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vlmuke
03-21-2017, 06:21 PM
Anyone everheard of Mueller scopes? I just saw that they are a MI based company out of Westland, haven't found too many reviews of their products other than mostly Air rifles, seems like decent scope for the money, some have equated them to Leupold, which I question, but any real reviews or users on here?

Ol` Joe
03-21-2017, 06:39 PM
I haven't owned one but,(here it comes :hide:) a guy I shoot with at the local club has one on a Kimber M82 Gov. and likes it. The scope is variable and tops out at 32X IIRC. I have looked through it at top power and it seems to be clear and bright, and the cross hairs track well according to the owner. I don't know if I'd compare it to a Leupold but, it's a decent scope in its price range from what I have seen. :twocents:

vlmuke
03-21-2017, 07:01 PM
You are fine, I'm not like some people on here getting all internet commando, at least you have looked at one, I guess i will find out soon enough, I am just trying to figure out if I wasted my money or not, I bought it online on a whim.

Fuel Fire Desire
03-21-2017, 07:50 PM
I have a 32x Target Dot on my precision .22 setup. Fantastic scope for the money, packed with features and fairly good quality. It's no leupold or Nikon, but to get the same features and power elsewhere would have cost me 3 fold.

Mine is very clear, bright (I only shoot that rifle in daylight...so moot point), the reticle is crisp, image is clear all the way to the edges with no distortion, and it holds zero. My only gripe is that the clicks on the turrets are a bit vague, but that's minor. Many other people shooting the same kind of shooting I'm doing with this .22 have the same scope and talk highly of it. It's the reason I decided to go with this $250 scope instead of the $750 Leupold I had already budgeted for.

Shyster
03-21-2017, 08:05 PM
Mueller scopes are one of the best you are going to find under $250.

Before someone challenges me and says Vortex remember their bottom end ones leave a bit to be desired--Vortex midgrade and up are excellent.

vlmuke
03-22-2017, 01:54 AM
Thanks Fuel I ordered the 8.5-24AO I am either gonna use it on my .204R or possible my .308 AR but unsure it will handle the recoil from the .308
Shyster I agree with you I think Vortex are highly overrated, wasn't too pleased with the clarity of the Vortex scopes.

pkuptruck
03-22-2017, 03:14 AM
I have a couple, but not the "shoot to the next xounty" power size.. Mine are the 3-9 and 4-12 with the dot center plex. One gets moved around alot,
as I put it on many rifles I FIRST acquire, then I decide I havent spent enough money, and buy another scope. lol

IMIHO, they are HIGH END - mid range scopes. Clear, bright and they tend to track well. ( occasionally needing a mild whack after changing up/down or l/r -
but this is usually just my OCD, and not always the scopes fault.. )

Have one on a dedicated 6.8SPC, and it never tends to leave the weapon.. huh..

DTruck
03-22-2017, 06:37 AM
I just saw that they are a MI based company out of Westland
I was under the assumption they were German based, with an office and warehouse in Westland. I could be wrong - Either way, they employ Michiganders, so good enough for me. I've looked at their scopes in the past, and they looked good. I just hope they get more reticle choices.

ncs
03-22-2017, 08:23 AM
I have one of the target scopes and it is a great scope, clear glass through all levels of zoom. I've shot it on .22's and a couple AR's.
http://muelleroptics.com/mu83244td

I inadvertently torture tested it and it held up to a drop onto concrete. Their service is fast and friendly.

vlmuke
03-22-2017, 12:46 PM
I was under the assumption they were German based, with an office and warehouse in Westland. I could be wrong - Either way, they employ Michiganders, so good enough for me. I've looked at their scopes in the past, and they looked good. I just hope they get more reticle choices.

I thought the same thing, after I ordered it I started looking, backwards I know bought it on a whim, then started looking and there was a video on youtube from a guy in MI using it on a air rifle mentioned that they are Mi based, so IDK for sure either, but sounds like it should be decent enough for the .204

mikeb32
03-22-2017, 01:26 PM
I thought the same thing, after I ordered it I started looking, backwards I know bought it on a whim, then started looking and there was a video on youtube from a guy in MI using it on a air rifle mentioned that they are Mi based, so IDK for sure either, but sounds like it should be decent enough for the .204

It says they are on Ford Rd. in Westland, next time I am out and about, I will drive by and check.

