.45 CALIBER ADVICE

[The Immortal]

LOOKING TO EXPAND INVENTORY OF CALIBERS AND WANT TO ACQUIRE A .45 CALIBER SINGLE STACK.
ANY ADVICE WOULD BE WELCOME. CONSIDERING SIG 220 CARRY.
THANKS

[glansky]

For 45 I personally like 1911. Springfield or Para are my personal choices, but on this forum you will get many different strong opinions from others.

In either case go with what works and fits you best and what you have personal confidence in.

[JimSig]

I recently purchased my first 45 ACP a Springfield 1911-A1 Loaded.. A 1911 is a must to have.. It is the classical 45 ACP design.. If you have a 1911 already, my next choice would be an FN 45 or a Glock 21 SF ..


Edit: oops.. I missed the OP request for "single stack".. The FN and the G 21 are not single stack but I love these gun in 45 in general.

[sevenplusone]

The only proper answer to getting a single stack .45 is a 1911.

[mrbuckshot]

you know Bersa makes a single stack "Compact Thunder .45" and the Glock 36 is one also. I have a Springfield 1911a1,Bersa .45 and a Glock 36 .. the 1911 is ok to carry on the hip,so you need a cover vest or coat. The Bersa .45 is both single and dubble action. I carry it in a shoulder holster. The Glock is new and I have not fired it enough to carry it yet. It does stand night shift guard duty beside the bed.
Have a nice day

[dramey82]

LOOKING TO EXPAND INVENTORY OF CALIBERS AND WANT TO ACQUIRE A .45 CALIBER SINGLE STACK.
ANY ADVICE WOULD BE WELCOME. CONSIDERING SIG 220 CARRY.
THANKS
:thumbup:

[CrimDoc]

I have a Taurus PT1911 ... which is a fantastic, classic 1911 pistol with a lot of high end features for a very reasonable price (in the $500s).

My general advice would be this ... first, decide how much you want to spend ... you can get a single stack .45 pistol from anywhere in the $300s to well over $2000.

Then ... once you've established a budget (say $600-800) go to a range that rents a wide variety of pistols and try to shoot as many of the "candidates" as possible. But the one that "fits best" (i.e. fits well in your hand, has a trigger you like, has the kind of sight picture you want etc.)

Start with the SIG you're considering, and then try out some other "contenders" in the same price range.

[sevenplusone]

you know Bersa makes a single stack "Compact Thunder .45" and the Glock 36 is one also. I have a Springfield 1911a1,Bersa .45 and a Glock 36 .. the 1911 is ok to carry on the hip,so you need a cover vest or coat. The Bersa .45 is both single and dubble action. I carry it in a shoulder holster. The Glock is new and I have not fired it enough to carry it yet. It does stand night shift guard duty beside the bed.
Have a nice day

A G36 ISa single stack.

Edited for Foolish Poster who doesn't know which Glock he is talking about.

[Zatch]

another +1 on the 1911. I have shot a buddy of mine's 1911 Kimber .45 (not sure of exact model). Its amazing! Incredibly smooth and shoots like a dream!

[Wyoming]

Another vote for the Sig 220 Carry. I carry mine in a CrossBreed SuperTuck. It's one of my favorite carry guns.

[Knightrider03m]

Another vote for the 1911

[DetroitBiker]

A G36 is not a single stack.
The Glock36 is a single stack 6rd mag ,thats why is the slimest glock at 1.13 inches in width.http://www.glock.com/english/glock36.htm You might be thinking of the glock30 thats a double stack .45

[Pnab]

Can't wrong with a Sig or 1911 both are excellent weapons, personally I would lean toward the 1911. Even though it is not a single stack, I would really suggest you try out the HK45, it will cost a little more than the sig but it is worth shooting before you make a decision.

[XDM 40 cal]

+1 on the 1911...Nothing wrong with the Sig220...

But There something about a 1911 that feels so right in MY HAND...

I agree with all that rent a few if possible and pick the one is best ...

Good hunting..

