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Smokepole
02-23-2018, 11:24 AM
POLL: Should teachers be allowed to carry guns in schools? (https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/poll-should-teachers-allowed-carry-guns-schools/IUbAwb1ewit9UhYQnp3cfL/)

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After completing a concealed weapons permit class Saturday, January 5, 2013, at the Palm Beach Shooting Center, Rama Holtzman, a 5th grade teacher at Southgrade elementary school, is given the opportunity to handle and fire a semi-automatic handgun. The shooting center is allowing teachers to take the class for free, which usually costs $75.00. (Damon Higgins/The Palm Beach Post)


During a listening session at the White House on Wednesday, President Donald Trump floated the idea of arming teachers and school staff who are “very adept” with firearms. The president followed up on Thursday with several tweets promoting the idea. Among them:

“....If a potential “sicko shooter” knows that a school has a large number of very weapons talented teachers (and others) who will be instantly shooting, the sicko will NEVER attack that school. Cowards won’t go there...problem solved. Must be offensive, defense alone won’t work!”



VOTE HERE (https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/poll-should-teachers-allowed-carry-guns-schools/IUbAwb1ewit9UhYQnp3cfL/)

DEVIL DOG
02-23-2018, 11:40 PM
Not sure of the bias in this poll, but 58% for it when I voted.

CircuitRider
02-24-2018, 09:00 AM
Not sure of the bias in this poll, but 58% for it when I voted.

It's still at 58%.

nmuskier
02-24-2018, 02:37 PM
MSNBC has their version of the same poll. Results are about flipped. So, if a socialist media outlet, and a conservative medial outlet are reciprocal, and both in the same standard deviation, I'd estimate the national average at 50/50.

Freetime
02-24-2018, 06:29 PM
Just voted-still 58% YES

tenthumbs
02-24-2018, 11:43 PM
59% now. I've voted 5 times in the last 2 days. I don't know if my extra votes are recorded or not. The first 4 times the total didn't change and there is no notice that I had voted already.

Take what you will from that. :shrugs:

Fast Glass
02-25-2018, 12:27 AM
59% yes
38% no

Viking
08-21-2018, 04:31 PM
3361 Votes in 180 days
Back down to 58% Pro...
Swear it said 38% No
Then Miscellaneous votes in the I don't know etc. 2%

10x25mm
01-07-2019, 06:55 PM
Even when it is allowed, someone will go and track down a 'Hawaiian Judge' to prohibit teachers from defending their students:

https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/05/parents-suit-teachers-carry-guns/


Parents File Suit Against School District That Wants To Allow Teachers To Carry Guns
Neetu Chandak | Education and Politics Reporter | 01/05/2019

Parents and a grandparent filed a lawsuit against a Pennsylvania school district on Thursday over a policy allowing teachers to carry guns in school.

Tamaqua Area School District in Tamaqua, Pennsylvania, approved the policy in September 2018, according The Associated Press reported Friday. The policy allows teachers, staff and administration to carry district-issued guns after going through the appropriate training.

The lawsuit claims approving the policy “endangered their community” and broke state law.

“It’s uncharted territory, but there is no law that says we can’t have legally trained armed staff,” school board member Nicholas Boyle said, WHYY reported.

State law allows campuses to have trained school resource officers or school police, The AP reported.

Executive director for gun control group CeaseFirePA, Shira Goodman, said she found the district’s interpretation of the law questionable, WHYY reported.

“I would say it’s not at all clear that they can be doing this,” Goodman said, according to WHYY.

Boyle said that the initiative would make the rural school district less vulnerable against an attacker, according to WHYY. (RELATED: Florida Sentinel Publishes Exhaustive Parkland Report: Sheriff’s Office ‘Cost Children Their Lives’)

“The rationale for the policy is to prevent the apocalypse,” Boyle said, The AP reported. “When we have a shooter in the building, how are we going to stop that shooter from killing more and more and more people? We have to have an armed presence there.”

The school district, which is nearly 90 miles away from Philadelphia, is believed to be the first in the state to pass a policy where teachers could be armed in school, The AP reported. Boyle said the district has not received push back from the state.

Teachers in Missouri, Texas and Ohio are allowed to be armed in school, according to The AP. Other states are considering the option.

The debate around guns in school was amplified after President Donald Trump called on arming teachers following the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting on Feb. 14, 2018.

The Parkland, Florida, shooting left 17 students and staff members dead. A state commission’s report on the deadly shooting recently recommended arming teachers.

Tamaqua Area School District did not immediately respond to The Daily Caller News Foundation’s request for comment.

10x25mm
03-14-2019, 03:33 PM
Or get the new U.S. Congress to prohibit using federal funds, an effective ban:

https://www.politico.com/morningeducation/


Morning Education, 14 March 2019
A daily overview of education policy news
Benjamin Wermund, with help from Kimberly Hefling

.......NEW PUSH TO BAN GUNS IN SCHOOLS: Democrats, including former teacher of the year and House freshman Jahana Hayes (D-Conn.), will unveil legislation today that would prevent the Education Department from allowing school districts to use federal money to arm teachers.

— The bill is sponsored by Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) in the Senate and Hayes in the House. Hayes recently sparred with House Republicans during a markup of the Rebuild America's Schools Act, H.R. 865 (116), House Democrats' $100 billion school infrastructure plan. Rep. Rick Allen (R-Ga.) offered an amendment, which was eventually tabled, saying the bill would not prohibit schools from arming teachers or other school personnel. It sparked a passionate response from Hayes, who said: "Teachers do not want this."

— Murphy, Hayes and Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) are set to unveil the legislation at a press conference at 1:30 p.m. near the eastern entrance of the Capitol. American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten and Doug Prouty, an English teacher from Richard Montgomery High School in Rockville, Md., are set to attend......

This could pass in a hot second if it is piggybacked on legislation which deals with corrupt college admissions.

10x25mm
05-28-2019, 11:47 AM
Bill Tallen at the Von Mises Institute has posted an article debunking the opposition to the newly signed Florida law which permits school districts (each at its own discretion) to authorize concealed carry of firearms by teachers in their schools:

https://mises.org/wire/confronting-myths-about-arming-teachers