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JohnJak
09-19-2018, 01:26 PM
Slowing the spread of CWD

Slowing the spread of CWD

Deer hunting seasons kick off this weekend with the Liberty Hunt and, in certain locations, the early antlerless firearm season. Within specific areas of the state there are opportunities and regulations in place to help battle chronic wasting disease (CWD).

What YOU can do to help
Regulations
NEW antlerless license opportunity
Field-dressing and processing your deer
If you see a sick deer

What YOU can do to help

Keep hunting, especially in CWD areas. Find CWD-specific areas at michigan.gov/cwd.
Get your deer checked and tested for CWD.
Find DNR check station and drop-box locations, including partnering meat processors and taxidermists, at michigan.gov/deercheck. Some drop boxes are open 24 hours.
Visit michigan.gov/dnrlab to check your test results.Test results may take up to 14 business days during the busier times of the season.
Avoid long-distance movements with your deer carcass. For carcass transportation rules, visit michigan.gov/cwd (pages 39 and 52 of the Hunting Digest).
Handle and dispose of your carcass in a responsible manner – dispose of leftover carcass parts through your garbage service, an appropriate landfill, incineration or deep burial at the harvest location.
If you hunt outside of Michigan, bring back only allowed cervid parts (see page 53 of the Hunting Digest).

Regulations

The Liberty Hunt, Sept. 22-23, takes place on private and public lands statewide in Michigan open to firearm deer hunting (pages 27 and 30 of the Hunting Digest outline who is eligible for this hunt).
Many deer management units are open to the early antlerless firearm season, which is Sept. 22-23 on private lands only. Visit michigan.gov/deer to find the list of open areas.
There are baiting and feeding restrictions in place for certain locations within the state (see page 50 of the Hunting Digest).
Approved urine and lure attractants can be found at michigan.gov/cwd (additional details on pages 48 and 49 of the Hunting Digest).
Carcass transportation restrictions can be found on pages 39 and 52 of the Hunting Digest.
In CWD areas, deer licenses may be used to harvest antlerless deer and/or antlered deer with at least one antler 3 inches or longer (learn what is allowed on page 38 of the Hunting Digest).
There is a purchase limit of 10 private-land antlerless licenses per hunter in the CWD Management Zone (see pages 34, 39 and 40 of the Hunting Digest).

NEW antlerless license opportunity

Hunters have the option of purchasing discounted antlerless licenses at 40 percent off the usual price. These licenses are good for private land within the CWD Management Zone through Nov. 4, 2018, when they expire. In addition to these discounted licenses, hunters still can purchase regular, over-the-counter antlerless deer licenses (see pages 39 and 40 of the Hunting Digest).
Field-dressing and processing your deer

It is recommended that when field-dressing your deer, you:

Cover all open wounds.
Wear rubber gloves.
Minimize the handling of brain and spinal tissues.
Bone out the meat from your deer. Avoid cutting through the brain or spinal column during processing.
Wash hands with soap and warm water after handling any parts of the carcass.
Wash knives, saws and cutting table surfaces immediately after processing.
Dispose of leftover carcass parts through your garbage service, an appropriate landfill, incineration or deep burial at the harvest location.
Bury gut piles after field-dressing a deer or dispose of them at an appropriate landfill location.
Avoid consuming or cooking the brain, spinal cord, eyes, spleen and lymph nodes of harvested animals.
Request that your animal be processed individually, without meat from other animals being added.

If you see a sick deer

While you're out hunting, keep an eye out for deer exhibiting signs of CWD. Deer with the disease can be thin and show abnormal behavior such as loss of fear of humans, lowered head or excessive drooling. Report sick deer to the DNR at 1-800-292-7800 or online at michigan.gov/eyesinthefield.

pkuptruck
09-19-2018, 01:45 PM
The DNR does not want to slow the spread of CWD..

The DNR and the NRC have ZERO interest in slowing, or even addressing CWD in any substantive way.

if they did, they would have already sought and digested any and all CWD studies from every state
the HAS CWD and has studied it.

The NRC and the DNR are all about their pocketbooks. ( and short sighted at that)

If they were, they would thow out the APR BS that they are cramming down our throats.

