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Tallbear
03-08-2017, 10:35 AM
SB 0219 of 2017 (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2017-SB-0219)
Weapons; licensing; application process for licensing; modify. Amends secs. 1, 4, 5a, 5b, 5j, 5l, 5o, 6 & 8 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.421 et seq.) & repeals sec. 421 of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.421).
Last Action: 3/7/2017 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY

PhotoTom
03-08-2017, 11:02 AM
Licenses are processed so fast (Statewide) now that the whole "emergency" thing might be a moot point.

This bill would allow someone to skip the class and apply immediately…but the emergency license is invalid in 10 days if they don't complete a training course.
Just seems unnecessary now, especially since it tosses the eligibility determination back in the Sheriff's Office's lap…in Wayne County…the Sheriff's Office probably wouldn't even look at the application/background check request for more than 10 days anyway...

luckless
03-08-2017, 12:39 PM
Maybe the solution would be to upgrade our laws concerning open carry.

PhotoTom
03-08-2017, 12:51 PM
Even if there were some valid reason for this bill to pass, IMO…it would be better to require the Clerk's Office and the MSP to "immediately" process the application/background check and leave the County Sheriff's out of it.

Roundballer
03-08-2017, 12:58 PM
OH HELL NO!

This is a lot more than what they allude in the description:

Add: "From this State or Another State" to the exemptions for retired LEO.

The County Sheriff can stop an Emergency license for violations of certain sections.

Determination of qualification is to be "Based solely on the report received from the Department of state police under subsection (6)". Which probably is not a bad thing.

Add language that when the clerk is notified that someone is no longer exempted from PFZ, the clerk notifies the licensee to turn in the licensee, and then that person has to pay for a replacement without the box checked.

Class certificates must have ORIGINAL HANDWRITTEN signatures. I guess no more photo copies turned in to the clerk.

Alter the use of a renewal receipt used as a permit on an expired license.

Add Language for the MSP to check and the clerk to NOT issue to Illegal or Nonimmigrant Alien.

And what is this about repealing MCL 750-421 (http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-750-421)? No longer a crime to build an armored vehicle.....

Tallbear
03-09-2017, 04:12 PM
COMMITTEE: Judiciary



DATE: Tuesday, March 14, 2017



TIME: 3:00 p.m.



PLACE: Room 1300, Binsfeld Building

201 Townsend Street

Lansing, MI 48933



PHONE: Heather Dorbeck (517) 373-5323

Committee Clerk





AGENDA



SB 223 Sen. Jones Law enforcement; records; maintain record for separation of employment; require, and establish that agency is immune from civil liability.



SB 219 Sen. Green Weapons; licensing; application process for licensing; modify.



SB 72 Sen. Bieda Corrections; parole; parole eligibility for certain controlled substance offenders; modify.



SB 73 Sen. Bieda Crimes; controlled substances; parole eligibility for certain controlled substance offenders; modify.



SB 220 Sen. Bieda Criminal procedure; sentencing guidelines; sentencing guidelines for certain repeat drug offenses; amend to reflect changes in public health code.



SB 195 Sen. Casperson Occupations; attorneys; eligibility requirements for attorney licensed in another state to practice law in Michigan; modify.

luckless
03-10-2017, 11:36 AM
I looked hard for something good in this bill.


Bueller..... Bueller......


Nope, nothing.

Jared1981
03-10-2017, 04:47 PM
And what is this about repealing MCL 750-421 (http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-750-421)? No longer a crime to build an armored vehicle.....

What the hell?????

I never knew MI made it a felony to have an armored vehicle.

I noticed it said they can be licensed and licenses shall be issued and revoked in the same manner as a "concealed weapon license".

So I guess that means if you have a CPL, the state police shall issue you an armored vehicle license.

I'm seriously thinking about applying for this license...

Tallbear
03-15-2017, 09:58 AM
SB 0219 of 2017
Weapons; licensing; application process for licensing; modify. Amends secs. 1, 4, 5a, 5b, 5j, 5l, 5o, 6 & 8 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.421 et seq.) & repeals sec. 421 of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.421).
Last Action: 3/14/2017 Analysis File Added

Jared1981
03-15-2017, 03:24 PM
The new version of the bill (S-1) also includes a repeal of MCL 750.232

Tallbear
03-16-2017, 12:47 PM
SB 0219 of 2017
Weapons; licensing; application process for licensing; modify. Amends secs. 1, 4, 5a, 5b, 5j, 5l, 5o, 6 & 8 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.421 et seq.) & repeals sec. 421 of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.421).
Last Action: 3/16/2017 REFERRED TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WITH SUBSTITUTE S-1

Tallbear
03-23-2017, 10:04 AM
SB 0219 of 2017
Weapons; licensing; application process for licensing; modify. Amends secs. 1, 4, 5a, 5b, 5j, 5l, 5o, 6 & 8 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.421 et seq.) & repeals sec. 421 of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.421).
Last Action: 3/22/2017 PLACED ON ORDER OF THIRD READING WITH SUBSTITUTE S-1

Tallbear
05-26-2017, 10:09 AM
DATE: Tuesday, May 30, 2017

TIME: 12:00 PM

PLACE: Room 326, House Office Building, Lansing, MI

AGENDA:
HB 4416 (Rep. Hoitenga) Weapons; firearms; certain provisions regarding weapons; repeal.

