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DTrain
01-15-2018, 12:46 PM
Guys,
I have friends that are interested in getting a handgun for home defense. They have two young boys. Safety and preventing unauthorized access is a must. What's on the market for these days for a single handgun, quick access, biometric safe that would provide secure storage, but immediate access to a loaded handgun for one of the parents?

My wife and I do not have kids, so this has never been something I had to dig into.

Thanks!

TylerV76
01-15-2018, 12:57 PM
https://www.amazon.com/GunVault-SVB-500-SpeedVault-Biometric/dp/B006OGOHD0

DTrain
01-15-2018, 01:07 PM
In real life, is biometric or keypad combination better?

Seems in high stress situations, biometric would be better, IF and that's a big IF, the safe opens reliably every time.

TylerV76
01-15-2018, 01:15 PM
In real life, is biometric or keypad combination better?

Seems in high stress situations, biometric would be better, IF and that's a big IF, the safe opens reliably every time.

I cant comment on real life but I have the keypad model at work and when training with it, without looking to simulate a disoriented situation, I have had a few times that I hit the buttons too fast and missed a button. Ive gotten alot better due to muscle memory though. I personally think the biometric would be much faster and easier under high stress but it runs on batteries so you have to make sure you always have fully charged batteries in there. I read a while back that if the batteries get low the biometric reader tends to open for many non-programmed fingers. Thats a bit concerning but much better than completely locking up I guess.

Costco was selling the keypad version for a ridiculously low price, I believe under $100. That sale may be long gone by now though as it was a few months ago.

TylerV76
01-15-2018, 01:17 PM
Skip to the 2:00 mark to see how fast this one opens.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu741nnEk3c

Imshootin
01-15-2018, 01:38 PM
I bought 2 different brands of Biometric safes over the holidays and had to return both due to being unreliable.
I wound up getting this one and this one is staying. No batteries or power cord. Simplex mechanical lock. Very sturdy. http://www.gunsafeexpert.com/v-line-brute-review/

DTrain
01-15-2018, 01:51 PM
I bought 2 different brands of Biometric safes over the holidays and had to return both due to being unreliable.
I wound up getting this one and this one is staying. No batteries or power cord. Simplex mechanical lock. Very sturdy. http://www.gunsafeexpert.com/v-line-brute-review/

That's what I am worried about. Thanks for the link to the V-Line products. I'll check into them more!

Fuel Fire Desire
01-15-2018, 02:31 PM
I bought a cart full of the speed vault pop out side mount boxes when Costco had them on sale for like $35 or $40. Mine havevthe keypad, and you can make it as complex as you want (multiple synchronized button presses, etc) and can't be happier with them. Super fast easy access, and with the multiple wrong code lockout feature (and tamper alarm, both disableable) unlikely an unauthorized user could casually gain access.

I've used bio scanners in other applications (.gov computers and devices) and found them to be unreliable for a first try unlock.....even deliberately going slow. In a hurry (or a panic) it would take me 3-4 tries to gain access. Unless the new scanners are significantly better...I wouldn't trust them for an instant access box.

I'd actually prefer a Simplex lock.

DTrain
01-15-2018, 02:50 PM
FFD, are you talking about these? https://www.costco.com/Gunvault-Speedvault-SV500.product.100390759.html

Imshootin
01-15-2018, 02:59 PM
This one is supposed to have latest, greatest, FBI fingerprint sensor but I didn't feel like dropping $340 on one to find out, especially after sending two back. Plus I discovered there were three companies using Simplex locks so I studied them and decided on the Brute.

https://www.amazon.com/Verifi-Smart-Safe-Access-Biometric-Fingerprint/dp/B0112OZH2I/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=sl1&tag=biometric-feature-20&linkId=602d3fd9ef41d3eb6f8c274b45731b2d
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V-Line Brute video


https://youtu.be/mwQqxPEhsek

Sledhead
01-15-2018, 03:11 PM
Guys,
I have friends that are interested in getting a handgun for home defense. They have two young boys. Safety and preventing unauthorized access is a must. What's on the market for these days for a single handgun, quick access, biometric safe that would provide secure storage, but immediate access to a loaded handgun for one of the parents?

My wife and I do not have kids, so this has never been something I had to dig into.

Thanks!

OMG, you don't lock your gun up. Be careful you're liable to get shot.


I have a three button by my bed side. The door opens super slow and if you get the combination wrong twice it locks you out. Then it Needs to be opened with a key to rest.

Fuel Fire Desire
01-15-2018, 05:01 PM
FFD, are you talking about these? https://www.costco.com/Gunvault-Speedvault-SV500.product.100390759.html

Yep, those are it. Still a good value at $70.

DTrain
01-15-2018, 09:35 PM
Yep, those are it. Still a good value at $70.Thanks!

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DTrain
01-17-2018, 10:16 AM
What about the Hornady RFID safes?

Revdrshad
02-06-2018, 07:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNkAgKHwE2E

Hands Down, Shotlock mechanical is the only quick access safe I would trust.

Daniel44114
07-25-2019, 12:48 PM
I recently bought the Vaultek VT20I. Its fairly new to the market and there have been a few security issues that have been addressed. So far I'm very happy with it. It was a little more then I wanted to spend but I believe it was well worth the investment.

This may help: Best Biometric Gun Safe Reviews (https://www.gunsafespot.com/best-biometric-gun-safe-reviews/)

satch70270
07-30-2019, 09:32 AM
I have a V-Line with a sliding drawer. It has a Simplex lock. It is great for not having to worry about batteries. Opens every single time. Buttons provide solid, tactile feel to sense you have pushed it in. Paid $200 a couple years back...probably a little more now than then but worth it for sure!!!

ForceSupport
10-10-2019, 07:45 PM
Are Vaultek safes more form over function?

VIGILANT
10-11-2019, 06:04 AM
I wouldn't want to relay on a bio-metric safe. It might let you down when you need it most. Any alteration to your finger print would likely cause it to fail. If you work with your hands and have cuts or pealed skin, dirt/grease/tar/adhesives/blood (or peanut butter & jelly) would likely not go well for you.

Trigger_Thumb
03-09-2020, 01:05 PM
GunVault non-non-bio-metric is the way to go. Well built and reliable, and non-bio-metric leaves less room for failure (less electronics, etc.) and is less expensive.