how do i register my ar15 lower as a pistol?

[SteveS]

So when buying a lower from a FFL and requesting it to be bought as a pistol. the FFL is knowingly breaking the law?

What law would he be breaking?

Regardless, an FFL that is selling or transferring a receiver should be doing so as "other", not a pistol or rifle. What the buyer does with it is up to them.

[backhandman]

idk. You just said he would not be following the law. Just asking.

[Patrick]

So when buying a lower from a FFL and requesting it to be bought as a pistol. the FFL is knowingly breaking the law?

What law would he be breaking?

Regardless, an FFL that is selling or transferring a receiver should be doing so as "other", not a pistol or rifle. What the buyer does with it is up to them.

idk. You just said he would not be following the law. Just asking.

Are you asking the ffl to fill out an RI-60 or just transfer it as a pistol? He should do neither because it's not a pistol. If you build it as a pistol, you submit the RI-60.

[scottzcamaro]

Can anyone cite the law for you being the buyer and seller on an ri60 if you build a AR15 pistol from a lower.

[oldmann1967]

Well you have to build a pistol first. You can't just register the lower as a pistol by itself.

Wrong. You would be in possession of an unregistered pistol or an SBR



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[SteveS]

Wrong. You would be in possession of an unregistered pistol or an SBR



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How so?

This is inconsistent with United States v. Thompson/Center Arms Company, 504 U.S. 505 (1992) and BATFE ruling 2011-4. Michigan does not make you register a lower, so what is the point in registering a lower?

[nrich1979]

Wrong. You would be in possession of an unregistered pistol or an SBR



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Seems like you'd have 10 days to turn in paperwork

[Patrick]

Can anyone cite the law for you being the buyer and seller on an ri60 if you build a AR15 pistol from a lower.

There's more discussion on this here:
http://www.migunowners.org/forum/sho...ller-quot-Help!

I'm just posting this here in case anyone has the same issue and wants to see that thread.

[wizzi01]

Wrong. You would be in possession of an unregistered pistol or an SBR



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Umm how would it be an sbr if you do not put a stock on it? Also, i guess you are in possession of an unregistered pistol as soon as you purchase one...No wait you have 10 days to register a "pistol" after building or purchasing one. If you purchase a stripped lower from an ffl they should be marking the 4473 as other, because that is what it is until you decide if you want to make it a pistol or a rifle.

[oldmann1967]

Good point in reguards to the sbr. It gets pretty grey with pistol uppers and pistol lowers. Not much case law. Just send the paperwork before ordering the upper IMO. Just to be safe.

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