HB 4417 (Rep. Hornberger) Weapons; firearms; 1927 PA 372; update references.

HB 4418 (Rep. Allor) Weapons; firearms; natural resources and environmental protection act; update references.

HB 4419 (Rep. Cole) Weapons; firearms; sentencing guidelines; update.

SB 333 (Sen. Jones) Courts; business court; types of cases heard by the business court; revise.

SB 223 (Sen. Jones) Law enforcement; records; maintain record for separation of employment; require, and establish that agency is immune from civil liability.

SB 219 (Sen. Green) Weapons; licensing; application process for licensing; modify.

dclark77l
06-20-2017, 07:39 PM
Today's update :

6/20/2017 Expected in HJ 59 read a third time
6/20/2017 Expected in HJ 59 passed; given immediate effect Roll Call # 236 Yeas 104 Nays 3
6/20/2017 Expected in HJ 59 returned to Senate

Roundballer
06-20-2017, 09:07 PM
Today's update :

6/20/2017 Expected in HJ 59 read a third time
6/20/2017 Expected in HJ 59 passed; given immediate effect Roll Call # 236 Yeas 104 Nays 3
6/20/2017 Expected in HJ 59 returned to Senate

The House passed an H-1 substitute. Now the Senate will have to approve that too.

I don't know what all they changed, but I do see that they eliminated the repeal of 750.421!

dclark77l
06-20-2017, 10:45 PM
The House passed an H-1 substitute. Now the Senate will have to approve that too.

I don't know what all they changed, but I do see that they eliminated the repeal of 750.421!


With a quick comparison, the only difference I could see was this part of section 5b that is is scratched out :

Beginning December 1, 2015, not more than 1 application may be submitted under this subsection in any calendar year. Beginning December 1, 2015, an

luckless
06-21-2017, 09:29 AM
I read the new version. I don't see ANYTHING in there to be happy about. We can't get ANYTHING progun through the Senate yet, the antis have NO PROBLEM getting gun control through the House. There is not one, single positive aspect of this bill, that I can find. Please, SOMEBODY prove me wrong.

:banghead:

dclark77l
06-22-2017, 06:48 PM
Updated today :

6/22/2017 Expected in SJ 62 HOUSE SUBSTITUTE H-1 CONCURRED IN
6/22/2017 Expected in SJ 62 ROLL CALL # 283 YEAS 32 NAYS 5 EXCUSED 1 NOT VOTING 0
6/22/2017 Expected in SJ 62 GIVEN IMMEDIATE EFFECT
6/22/2017 Expected in SJ 62 ORDERED ENROLLED

PhotoTom
07-13-2017, 07:19 AM
SB 0219 of 2017
Weapons; licensing; application process for licensing; modify. Amends secs. 1, 4, 5a, 5b, 5j, 5l, 5o, 6 & 8 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.421 et seq.) & repeals sec. 421 of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.421).
Last Action: 7/12/2017 PRESENTED TO GOVERNOR 7/11/2017 @ 2:34 PM

PhotoTom
09-07-2017, 06:53 AM
SB 0219 of 2017 (PA 0095 of 2017) (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2017-SB-0219)
Weapons; licensing; application process for licensing; modify. Amends secs. 1, 4, 5a, 5b, 5j, 5l, 5o, 6 & 8 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.421 et seq.) & repeals sec. 232 of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.232).
Last Action: 8/16/2017 ASSIGNED PA 0095'17 WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT

luckless
09-14-2017, 08:41 AM
It looks like anytime is good timing for Arlan Meekhof to send gun control legislation to Snyder to sign.

PhotoTom
11-22-2017, 07:47 AM
SB 0219 of 2017 (PA 0095 of 2017) (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/mileg.aspx?page=getobject&objectname=2017-SB-0219)
Weapons; licensing; application process for licensing; modify. Amends secs. 1, 4, 5a, 5b, 5j, 5l, 5o, 6 & 8 of 1927 PA 372 (MCL 28.421 et seq.) & repeals sec. 232 of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.232).
Last Action: 11/21/2017 Analysis File Added

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2017-2018/billanalysis/Senate/pdf/2017-SFA-0219-N.pdf