[mrbuckshot]

A G36 is not a single stack.
Well some one don't know there Glocks, MY 36 is a Single Stack, and It fits my small hand just like the 1911A1, but the 30 is a twin stack and it holds more,but is wider. Hay Sevenplusone, If you are ever in Sparta, I'll let you shoot it.
have a nice day.

[MikePGS]

Just another name to toss in the ring is the Kahr. The CW45 in particular is (relatively) inexpensive.

[Mike Burrows]

you know Bersa makes a single stack "Compact Thunder .45" and the Glock 36 is one also. I have a Springfield 1911a1,Bersa .45 and a Glock 36 .. the 1911 is ok to carry on the hip,so you need a cover vest or coat. The Bersa .45 is both single and dubble action. I carry it in a shoulder holster. The Glock is new and I have not fired it enough to carry it yet. It does stand night shift guard duty beside the bed.
Have a nice day
Do you know of any place that has the Bersa in stock? I've been wanting to check one but can't find any.
Thanks

[joepistol]

I agree it would be best to try as many 45's as possible (rent @ range,shoot friend's guns,etc) to see what suites you best, before deciding to purchase.

That being said, I've owned a Series 80 Colt Goldcup, a Terry Tussey
modded Springfield Armory 45, a Glock 21, and a Colt Govt.model SS 45.
I've shot others,inc. HK USP, AMT, Thompson, Star,and many others.

My last purchase was a Sig 220 ,lightly used,from a MGO lister.

The Sig is the most accurate .45 I've ever shot. I let another MGO lister shoot it last night (he has a nice looking ss Kimber) said he'd never shot a
Sig..he put the first shot dead center bullseye & then grouped the next 4 shots touching in a group, inside a 2" box. He was quite suprised.

In the short time I've owned my 220. it's become my favorite..


Good luck & have fun finding yours...Joepistol..:pistols:

[yogiboobooranger]

My vote would be for the SIG although a 1911 is also a great choice too..depends on how the guns fit your hands. Try both, and shoot both if you can then make your decision. Good Luck!!

[geparker51]

Have you considered a double-stack? One of JimSig's suggestions was the FNP-45. I have one, and love it. It's a bit bigger than the 1911 A-1's I carried once upon a time (and a heck of a lot easier to carry than the AMT Hardballer Longslide I had), but I do like how it feels, it shoots great, and it has 14-round mags.

Just my opinion.

Gene
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"Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves." Abraham Lincoln

[detacbob]

1911

I'm a Les Baer man myself.

[The Immortal]

Are most 1911's typically single stack?

[SeeTee]

Yes

[XDM 40 cal]

Yes
Are most 1911's typically single stack?

+1 :welcome:

[Dabears!]

Are most 1911's typically single stack?
some oddball ones are double stack but it is against everything 1911 haha

[esq_stu]

Sig 220 was my first pistol, about 30 years ago (when the mag release was at the heel and not behind the trigger). It was totally reliable. Sorry I sold it. Back then, there were no available accessories for the Sig and so I traded it for a Colt Gov't (Series '70). I had a lot of fun with the Colt. And I spent a fortune on accessories and on making it function reliably.

That said, I'm considering a Springfield 1911-A1 Milspec (the parkerized non-GI model). I've heard great things about it. And I've got a big box of 1911 parts and accessories and only one 1911 to put them on.

But I'd consider a Sig, too.

[mechredd]

The various Kahr .45's are slim and don't have any extra controls, so usage under stress can go a bit more smoothly, if you plan on using it as a carry gun.
There's nothing wrong with a good 1911. The Sig 220 and Ruger P90 are both fine guns.

I was interested in the Glock 36 at one point, but I have been told my a few people that the G36 is the only Glock that regularly does not work. I don't know if that's true though.

[XDM 40 cal]

Sig 220 was my first pistol, about 30 years ago (when the mag release was at the heel and not behind the trigger). It was totally reliable. Sorry I sold it. Back then, there were no available accessories for the Sig and so I traded it for a Colt Gov't (Series '70). I had a lot of fun with the Colt. And I spent a fortune on accessories and on making it function reliably.

