HB 5996, 5997 Assault weapons ban

[Tallbear]

HB 5996 of 2016 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2016-HB-5996)
Weapons; firearms; assault weapon regulation act; enact. Creates new act.
Last Action: 11/9/2016 bill electronically reproduced 10/19/2016

HB 5997 of 2016 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2016-HB-5997)
Criminal procedure; sentencing guidelines; sentencing guidelines for violation of assault weapon regulation act; enact. Amends sec. 11b, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.11b). TIE BAR WITH: HB 5996'16
Last Action: 11/9/2016 bill electronically reproduced 10/19/2016

[hunterspirit]

11/9/2016 ?

[Roundballer]

11/9/2016 ?

Expected in HJ 70

[groucho 48]

They never give up.

[PhotoTom]

They never give up.

Nor should we...

[OTG1958]

Nor should we...

^^^Agree 100%

[MichiGUNDer]

HB 5996 of 2016 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2016-HB-5996)
Weapons; firearms; assault weapon regulation act; enact. Creates new act.
Last Action: 11/9/2016 bill electronically reproduced 10/19/2016

HB 5997 of 2016 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2016-HB-5997)
Criminal procedure; sentencing guidelines; sentencing guidelines for violation of assault weapon regulation act; enact. Amends sec. 11b, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.11b). TIE BAR WITH: HB 5996'16
Last Action: 11/9/2016 bill electronically reproduced 10/19/2016



And also:
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(ngaqocqhha2umla3e0sg2kwo))/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2016-HB-5998
- Weapons; ammunition; reporting requirements for stolen ammunition; mandate. Amends sec. 10 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.430).
prohibit, and provide penalties. Amends sec. 223 of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.223).

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(ngaqocqhha2umla3e0sg2kwo))/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2016-HB-5999
- Crimes; weapons; purchasing or attempting to purchase firearm with intent to furnish that firearm to a minor or any other individual who is prohibited from having a firearm; prohibit, and provide penalties. Amends sec. 223 of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.223).

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(ngaqocqhha2umla3e0sg2kwo))/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2016-HB-6000
- Criminal procedure; sentencing guidelines; sentencing guidelines for crime of purchasing firearm with intent to distribute or distributing firearm to minor or other unqualified person; enact. Amends sec. 16m, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.16m). TIE BAR WITH: HB 5999'16, HB 5999'16

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(ngaqocqhha2umla3e0sg2kwo))/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2016-HB-6001
- Weapons; other; provision of ballistic identification to police before certain sales of handguns; require. Amends sec. 15 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.435).

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(ngaqocqhha2umla3e0sg2kwo))/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2016-HB-6002
- Criminal procedure; sentencing guidelines; sentencing guidelines; update. Amends sec. 11b, ch. XVII of 1927 PA 175 (MCL 777.11b). TIE BAR WITH: HB 6001'16

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(ngaqocqhha2umla3e0sg2kwo))/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2016-HB-6003
- Crimes; weapons; possessing an imitation firearm in a public place or altering an imitation firearm; prohibit, and provide penalties. Amends 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.1 - 750.568) by adding sec. 225.

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(ngaqocqhha2umla3e0sg2kwo))/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2016-HB-6004
- Crimes; weapons; brandishing of object that appears to be a firearm; prohibit, and increase penalties. Amends sec. 234e of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.234e).

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[MichiGUNDer]

Sorry, I now saw you had the other bills in different threads.

[Roundballer]

nvrmnd

[SomeGun]

Just got thru reading this:
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2015-2016/billintroduced/House/htm/2016-HIB-5996.htm
Where is this moron politician from? Male or female?

What is the general consensus?

[ryan2488]

Can anyone give any insight to this? Expected to pass? Do our current ARs get grandfathered in?

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[spacemanspiff]

Can anyone give any insight to this? Expected to pass? Do our current ARs get grandfathered in?