CWD is more prevail ant in younger males, and it is spread more exponentially by older males.
(Penn and Wisc studies)

APRs have had statistically ZERO effect on herd age demography ( over time.. initially with the DOE slaughter,
the numbers are skewed for the first year or two.. ) ( Wyoming/Penn/Wisc and even NLP12 in Michigan study)

ARP's are the "participation trophys" for the lazy hunter that has ZERO idea of hunting traditions, deer camps,
camaraderie etc. All they want is their antler Cialis to make themselves meaningful... to themselves.

APR's are the hunters version of High Capacity magazine restrictions. They make no sense and have zero effect on the herd,
but make a certain class happy.

bluegill
10-05-2018, 03:20 PM
APRs have been removed in the CWD management zone in an effort to slow the spread of the disease. You can shoot any size buck on both of your combo tags. In the future APRs will likely be removed from any area with CWD.

Page 36-38 of the guide has the APR details:

https://www.michigan.gov/documents/dnr/hunting_and_trapping_digest_461177_7.pdf

10x25mm
10-19-2018, 03:51 AM
Bad news from the Upper Peninsula:

https://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2018/10/chronic_wasting_disease_found_1.html


Chronic wasting disease found in Upper Peninsula deer for first time
Brandon Champion - October 18, 2018

DICKINSON COUNTY, MI - Chronic wasting disease has reached the Upper Peninsula.

A 4-year-old doe killed in Dickinson County's Waucedah Township has tested positive for the fatal nervous system disease, confirming its presence in Michigan's Upper Peninsula for the first time.

The deer was shot on an agricultural farm about 4 miles from the Michigan-Wisconsin border.

"We remain committed to maintaining healthy Michigan wildlife for the residents of, and visitors to, this great state, now and into the future," said Michigan Department of Natural Resources Director Keith Creagh.

"Fortunately, over the past few years, with the help of hunters, the U.P. CWD Task Force, DNR staffers and others, we are far better prepared to respond to threats posed by chronic wasting disease in the U.P."

The finding was verified by Michigan State University's Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory in East Lansing and the U.S. Department of Agriculture's National Veterinary Services Laboratory in Ames, Iowa.

The DNR has tested hundreds of deer from Upper Peninsula counties bordering Wisconsin. As of Oct. 11, 625 deer have been tested from Dickinson, Gogebic, Menominee and Iron counties this year.

Chronic wasting disease has been found in free-ranging deer in six additional counties in Michigan including Clinton, Ingham, Ionia, Jackson, Kent and Montcalm. A total of 63 deer within these counties have tested positive for the disease.

In North America, a total of 25 states and three Canadian provinces have confirmed the presence of chronic wasting disease in free-ranging or captive deer, elk or moose, or both.

To date, there have been no reported cases of CWD infection in humans. Appropriate steps are being taken to limit the spread of the disease in the U.P.

"For next hunting season and beyond, the DNR will discuss possible response actions with U.P. hunters and other stakeholders to determine the best approach to fighting CWD in the region," said Chad Stewart, DNR deer management specialist.

Sledhead
10-19-2018, 04:46 AM
Their plan is to eliminate all the small beef/dairy farms, nothing more.

pkuptruck
10-19-2018, 06:52 AM
Their plan is to eliminate all the small beef/dairy farms, nothing more.


hmmm. didnt they try similar BS with the small pig farmers not to long ago?

Remember? All the WILD FERAL pigs?


The ones that are rampaging thru Michigan? Seems one cant go anywhere without tripping over them..

december1979
11-19-2018, 04:13 PM
I hunted in Newaygo county this year and went through the whole CWD core area restrictions. I did not know much about CWD, but in days since I harvested my deer I have done a lot of research. I have to say I am blown away about what I have found. Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, Kuru, Mad cow disease and CWD are all very similar diseases and a possible link to alzheimer's or possibly Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease and alzheimer's are one in the same. Worst of all these Prion proteins that cause it can not be killed (cooking, freezing or chemical) in fact they can attach to plants growing in the soil that has them and be transmitted to what ever eats them. I read an article early today (can't find the link) and it said a deer farm in Colorado in 1985 removed all the deer (most had CWD) and treated the soil with chlorine then removed all topsoil and treated it again with chlorine after waiting 18 months they tested the soil again and it was positive for these Prions that cause CWD.

The incubation period is so long with Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease that you can have it for 50 years before you show symptoms. The incubation period of CWD seems to be much less at around 18 months. Not much is known with all these diseases and I know they are not wide spread but seems just very strange to me how similar all of them are.