Garymac
03-22-2017, 01:42 PM
The Mueller APV 4-14x40 AO is a very popular scope for 10/22 target rifles. It is considered a real bargain. I had a Mueller Speed Shoot 1-4x on one of my ARs. Very good scope for the money.

JST
03-22-2017, 02:23 PM
I have a 1-4x on a AR and am happy with it. Not enough rounds yet to say how well it holds zero or how it takes some banging around but so far no complaints.

vlmuke
03-23-2017, 07:24 AM
Thanks for replies everyone sounds like I did OK for the price point.

langenc
09-24-2017, 01:44 PM
I was under the assumption they were German based, with an office and warehouse in Westland. I could be wrong - Either way, they employ Michiganders, so good enough for me. I've looked at their scopes in the past, and they looked good. I just hope they get more reticle choices.

Not too long ago they listed Johannesburg, MI as HQ.. that is only about 18 mi from me.

Loganc
10-01-2017, 02:16 PM
Muellers are assembled in China. The lenses are of descent quality out of Japan. I would defieately consider them a step above BSA and most scopes that come out of the third world. They are not the equals of the Euros or the U.S./Japanese scopes. But, they do not cost as much and they are a good deal for the money.

RifleGuy
10-01-2017, 02:21 PM
Not too long ago they listed Johannesburg, MI as HQ.. that is only about 18 mi from me.

Mueller Optics LLC
36500 FORD RD. # 106
WESTLAND MI 48185-2211

PHONE: (888)-775-8885

RifleGuy
10-01-2017, 02:27 PM
Sniper Central did a review of Mueller scopes.... decent review.

http://www.snipercentral.com/mueller-tactical-4-16x50mm/

RifleGuy
10-01-2017, 02:30 PM
They eventually settled on lenses made in Japan, using a lens coating system purchased out of Germany, with the scopes to be assembled in a Chinese factory. The latter is reputed to be the best such factory in that country.

One of the top priorities was high quality assembly that would result in a low warranty return rate. Rich told me that he was confident that their Chinese assembly plant was as good as any in Japan. Having the scopes' final assembly in China greatly reduces the overall cost. This multi-national approach to scope production allows Mueller Optics to sell riflescopes of a quality equal to higher priced brands, but at a lower price.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/mueller_eraticator_8-25x50.htm

Double_Tap
10-01-2017, 02:48 PM
I have a http://muelleroptics.com/products/mueller-2-7x32-multi-shot/ that has served me well for 5 or 6 years on my 12 gauge H&R Ultra Slug gun. It's bounced off a tree or two on the end of a haul line and holds zero.
I also have http://muelleroptics.com/products/mueller-quick-shot-1x22x33-black/ on my .22lr target pistol and I have had no problems with it either.
I wouldn't hesitate to purchase their products.

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ltcnav
10-02-2017, 11:04 AM
What I find interesting in this topic is that Mueller is supposedly a Mi company, yet even in Mi no one can confirm the details of manufacture,distribution, etc And, unfortunately, that is the case for a lot of sporting goods(shooting) accessories. There are so many conglomerates/multi brand companies that it is sometimes impossible to determine place of manufacture.

DP425
10-02-2017, 02:57 PM
What I find interesting in this topic is that Mueller is supposedly a Mi company, yet even in Mi no one can confirm the details of manufacture,distribution, etc And, unfortunately, that is the case for a lot of sporting goods(shooting) accessories. There are so many conglomerates/multi brand companies that it is sometimes impossible to determine place of manufacture.

You cannot confirm it, because they don't manufacture anything here.

They are cheap, import scopes, almost certainly of Chinese manufacture. Not bad for their price range, but certainly nothing to get excited about either. I'd prob look at Athlon before Mueller. But my experience with Mueller is better than a decade old now.

Either way, in the $200 retail price range, I don't really trust any scopes to have noteworthy optics, or accurate and reliable adjustments, let alone good feel. This price range of scope is usually a bit better off lacking the tactical and target features, with a lower range magnification.

5.56
10-07-2017, 12:56 PM
Starting in 2006 I bought (1) 4-16x50 , since then (3) 8 1/2-25x44 all Mil Dot, no problems & do the job for prairie dog shoot'n. Good value for the $ and Michigan company.

And (2) 4 1/2-14x40 30mm tube my favorite

http://muelleroptics.com/products/mueller-4-5-14x40ao-tactical/