That said, I'm considering a Springfield 1911-A1 Milspec (the parkerized non-GI model). I've heard great things about it. And I've got a big box of 1911 parts and accessories and only one 1911 to put them on.

But I'd consider a Sig, too.

With that you should check out TG they have that one and few others..

[Michigander]

The main practical differences between the 1911 and Sig are that the Sig comes with no manual safeties, and a heavy DA trigger which awkwardly transitions to single action, a difficult but very feasible thing to master well.

Alternatively, the 1911 has a smooth and crisp trigger pull, with a thumb safety that you want to be very confident you can always remember to deactivate if you're going to carry one.

They're both very good platforms which can have their grips and triggers changed out to fit nearly anyone's hand, but it's an individual choice, not something to decide on with a vote.

This of course doesn't factor in cost differences, or the high possibility of needing a 1911 tweaked at even more cost.

[The Immortal]

I want to thank everyone that contributed to this thread. I don't post that much but find considerable wisdom from reading the variety of posts.

[Dansjeep2000]

I would like to add one more +1 for the 1911. I have a Para and love it. You could always get a Sig 1911 :smile:

[Dansjeep2000]

Here is a random one off gunbroker...they aren't cheap

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=181576162

[Romeoburbs]

The 1911 has been a favorite for 99 years. The design is just as good now as in 1911. If I had to own just one gun the John Moses Browning 1911 would be it. Oh, and just for the record it still holds the speed shooting record. I own most brands and types of pistols and I still love the 1911.

[aaron]

I have 2 Springfields, a Champion and a Micro Compact. Great trigger on both. I've put about 500 through the Champion and no FTF/FTE problems at all. The Micro I've only put 100 through, but no issues.

[bpatts]

Here is a random one off gunbroker...they aren't cheap

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=181576162

The Sig GSR is a solid 1911. The full size would be tough to carry, but they do have a Officers frame GSR and a compact (C3 GSR) that would be easier to conceal.

Be ready to pay a hefty price for one though.

[JDG]

I'm gonna get pooped on for this, but My old Ruger P345 was the most accurate 45 I've ever shot! Fits very small hands very well, my 8yr old loved it at the time.

[JohnnieBravo]

I have a Colt GC and I absolutely love that gun. 1911 is the way to go IMO

[dw1911]

I am curious as the why you want to carry a fullsize 1911 when there are much better guns that are smaller and offer more firepower? The 1911 is a classic firearm, with that being said there are much better guns available. If you are looking for a Sig 220 or Sig 1911 call:
Yatin Patel
Phone: 313-492-0724
Fax: 313-928-1099
e-mail: patel@patelsrepair.com

He is a Sig dealer and offers outstanding pricing along with unbeatable service. I have contacted other dealers on this sight and either never head back from them or after repeated PM's and phone calls get informed that are waiting for pricing from their distributor. You will not get that BS from Yatin....he is a straight forward, hard working, dependable and honest businessman.

[Porter]

I am curious as the why you want to carry a fullsize 1911 when there are much better guns that are smaller and offer more firepower? The 1911 is a classic firearm, with that being said there are much better guns available.


It's what makes each of us "us"

:banana:


I carry full size whenever I can, it's just me.

8-12 rds or 15-19, whatever makes you, "you"

:pistols:

[cmike]

Sig

[yakobvee]

i have a ruger p345. it works well for me.

[Doat]

I'm gonna get pooped on for this, but My old Ruger P345 was the most accurate 45 I've ever shot! Fits very small hands very well, my 8yr old loved it at the time.


No poop from me....its a good one!

[ro2]

1911 only in 45:biggrin: springer or colt for me

[Shyster]

A G36 ISa single stack.

Edited for Foolish Poster who doesn't know which Glock he is talking about.
Yes, but who cares about a crappy Glock? :coocoo:

[dUbble aCtion]

Yes, but who cares about a crappy Glock? :coocoo:

...in a SERPA holster...:hide:

[wwjmaj]

My general advice would be this ... first, decide how much you want to spend ... you can get a single stack .45 pistol from anywhere in the $300s to well over $2000.