I know there are a lot of deer hunters here so what are your thoughts or opinions on this?





https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15694685

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16338930

https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2015/06/researchers-make-surprising-discovery-about-spread-of-chronic-wasting-disease/

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/wisconsin/2017/07/07/can-chronic-wasting-disease-jump-humans-concerns-keep-rising/453371001/

https://www.health.com/food/mad-cow-disease

Smokepole
11-20-2018, 06:14 AM
I hunted in Newaygo county this year and went through the whole CWD core area restrictions. I did not know much about CWD, but in days since I harvested my deer I have done a lot of research. I have to say I am blown away about what I have found. Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, Kuru, Mad cow disease and CWD are all very similar diseases and a possible link to alzheimer's or possibly Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease and alzheimer's are one in the same. Worst of all these Prion proteins that cause it can not be killed (cooking, freezing or chemical) in fact they can attach to plants growing in the soil that has them and be transmitted to what ever eats them. I read an article early today (can't find the link) and it said a deer farm in Colorado in 1985 removed all the deer (most had CWD) and treated the soil with chlorine then removed all topsoil and treated it again with chlorine after waiting 18 months they tested the soil again and it was positive for these Prions that cause CWD.

The incubation period is so long with Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease that you can have it for 50 years before you show symptoms. The incubation period of CWD seems to be much less at around 18 months. Not much is known with all these diseases and I know they are not wide spread but seems just very strange to me how similar all of them are.

I know there are a lot of deer hunters here so what are your thoughts or opinions on this?





https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15694685

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16338930

https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2015/06/researchers-make-surprising-discovery-about-spread-of-chronic-wasting-disease/

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/wisconsin/2017/07/07/can-chronic-wasting-disease-jump-humans-concerns-keep-rising/453371001/

https://www.health.com/food/mad-cow-disease

Exactly what killed a friend of mine up here.
He was dead in less than two months from when they discovered it.

After he died, his body was sent down to Ann Arbor for further investigation,and his widow,and the rest of the family are now being tested periodically to see if they show any symptoms.

He was a big deer hunter,and also went out west to hunt, as well.

mikethepike
11-22-2018, 10:21 AM
I harvested a beautiful doe the other day . I stopped at the DNR field office and they took the head for testing. I had my deer processed and given back to me. When the results come back then I decide if I get to eat it or throw it away in the trash

DrScaryGuy
11-22-2018, 10:35 AM
I harvested a beautiful doe the other day . I stopped at the DNR field office and they took the head for testing. I had my deer processed and given back to me. When the results come back then I decide if I get to eat it or throw it away in the trash

so what's going on with trophies? say you got a great buck worth mounting on a wall, could you? do they give any of it back?

mikethepike
11-23-2018, 09:51 AM
That's a good question. I would assume they are just taking a sample of brain and testing it. The tag stays w/ the head.

Jackam
11-24-2018, 04:41 PM
That's a good question. I would assume they are just taking a sample of brain and testing it. The tag stays w/ the head.

I submitted a head for testing. I used a drop box. The DNR had a jig that you place your deer head in and cut it.
They stated that if you want your antlers, to take them. They are not testing the brain. I guess they test the lymph nodes.

december1979
11-25-2018, 08:52 AM
I submitted my deer head to a DNR drop box also. I did the online tag form and some test results have come back for bovine tuberculosis as negative. But the CWD results may take up to 14 days from the processing date.

Has anyone else done this and checked their results? The test results show my deer as a female and 0.5 years of age, which is incorrect so I'm wondering if female amd 0.5 age is just a defult thing and they all say that.

If you shoot a trophy buck in these areas, you would bring the deer to your taxidermist to remove the lymph nodes and he will send them in to be tested.

december1979
11-26-2018, 10:17 AM
Current results


https://www.michigan.gov/emergingdiseases/0,4579,7-186-76711_78204-480388--,00.html

HemiChallenger
11-27-2018, 05:35 PM
Current results


https://www.michigan.gov/emergingdiseases/0,4579,7-186-76711_78204-480388--,00.html

Great link. Hope more see it on the forum.