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Not under the current balance of power. We'll have to see if Republicans lose any State House seats in November. It's not likely because of the successful gerrymandering they've done, giving them a solid advantage in most state legislature districts. The problem is that they've made all the seats non-competitive, so there's little point in contacting my Democratic rep for example. His election in my district is a sure thing regardless of how he votes because this district has been mapped as one of the throwaway districts by Republicans.

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[spacemanspiff]

Just got thru reading this:
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2015-2016/billintroduced/House/htm/2016-HIB-5996.htm
Where is this moron politician from? Male or female?

What is the general consensus?
He's a young male from Oak Park. He'll have no problem getting reelected there if he keeps posturing like this.

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[Leader]

It really doesn't matter, once Hilary & co. get into office private ownership of guns will be eliminated within the next 16 years.

[MI redneck]

If I were to post whats on my mind, I'd probably catch a ban.

Instead I'll ask. What can we do to make sure this DOES NOT PASS?!?

[DP425]

This is almost certain to not pass. And if it did, there is a good chance it would get tossed in court- or at least parts of it... especially the fourth amendment violation on annual searches.

[RhinoDave]

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20161020/michigan-anti-gun-lawmakers-introduce-gun-and-magazine-ban-legislation

Click on the take action button and follow instructions.

[nmuskier]

Can anyone give any insight to this? Expected to pass? Do our current ARs get grandfathered in?

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As long as you register it with the MSP, properly store it IAW MSP guidelines, allow the MSP to inspect your storage facility annually, and renew your registration annually.
:rofl:

[DuRussel]

I'm surprised at how easy it was to follow that 'Take Action' link. Email sent. Funny thing is, the individual that it was just sent to, I met on a construction site Monday, he then took my parking spot too :laughing:

[71commander]

Unsure as it is from Ferndale.

[MI redneck]

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20161020/michigan-anti-gun-lawmakers-introduce-gun-and-magazine-ban-legislation

Click on the take action button and follow instructions.

Thanks for the link RhinoDave, E-mail sent!

Odd thing is. I tried twice to add some of my own text and got an "error" twice. Third time I sent it unedited with no problem. (???)

As long as you register it with the MSP, properly store it IAW MSP guidelines, allow the MSP to inspect your storage facility annually, and renew your registration annually.
:rofl:

Not to mention this is a confiscation scheme, as these firearms become nontransferable, and must be surrendered to the state upon your death. (Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but that's the way I read it.)

[LP560]

Complete irony
"Your communication will be sent to:
Rep. Robert Wittenberg (DEM)"

[Michiganman18]

This is getting old. Cant we just have rights that they dont try to interpret to take away?

[RDak]

This is getting old. Cant we just have rights that they dont try to interpret to take away?
No, they will never stop.

Email sent to my rep to stop this nonsense.

[JasonJ]

This proposed legislation is the biggest pile of excrement I've read in a while...

Cant have a semi-auto rifle AND handgun under your control at the same time, unless you are at a range, at a shooting event, or it is unloaded so you can permanently give possession and ownership to police. So much for carrying a standard cap pistol while out walking your property with your AR....

Registration of this so-called assault weapon, mandatory searches....I'm sure renewal of the registration won't be free, hence unfair taxation on a Constitutional right...yep, just read it, section 4(3)... impose a fee.

aaaannd it's a felony for violating any of this. It's a good thing that rifles aren't registered in MI.... at least they don't have a current list of owners, just the original purchaser.

This doesn't even address a current problem in our State... just another grab for power and control, and another step towards total disarmament. Good thing it's unlikely to pass.

[DEVIL DOG]

This proposal is dead !!! Not enough time for it to be considered. Could be re -introduced next session, but I doubt it will go anywhere.

[Double_Tap]

Emailed my representative for the 32nd District, and got a good response.

Thank you for taking the time to contact me and share your opposition to House Bill 5996 which would regulate assault rifles. I am a supporter of the Second Amendment and believe in the rights of a law abiding citizen to own and possess a firearm. I oppose any government action that attempts to take away the rights of responsible gun owners.