Then ... once you've established a budget (say $600-800) go to a range that rents a wide variety of pistols and try to shoot as many of the "candidates" as possible. But the one that "fits best" (i.e. fits well in your hand, has a trigger you like, has the kind of sight picture you want etc.)


Better yet post what you want to try and ask current owners to join you at an MGO fun shoot or the Memorial Shoot (if you can wait that long) and try them out. One of the most overlooked and underutilized advantages of attending MGO shooting events.

P.S.
You or anyone else can always post up a time and date and usually several other MGO members will show to shoot with you.

[Tom Fineis]

Appalling.

46 posts in this thread and NOBODY has asked the guy what the intended purpose of the gun is. This thread is full of blind recommendations based on whatever flavor of 45 the replying poster likes best, regardless of how useful it may (or may not) be to the original poster.

OP- What is this gun for? Range use? Competition use (if so, what type of competition?), every day carry? Wintertime carry? Nightstand gun?

Mission drives the gear.

[XDM 40 cal]

Appalling.

46 posts in this thread and NOBODY has asked the guy what the intended purpose of the gun is. This thread is full of blind recommendations based on whatever flavor of 45 the replying poster likes best, regardless of how useful it may (or may not) be to the original poster.

OP- What is this gun for? Range use? Competition use (if so, what type of competition?), every day carry? Wintertime carry? Nightstand gun?

Mission drives the gear.

+1 POU...

[Freelancer]

I have the Kimber Ultra CDP II and love it!

[Dabears!]

Appalling.

46 posts in this thread and NOBODY has asked the guy what the intended purpose of the gun is. This thread is full of blind recommendations based on whatever flavor of 45 the replying poster likes best, regardless of how useful it may (or may not) be to the original poster.

OP- What is this gun for? Range use? Competition use (if so, what type of competition?), every day carry? Wintertime carry? Nightstand gun?

Mission drives the gear.

he said he was considering a p220 carry so i think its safe to assume he wants a carry gun.

[The Immortal]

he said he was considering a p220 carry so i think its safe to assume he wants a carry gun.

CARRY

[Tungsram]

Having owned a P220, and tossed somewhere close to 2000 rds through it, I can't speak highly enough of it. It's a bit heavy IMHO as a concealed carry piece, but as far as the performance, reliability, shootability, comfort, ergonomics, etc etc- I can't praise it enough. I have nothing against 1911's, but the Sig was a Cadillac right out of the box IMHO.

[Porter]

Having owned a P220, and tossed somewhere close to 2000 rds through it, I can't speak highly enough of it. It's a bit heavy IMHO as a concealed carry piece, but as far as the performance, reliability, shootability, comfort, ergonomics, etc etc- I can't praise it enough. I have nothing against 1911's, but the Sig was a Cadillac right out of the box IMHO.


x2

[cmike]

I think the P220 is a bit heavy to carry.

[DetroitStyle]

My Sig P220ST is my favorite gun by far. It shoots like a dream. There is somebody on here selling one. They are pretty rare. Sig only made them for a year or two. If I had the scratch, I'd be snapping it up just because I love them that much.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Gixerman1000/Handguns/SigP220ST.jpg

[XDM 40 cal]

My Sig P220ST is my favorite gun by far. It shoots like a dream. There is somebody on here selling one. They are pretty rare. Sig only made them for a year or two. If I had the scratch, I'd be snapping it up just because I love them that much.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Gixerman1000/Handguns/SigP220ST.jpg

Now that is a sweet Sig!...

[Porter]

My Sig P220ST is my favorite gun by far. It shoots like a dream.

x2


I just picked one up a few weeks back, and I love it. I got the wrap around grips with it, as well as the ones pictured.

The extra weight from the stainless frame adds to it's super smooth shooting.

:heart:


I like Sigs...but I still think I like the USP fullsize .45 the best.

The USP looks purty in the two tone, but yes....the Sig is one sexy Mo fo as well..