Jackam
11-28-2018, 06:15 PM
Nov. 28, 2018

Contact: Chad Stewart, 517-282-4810

Suspected CWD-positive deer identified in Gratiot and Eaton counties
Hunters encouraged to check deer in counties where state is actively monitoring for CWD, particularly Gratiot, Isabella, Jackson and Kent

Two new counties likely will be added to the list of Michigan counties where chronic wasting disease has been found. CWD is a fatal neurological disease that affects white-tailed deer, mule deer, elk and moose.

A 4-year-old hunter-harvested buck in Pine River Township (Gratiot County) and a 2-year-old hunter-harvested buck in Carmel Township (Eaton County) are suspected positive for the disease. The samples were sent to the National Veterinary Services Laboratory in Ames, Iowa, for confirmation, which is expected next week.

Chronic wasting disease currently has been confirmed in Clinton, Dickinson, Ingham, Ionia, Jackson, Kent and Montcalm counties.

As of Saturday, the Department of Natural Resources has tested more than 16,000 deer in 2018, with 20 of those confirmed positive for CWD. There are an additional 18 animals suspected positive from townships in Clinton, Kent and Montcalm counties. Additional animals are being tested daily.

“I continue to be impressed with hunters’ commitment to the health of Michigan’s deer, and want to stress again how much the actions of all hunters matter,” said Chad Stewart, DNR deer and elk specialist. “It is only through hunter assistance that we have found CWD in new areas.

“The DNR sets surveillance goals – shown as a number of deer tested in a particular area – to help us detect the presence of the disease at a certain level,” Stewart said. “It’s critical that we meet these goals to increase our understanding of the distribution of chronic wasting disease in Michigan, so we strongly encourage hunters in these areas to get their deer checked.”

Despite strong participation from hunters throughout the CWD surveillance and management areas, there are several counties – particularly Gratiot, Isabella, Jackson and Kent – where testing is well below the goal.

To continue the fight against CWD, Stewart reminds hunters to keep hunting throughout the December deer seasons, check their deer, dispose of leftover parts in the trash, and, if possible, take additional does in the Lower Peninsula’s CWD areas.

Deer check stations and drop boxes will continue to be open throughout the remaining hunting seasons into early January, while the DNR Wildlife Disease Laboratory and partner Michigan State University Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory will continue processing and testing deer for another six weeks or more as hunting seasons continue. For check station locations and hours, visit michigan.gov/deercheck.

Updated testing results, including the goal per county, are available at michigan.gov/cwd in the Check Stations, Testing and Results section.

To date, there have been no reported cases of CWD infection in people. However, as a precaution, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommend that infected animals not be consumed as food by either humans or domestic animals.

december1979
11-29-2018, 09:14 AM
Lets hope it hasn't spread more than what the test results show, how I understand it not much is known about the incubation period and when the tests show positive from when it is actually contracted. Seems to be really bad in Colorado and its been there since the 70's. I'm afraid the DNR efforts are to late, but this years test results will show a better prescriptive.

https://www.michigan.gov/emergingdiseases/0,4579,7-186-76711_78204-357110--,00.html

97 out of 47,257 is .2%

The estimated deer population in Michigan is 1.75 million

Based on the test results there could be 3,500 deer with CWD in Michigan (if I did the math correctly) and if it's wide spread through out Michigan.

Jackam
11-29-2018, 07:11 PM
I wish they would have tested in 1975 just to compare...

mikethepike
12-09-2018, 11:58 AM
Just received my test results....NEGATIVE- ok to eat !!!

mikethepike
12-09-2018, 11:59 AM
(of my deer)

DrScaryGuy
12-09-2018, 12:03 PM
(of my deer)

too late. i've already sent the butcher to your house. I paid up front.

december1979
12-10-2018, 12:44 PM
This is a good read on CWD

https://undark.org/article/chronic-wasting-disease-cwd/


This Doctor from Louisiana State University has a very interesting study on how CWD is transmitted, which makes a lot of sense how CDW doesn't seem to cross the species barrier.

tseresearchcenter.org




Field test kits would be great, as long as they don't cost $1,000 a piece or something crazy like that.

http://tseresearchcenter.org/16-news-content/40-new-funding-source-for-dr-bastian-s-research-efforts

Smokepole
12-21-2018, 08:08 AM
No mention of this guy being a deer hunter,but it will be interesting to follow the story.