House Bill 5996 looks to regulate the manufacture, possession, purchase, sale, and transfer of assault weapons. The bill also allows for current owners to continue to own and possess their current firearms as long as registration and regulations are met. This bill is currently before the criminal justice committee, a committee I do not sit on. Should the bill come before me, I will keep your thoughts in mind on the issue. Again, thank you for sharing your views with me, and if you have any further questions or concerns please feel free to contact my office.

Sincerely,
Andrea LaFontaine

[Roundballer]

This proposal is dead !!! Not enough time for it to be considered. Could be re -introduced next session, but I doubt it will go anywhere.

This IS NOT DEAD, until legislature adjourns for this session and the bill is stuck in committee, "sine die".

We can not relax and just ignore it. Even though it is most likely to die in committee.

[MI redneck]

Emailed my representative for the 32nd District, and got a good response.

Thank you for taking the time to contact me and share your opposition to House Bill 5996 which would regulate assault rifles. I am a supporter of the Second Amendment and believe in the rights of a law abiding citizen to own and possess a firearm. I oppose any government action that attempts to take away the rights of responsible gun owners.

House Bill 5996 looks to regulate the manufacture, possession, purchase, sale, and transfer of assault weapons. The bill also allows for current owners to continue to own and possess their current firearms as long as registration and regulations are met. This bill is currently before the criminal justice committee, a committee I do not sit on. Should the bill come before me, I will keep your thoughts in mind on the issue. Again, thank you for sharing your views with me, and if you have any further questions or concerns please feel free to contact my office.

Sincerely,
Andrea LaFontaine

You call this a "good" response? :???:

[TylerV76]

You call this a "good" response? :???:

I thought the same thing. The 2nd paragraph seems to excuse the bill by saying "You can keep your guns, all you need to do is x, y and z".

[Double_Tap]

I think she is explaining what the bill attempts to do.
"I oppose any government action that attempts to take away the rights of responsible gun owners."

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[Leader]

I think she is explaining what the bill attempts to do.
"I oppose any government action that attempts to take away the rights of responsible gun owners."

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But not the ones that regulate safety to the general public.

[Roundballer]

You call this a "good" response? :???:


I thought the same thing. The 2nd paragraph seems to excuse the bill by saying "You can keep your guns, all you need to do is x, y and z".


I think she is explaining what the bill attempts to do.
"I oppose any government action that attempts to take away the rights of responsible gun owners."

The letter as a whole is a typical political response, very non-committal.

She does have a pretty good pro 2A voting record so far.

[TylerV76]

The letter as a whole is a typical political response, very non-committal.

She does have a pretty good pro 2A voting record so far.

Hopefully more and more people will contact their reps and these people will get the message. If you want to keep your job, stop allowing us to get screwed.


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[Double_Tap]

The letter as a whole is a typical political response, very non-committal.

She does have a pretty good pro 2A voting record so far.
Yes she does but is term limited. New blood next year.

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[Roundballer]

Yes she does but is term limited. New blood next year.

As far as THESE bills go, this is it. They will be "sine die" at the adjournment of legislature this year. So she is the one for that district at this time.

[71commander]

As far as THESE bills go, this is it. They will be "sine die" at the adjournment of legislature this year. So she is the one for that district at this time.

I thought that in MI, proposals stayed on for two calendar years.

[Scandiacus]

I thought that in MI, proposals stayed on for two calendar years.

No, only for the current legislative session. The sessions are two years, so if a bill is introduced on the first day then it has two years to live, but all bills introduced during the session end with the session even if introduced on the last day.

[71commander]

No, only for the current legislative session. The sessions are two years, so if a bill is introduced on the first day then it has two years to live, but all bills introduced during the session end with the session even if introduced on the last day.

Thanks. I knew two years came into play somehow.

[RIPLLC]

Even though I am not a resident for another year I have sent emails to legislators and the governor on this matter. Supporting you guys all the way from Colorado.

[Giraffe45]

Just had a conversation on Facebook messenger with Robert whitentard. He seems to think that he has support from his district on this topic. He doesn't believe that we have a lawful need for assault weapons. I say we hammer his reelection.