:bowdown:

[AMSProcessing]

Appalling.

46 posts in this thread and NOBODY has asked the guy what the intended purpose of the gun is. This thread is full of blind recommendations based on whatever flavor of 45 the replying poster likes best, regardless of how useful it may (or may not) be to the original poster.

OP- What is this gun for? Range use? Competition use (if so, what type of competition?), every day carry? Wintertime carry? Nightstand gun?

Mission drives the gear.

I can't think of any of those listed mission-types that a 1911 wouldn't fill? I'd have to vote 1911 for a single-stack .45. They don't get any slimmer, and the extra controls become automatic with trigger time. If you can learn to drive a car without thinking about the mechanics of actually driving said car, then you can learn to use a 1911.

Steeper learning curve? Maybe. Classic gun? Always. And a crisp single-action trigger with no creep automatically helps eliminate a potential problem area, when compared to the Sig (heavy DA pull for the first pull, then light/crisp SA after that). I've too often seen that first round be a flyer simply because of the trigger pull change up...

[Imshootin]

Appalling.

46 posts in this thread and NOBODY has asked the guy what the intended purpose of the gun is. This thread is full of blind recommendations based on whatever flavor of 45 the replying poster likes best, regardless of how useful it may (or may not) be to the original poster.

OP- What is this gun for? Range use? Competition use (if so, what type of competition?), every day carry? Wintertime carry? Nightstand gun?

Mission drives the gear.

Original Post : .45 CALIBER ADVICE

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LOOKING TO EXPAND INVENTORY OF CALIBERS AND WANT TO ACQUIRE A .45 CALIBER SINGLE STACK.
ANY ADVICE WOULD BE WELCOME. CONSIDERING SIG 220 CARRY.
THANKS

Let's see, he wants a single stack .45 (indicates he wants a slim .45) and he's considering a Sig Carry model.
While I didn't participate in any firearm recommedation in this thread, had I, I would have stuck my neck out and taken a wild guess that he wanted a carry gun.
Appalling? I don't think so.

[Tom Fineis]

I've spent a lot of time selling guns and teaching people to shoot guns. Just because someone is looking at a gun marketed as 'carry' doesn't mean he is specifically searching for a carry gun.

Rather than assume what he meant, I think it's prudent to verify what needs he has for said gun, and be in a position to make a better recommendation from there.

Getting gun advice online is like getting vehicle advice online. Everyone has a favorite and very few people actually dissect the needs for said firearm or vehicle before throwing their two cents in.

[Imshootin]

Looks like the writing on the wall was pretty easy to read.
http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showpost.php?p=984800&postcount=51

[jimmi308]

Getting gun advice online is like getting vehicle advice online. Everyone has a favorite and very few people actually dissect the needs for said firearm or vehicle before throwing their two cents in.

and on top of that there are a good percentage that shouldnt be giving any advice....For every one poster thats has any knowledge at all , there are 4 that are so full of :bs: my .02

that being said I have a sw990L (45acp) that is more accurate than guns costing 2 and 3 times as much, this thing just plain shoots

[The Immortal]

Actually, I appreciate all the advice. Even the posts that were speculative, I still take counsel of their advice.

Group Hug?

[joelansing]

Nobody mentioned one of the most popular .45 single stacks. It has one of the best factory warrantys. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/advanced_cat_search.php?cated=26&manufacturers_id=227&ITATR_list[3]=343&ITATR_list[4]=&ITATR_list[5]=&ITATR_list[6]=&ITATR_list[8]=&ITATR_list[9]=&ITATR_list[0]= 88% 5 star reviews there on Bud's for the cheapest model. It's a very popular multipurpose weapon that works well as a firearm, hammer, and throwing weapon....:) Search YouTube for videos of it.

- Joe

[whitehawk]

LOOKING TO EXPAND INVENTORY OF CALIBERS AND WANT TO ACQUIRE A .45 CALIBER SINGLE STACK.
ANY ADVICE WOULD BE WELCOME. CONSIDERING SIG 220 CARRY.
THANKS

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