Tennessee man diagnosed with human version of Mad Cow Disease (https://wset.com/news/nation-world/tennessee-man-diagnosed-with-human-version-of-mad-cow-disease-12-20-2018-155514021)


Nashville, TN — A Tennessee man has been diagnosed with a disease few have heard of, it's Cruetzfeldt-Jackob Disease. Also known as CJD, it's the human equivalent to Mad Cow Disease. The diagnosis has changed his family's lives forever.

WTVF reported that the patient, 32-year-old Tony Gibson, was a happy and healthy father until his symptoms began to show one year ago.

His Danielle Gibson, said he started acting strangely, and that he became very forgetful.

"I had to start labeling the rooms in our home. He would get lost going to the grocery store, and someone would call me and say we have your husband," said Danielle.

Tony's behavior continued, so Danielle took him to Vanderbilt University Medical Center. After doctors ordered multiple tests on her husband, Danielle said a neurologist made a shocking discovery.

"But he said the worst case scenario being CJD, I said what is that? He said it is the human form of mad cow disease," Danielle said.

Infectious disease specialists at Vanderbilt, Dr. William Schaffner, did not work on Tony's case, but he says CJD typically impacts about 300 people a year in the United States.

Schaffner said, "CJD or creutzfeld-jakob disease, is rare brain disorder." Patients with the condition can become anxious, depressed, confused, and the disease progresses quickly. "This is a very tragic disease because there is no treatment, the patients sink into this withdrawal, semi-comatose state," said Schaffner.

CJD has different forms that can develop randomly, genetically, or after being exposed to infected human tissue during a medical procedure.

Danielle says she does not know how her husband got CJD. She added that he now requires 24-hour care at a nursing home.

"This is the most devastating thing. I've seen ALS, I've seen a lot of terrible things, but this has to be the worst," said Danielle.

Danielle hopes Tony's struggles can help educate others about the unusual disease and its symptoms. WTVF reports that she will stay by his side while he fights the disease.

"It's unreal, what I've seen this man go through," said Danielle.

december1979
12-28-2018, 01:36 PM
No mention of this guy being a deer hunter,but it will be interesting to follow the story.

Tennessee man diagnosed with human version of Mad Cow Disease (https://wset.com/news/nation-world/tennessee-man-diagnosed-with-human-version-of-mad-cow-disease-12-20-2018-155514021)

I think in the next 5-10 years we will see some major development in understanding this disease. I don't quite understand how CJD, Mad cow & CWD cannot cross the species barrier but all are the same prion disease. This research makes the most since to me http://tseresearchcenter.org/16-news...search-efforts it may be a bacteria that causes the prion proteins to unfold and cause TSE in the brain. Very similar to lyme disease, the tick does not have lyme disease, it carries the bacteria that can cause lyme disease.

This bacteria may be the reason it's been so difficult to research, track and test for CWD. The deer fight off the bacterial infection after an unknown amount of time than go possibly years before symptoms of CWD start, also an unknown amount of time from when the deer fight of the bacterial infection, incubation period of CWD starts to when the deer may test positive.

december1979
02-21-2019, 04:20 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/in-2005-about-200-people-ate-zombie-deer-meat-heres-what-happened/ar-BBTUdnG?li=BBnbcA1

10x25mm
04-23-2019, 08:04 AM
Ted Nugent is getting some national attention for his opposition to the NRC's deer baiting ban:

https://www.foxnews.com/great-outdoors/ted-nugent-vows-to-keep-fighting-against-deer-baiting-ban


Ted Nugent vows to 'keep fighting' against deer baiting ban
Alexandra Deabler | Fox News | April 22, 2019

Musician Ted Nugent has been outspoken about his passion for hunting, which is why he’s now fighting back against a Michigan hunting ban that would prohibit hunters from deer baiting and feeding in the Lower Peninsula.

Rocker Ted Nugent is fighting back against a Michigan ban that went into effect after Jan. 31 prohibiting hunters from deer baiting and feeding in the Lower Peninsula in an effort to prevent the spread of chronic wasting disease.

Nugent, who has been outspoken about his passion for hunting, said in an interview that he would be challenging the Natural Resources Commission-approved ban, calling it the “definition of insanity," and is in the process of setting up a rally in Michigan in June to gather support.

“It breaks my Michigan heart, and I will not give up — I’m going to keep fighting,” said Nugent to M Live.

The ban, which was approved in August 2018, comes as part of the state’s many changes attempting to limit the spread of chronic wasting disease in deer. Since 2015, the fatal neurological disease has spread to several counties throughout Michigan.

