black powder rifle and pistol

[idpashooter]

i have a black powder rifle in decent condition it says its a .50 cal and made in italy and has a bunch of symbols on the barrel

also have a black powder pistol and all it say is 45 cal hi power

i dont know anything about black powder guns so whatever u need to help u identify it please let me know id like to know if they are worth anything or just paper weights thx.

[Roundballer]

First, pics would help. Short of that, descriptions of lock, stock and barrel. Is it a capper, flinter, or inline? What are the symbols on the barrel?

[idpashooter]

the pistol says cal 44 ultra hi and has a symbol that looks like a P over a B in an oval and then theres a star and then it says 4989 and the other side say BLACK POWDER ONLY ITALY

the rifle has AC inside of a circle and says 35351 and says cal 50 and made in italy

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/crankyman2/DSCN0511.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/crankyman2/DSCN0510.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/crankyman2/DSCN0509.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g115/crankyman2/DSCN0508.jpg

[pgaplayerless]

they both look like kit guns. Not worth much at all. $20-$60?

[idpashooter]

thats it??? when did they sell them in kits all i ever see is the newer all black composite ones

[pgaplayerless]

thats it??? when did they sell them in kits all i ever see is the newer all black composite ones


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