In 1986, Don Bennett of Oak Park, Illinois, was shot at by 2 men who had just stolen $1,200 in cash and jewelry from his suburban Chicago service station. The police arrested Bennett for violating Oak Park's handgun ban. The police never caught the actual criminals.

(B) Ronald Biggs, a resident of Goldsboro, North Carolina, was arrested for shooting an intruder in 1990. Four men broke into Biggs' residence one night, ransacked the home and then assaulted him with a baseball bat. When Biggs attempted to escape through the back door, the group chased him and Biggs turned and shot one of the assailants in the stomach. Biggs was arrested and charged with assault with a deadly weapon--a felony. His assailants were charged with misdemeanors.

(C) Don Campbell of Port Huron, Michigan, was arrested, jailed, and criminally charged after he shot a criminal assailant in 1991. The thief had broken into Campbell's store and attacked him. The prosecutor plea-bargained with the assailant and planned to use him to testify against Campbell for felonious use of a firearm. Only after intense community pressure did the prosecutor finally drop the charges.

(4) The courts have granted immunity from prosecution to police officers who use firearms in the line of duty. Similarly, law-abiding citizens who use firearms to protect themselves, their families, and their homes against violent felons should not be subject to lawsuits by the violent felons who sought to victimize them.

SEC. 3. RIGHT TO OBTAIN FIREARMS FOR SECURITY, AND TO USE FIREARMS IN DEFENSE OF SELF, FAMILY, OR HOME; ENFORCEMENT.

(a) Reaffirmation of Right- A person not prohibited from receiving a firearm by Section 922(g) of title 18, United States Code, shall have the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms--

(1) in defense of self or family against a reasonably perceived threat of imminent and unlawful infliction of serious bodily injury;

(2) in defense of self or family in the course of the commission by another person of a violent felony against the person or a member of the person's family; and

(3) in defense of the person's home in the course of the commission of a felony by another person.

(b) Firearm Defined- As used in subsection (a), the term `firearm' means--

(1) a shotgun (as defined in section 921(a)(5) of title 18, United States Code);

(2) a rifle (as defined in section 921(a)(7) of title 18, United States Code); or

(3) a handgun (as defined in section 10 of Public Law 99-408).

(c) Enforcement of Right-

(1) IN GENERAL- A person whose right under subsection (a) is violated in any manner may bring an action in any United States district court against the United States, any State, or any person for damages, injunctive relief, and such other relief as the court deems appropriate.

(2) AUTHORITY TO AWARD A REASONABLE ATTORNEY'S FEE- In an action brought under paragraph (1), the court, in its discretion, may allow the prevailing plaintiff a reasonable attorney's fee as part of the costs.

(3) STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS- An action may not be brought under paragraph (1) after the 5-year period that begins with the date the violation described in paragraph (1) is discovered.

Tallbear
01-09-2009, 12:22 PM
"STICKY".........

Let's keep this on top for a while.

pbnationrc
01-09-2009, 03:02 PM
I guess I don't quit get it. We already have this don't we? Or is this for all America, not just Michigan? That would be nice, if us michiganers travel to places like Chicago. I know I'm there for business, so is my dad.

johnzilla
01-09-2009, 06:35 PM
I don't get it either.

There's nothing at all in there about regulation.

So, a government could agree that an individual has a right to obtain firearms for security, but simply make doing so so onerous and difficult that nobody in their right mind would endure the process or the cost to do it.

How is this a step forward from the current state of affairs? The Heller decision already reaffirms the individual right, doesn't it?

dominus
01-13-2009, 11:43 AM
It looks more like naming a law on a set of rights we already have. We've got the castle doctrine, and we're a shall issue state.. depending on what city you live in, it's easy enough to get a handgun permit. (If you have a problem, you need to take it up with the city.)

It looks more like something that needs to go into effect in Chicago, NYC, California, Massachusetts, etc..

Tallbear
01-13-2009, 11:59 AM
It looks more like something that needs to go into effect in Chicago, NYC, California, Massachusetts, etc..

With this being introduced in Washington it would apply to these areas.

esq_stu
01-13-2009, 12:54 PM
I do like the concept, in theory.

I would want to compare the language to other Federal laws meant to protect individual rights that would be infringed upon by states. Were they successfully used to overcome state and local laws? I'd like to know if the proposed legislation has a snowball's chance of working, even if it could get passed. Somehow, I have my doubts.

firefox
01-13-2009, 04:00 PM
might work might not, it opens the door for lawsuits against municipal or state governments who want to step on the second amendment. Even if it doesnt work it is a shot across the bow for gun banners at the very begining of the session a good sign in my book.

RyanK
01-15-2009, 12:33 PM
Its all about "reaffirmation". Kind of like how we should have a bill "reaffirming" Posse Comitatus.

EIB1994
03-15-2009, 12:44 PM
I think that the more the socialist want to "evolve the constitution", the more we need wording to reaffirm our rights. It is one more layer they have to remove to take away those rights.
LIBERTY OR DEATH

hogfarmer223
09-30-2009, 03:55 PM
Its all about "reaffirmation". Kind of like how we should have a bill "reaffirming" Posse Comitatus.

Hell YEAH!

hogfarmer223
09-30-2009, 03:59 PM
I think that the more the socialist want to "evolve the constitution", the more we need wording to reaffirm our rights. It is one more layer they have to remove to take away those rights.
LIBERTY OR DEATH
Agreed! We pay 'em to be there. Might as well get something for it:yeahthat:

Pete
07-27-2010, 01:15 PM
This is either federal or from another state

who dat
07-28-2010, 09:34 AM
This is either federal or from another state
From the bill:


A BILL
To protect the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms in defense of self, family, or home, and to provide for the enforcement of such right.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2009'.

langenc
07-28-2010, 10:23 PM
Some politicos making some 'hay'.