[langenc]

No, they will never stop.

Email sent to my rep to stop this nonsense.

They will never stop. Two steps forward-one step back... They are still ahead in the end.

Kinda like the lie becoming truth after a while. These get introduced enough times pretty soon, let us pass this and end it.

[langenc]

Hopefully more and more people will contact their reps and these people will get the message. If you want to keep your job, stop allowing us to get screwed.


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Better than that-talk w/ em face to face.

[LP560]

More good news. mlive dot com/news/index.ssf/2016/10/assault_weapon_ban_bill_dead_o.html hopefully it's not a false sense of hope.

[Roundballer]

More good news. http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/10/assault_weapon_ban_bill_dead_o.html hopefully it's not a false sense of hope.
FIFY

Not too bad of an article, but the Senator doesn't serve on the committee that is in control at this time.

The Senator also doesn't have the right idea for this "gun control" issue, We need some one to regularly and repeatedly introduce legislation repealing the moronic laws that we do have. And then, let the anti's do the "compromising".

[JasonJ]

Just had a conversation on Facebook messenger with Robert whitentard. He seems to think that he has support from his district on this topic. He doesn't believe that we have a lawful need for assault weapons. I say we hammer his reelection.

Well, if his "side" would stop making up terms and phrases that are scary to people, then arbitrarily defining what those objects are, we wouldn't be so worked up over it. Nevermind the fact that an AR15 works just like any other semiauto on the planet, they'll just redefine the term "assault weapon" to mean any firearm meant to kill others. That oughta cover what he REALLY believes...

[04JRB]

Well, if his "side" would stop making up terms and phrases that are scary to people, then arbitrarily defining what those objects are, we wouldn't be so worked up over it. Nevermind the fact that an AR15 works just like any other semiauto on the planet, they'll just redefine the term "assault weapon" to mean any firearm meant to kill others. That oughta cover what he REALLY believes...

Here here, well said sir.

[MI redneck]

FIFY

Not too bad of an article, but the Senator doesn't serve on the committee that is in control at this time.

The Senator also doesn't have the right idea for this "gun control" issue, We need some one to regularly and repeatedly introduce legislation repealing the moronic laws that we do have. And then, let the anti's do the "compromising".

^^^^ What he said! ^^^^

[SWMI737]

If this bill, or anything like it, ever passes I will immediately get an apartment in Indiana within 12 hours and will be an Indiana resident. I will not live under that tyranny. I'll sell my house and go pay income taxes in a free state. We need to reverse the already unconstitutional gun control here by repealing handgun registration and all gun free zones, and then get constitional carry.

[SomeGun]

He's a young male from Oak Park. He'll have no problem getting reelected there if he keeps posturing like this.

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He better learn to watch his six. Looks like he needs to be educated then eradicated with extreme prejudiced. Probably not hard to dig up the dirt on this dude and start bombarding his office with constant calls and emails.

No mama's boy dictating to us.

[kryl]

Even though I am not a resident for another year I have sent emails to legislators and the governor on this matter. Supporting you guys all the way from Colorado.


:thumbup:

We thank you for that.

[Sclark]

I contacted my MI rep and senator, asking them to kill the bills quickly.

[Roundballer]

They only have about 9 more working days this year.

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2015-2016/sessionschedule/House/pdf/2016-HSS-1.pdf

And this hasn't even made it out of the first committee. Pretty safe bet these bills will all be sine die.

[Leader]

They only have about 9 more working days this year.

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2015-2016/sessionschedule/House/pdf/2016-HSS-1.pdf

And this hasn't even made it out of the first committee. Pretty safe bet these bills will all be sine die.

That is a TOUGH job, how many "working days" do you have left this year?

[JasonJ]

That is a TOUGH job, how many "working days" do you have left this year?

I have 27. Us IT nerds got it bad... lol.

[AxlMyk]

That is a TOUGH job, how many "working days" do you have left this year?
Work?

[Roundballer]

Work?

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