However, Nugent and several other hunters reportedly feel the ban won’t limit the spread.

“They don’t need a Michigan hunter to drop a sugar beet for them to have nose-to-nose contact,” Nugent said in the M Live interview. “Deer lick and kiss and nibble and groom each other throughout life. It is so insane that someone would tell you that dropping corn might cause a deer to swap spit.”

Nugent has drummed up support from others, including state Sen. Curt VanderWall, who sponsored Senate bill 37 (https://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(b2ysb4pm1yraizra21vui1jy))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=2019-SB-0037) calling for the ban to be lifted during open hunting season. The bill is currently with the Senate Natural Resources Committee, but has not been voted on yet, M Live reported.

The musician has also threatened a lawsuit against the Department of Natural Resources, calling them “anti-hunting liars” — a criticism Dan O’Brien, a veterinarian specialist with the department, has defended against.

“There are always going to be people who have different opinions, there’s always going to be people who seem to feel that they have some reason that we would lie about it,” said O’Brien to M Live. “We’re dealing with the published science.”

“You’ve got to try to set up conditions to make it difficult for diseases to get established,” he continued. “The best thing you can hope for is to minimize spread, so we have to do the best we can to prevent the disease from getting established in new areas.”

However, Nugent is not buying the department’s reasoning.

“We just want to go hunting,” Nugent said to M Live. “We want to get some deer. We want to balance that herd. We want to save the agriculture and the highway slaughter from an overpopulation. We want to have fun with our family, and we want to eat venison. Just leave me alone.”

Jackam
04-23-2019, 08:15 AM
I saw that and wondered if he truly thinks this way or if the guided hunts he offers on his Michigan ranch has anything to do with his opinion.

Bow hunting since 1975. I've seen the woods explode with archers (especially when baiting became a "thing to do." The advent of crossbows with super accuracy brought even more "archers" into the woods.
I have said many times that I wish they would ban baiting, crossbows, and I'd even go so far as tree stands. I knew that would get the October woods back to the way the animals are in August.

Now that I am older, I could hunt without a tree stand. I can still pull my bow and hit what I am shooting at (don't need a crossbow,) but the baiting.... well... that REALLY helps!

I wish we knew for certain about this CWD.

10x25mm
04-23-2019, 08:56 AM
.....I wish we knew for certain about this CWD.

A huge controversy has broken out over the cause of CWD. A Louisiana State University neuropathologist, Frank Bastian, believes that bacteria are actually distorting the prions which cause the disease. (https://www.postregister.com/outdoors/scientist-claims-chronic-wasting-disease-is-caused-by-bacteria/article_4dbaf05b-565b-5375-bec7-274a37afb40c.html) If he is correct, a vaccine or antibiotics may be more effective than the current efforts to stop the spread of CWD.

Bastian is receiving little support from the wildlife management community, however. This could be a replay of the campylobacter pylori role in stomach ulcers, which raged for years.

DrScaryGuy
04-23-2019, 12:10 PM
A huge controversy has broken out over the cause of CWD. A Louisiana State University neuropathologist, Frank Bastian, believes that bacteria are actually distorting the prions which cause the disease. (https://www.postregister.com/outdoors/scientist-claims-chronic-wasting-disease-is-caused-by-bacteria/article_4dbaf05b-565b-5375-bec7-274a37afb40c.html) If he is correct, a vaccine or antibiotics may be more effective than the current efforts to stop the spread of CWD.

Bastian is receiving little support from the wildlife management community, however. This could be a replay of the campylobacter pylori role in stomach ulcers, which raged for years.

Maybe you meant Helicobacter pylori?
It would be an interesting take, but not necessary. Alzheimers is somewhat similar in that misfolded proteins can aggregate and cause problems, but i don't think we need any special bacteria for it.

10x25mm
04-23-2019, 08:17 PM
Maybe you meant Helicobacter pylori?

Looks like campylobacter pylori got renamed helicobacter pylori 30 years ago. They called it campylobacter pylori when my father had a run in with it in 1983.

DrScaryGuy
04-23-2019, 08:24 PM
Looks like campylobacter pylori got renamed helicobacter pylori 30 years ago. They called it campylobacter pylori when my father had a run in with it in 1983.

both right.
high five.

10x25mm
05-01-2019, 11:06 AM
The DNR plans a number of meetings where sportsmen can comment on the proposed baiting and CWD suppression regulations:

https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7-350-79137_79770_79780-495985--rss,00.html


Upcoming DNR meetings include opportunities to comment on proposed deer baiting/feeding regulations
Contact: Stacy Welling Haughey, (906)226-1331
April 26, 2019

The Department of Natural Resources is committed to providing Michigan citizens the opportunity to share input and ideas on policy decisions, programs and other aspects of natural resource management and outdoor recreation opportunities. One important avenue for this input is at meetings of the public bodies that advise the DNR and, in some cases, also set policies for natural resource management.

The following boards, commissions, committees and councils will hold public meetings next month. The public is encouraged to attend. The links below will take you to the webpage for each group, where you will find specific meeting locations and, when finalized, meeting agendas.

Please check these pages frequently, as meeting details and agendas may change and sometimes meetings are canceled.
Public comment on proposed deer baiting/feeding regulation

There also will be opportunities in May, June and July for people to share their thoughts on a DNR staff proposal to the Michigan Natural Resources Commission regarding Upper Peninsula deer baiting and feeding regulations. In addition to public comment taken at the NRC meetings during these months and the May Western Upper Peninsula Citizens’ Advisory Council meeting, an Upper Peninsula DNR listening session will be held from 1 to 3 p.m. EDT May 22 at Michigan Technological University, Memorial Union Building – Ballroom A, Houghton.

For more information about this meeting, contact Stacy Welling Haughey at 906-226-1331. June and July public comment opportunities on proposed U.P. deer baiting and feeding regulations also will be available.

May Meetings


* Accessibility Advisory Council – May 7, 10 a.m., DNR Rose Lake Shooting Range, Glassen Education Center, Bath. Meeting location is barrier-free, and an interpreter will be present. (Contact: Mike Holsinger, 517-284-5946)
* Belle Isle Park Advisory Committee – May 16, 9 to 11 a.m., Belle Isle Nature Center, Detroit (Contact: Barbara Graves, 517-284-6135)
* Coldwater Resources Steering Committee – May 1, 10:30 a.m. to noon, conference call; dial: 1-877-402-9757, access code: 4376727 (Contact: Troy Zorn, 906-249-1611)
* Lake Huron Citizens’ Fishery Advisory Committee – May 8, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m., Jay’s Sporting Goods, Clare (Contact: Randy Claramunt, 231-347-4689)
* Michigan Wildlife Council – May 21, 10 a.m. to 4 p.m., DNR Customer Service Center, Lansing (Contact: Ray Rustem, 517-284-6070)
* Natural Resources Commission – May 9, 9 a.m., Lansing Community College, Gannon Building, Lansing (Contact: Cheryl Nelson, 517-284-6237)
* Timber Advisory Council – May 24, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m., DNR Customer Service Center, Gaylord (Contact: Kimberley Korbecki, 517-284-5876)
* Underwater Salvage and Preserve Committee – May 15, 1 p.m., Michigan Library and Historical Center, Lansing (Contact: Sheri Giffin, 517-335-2591)
* Western Upper Peninsula Citizens’ Advisory Council – May 22, 5:30 p.m. Eastern, Michigan Technological University, Memorial Union Building – Ballroom A, Houghton (Contact: Stacy Welling Haughey, 906-226-1331)

pkuptruck
05-01-2019, 11:59 AM
The DNR plans a number of meetings where sportsmen can comment on the proposed baiting and CWD suppression regulations:

https://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7-350-79137_79770_79780-495985--rss,00.html

whatever happened to "scientific management" vs the current money laundering scheme they use ( public money..ie QDMA) ?

This meeting is just an excuse for the APR to be shoved down the thumbs throat, even after they failed TWICE in getting it implemented by
the exact system and rules that QDMA paid for.

The NRC does very little as far as whats scientific.. and does more in line with.. whats gonna get me the best perk.

december1979
01-14-2020, 02:21 PM
In Newaygo County now.............

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/cwd-found-in-3-deer-on-newaygo-county-farm/ar-BBYX0TV?ocid=hplocalnews

Jackam
01-14-2020, 06:23 PM
yikes

december1979
04-17-2024, 12:18 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/study-hunters-die-after-consuming-cwd-infected-venison/ar-BB1lNvEl?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=68aa76aa1d3e40eabd7bcce72c7f7581&ei=15