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    Quote Originally Posted by luckless View Post
    Can you possess a handgun? If so, and this passes, you will be able to possess it in a concealed manner. CPLs will still be available and you will still be disqualified for one until 2019.

    Lmao, might as well repeal all requirements for CPL.... What's the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remo View Post
    Lmao, might as well repeal all requirements for CPL.... What's the point.

    The point is to have constitutional carry, but have the option to have a CPL for reciprocity (and NICS Exemption) purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zigziggityzoo View Post
    The point is to have constitutional carry, but have the option to have a CPL for reciprocity (and NICS Exemption) purposes.
    No I mean what's the point of having restrictions on a CPL if we go with anyone can carry that's allowed to possess.

    This seems to be half hearted proposal. Baby steps I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remo View Post
    No I mean what's the point of having restrictions on a CPL if we go with anyone can carry that's allowed to possess.

    This seems to be half hearted proposal. Baby steps I guess.
    This package of laws literally only removes the MCL 750.227 felony. All other aspects of the law are untouched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zigziggityzoo View Post
    This package of laws literally only removes the MCL 750.227 felony. All other aspects of the law are untouched.
    Well, at least it's a start I suppose.

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    I support it... I guess I was just hoping for something "Complete." Not, IMO, half-hearted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revdrshad View Post
    I appreciate the effort, but it seems like a half hearted attempt... Possibly to prevent a real Constitutional bill from being introduced?

    As mentioned, without the needed changes, this could just get people in trouble.

    At the least, disclosure needs to be removed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Revdrshad View Post
    That's the problem... No repeal of disclosure anywhere. No discussion anywhere that I saw. So, to me, it seems like it is maybe setting a non-CPL holder who chooses to conceal, up for failure. And holding a CPL recipient to a higher standard of "Disclosure" (to an LEO), than a non-permit holder.
    See how it all seems contradictory. As mentioned, poorly thought out.

    I could be reading it wrong. Thoughts?
    Quote Originally Posted by Revdrshad View Post
    I support it... I guess I was just hoping for something "Complete." Not, IMO, half-hearted.
    Sounds like a reversal in what, five days?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roundballer View Post
    Sounds like a reversal in what, five days?
    Eh, Not a reversal per se. I'm just disappointed our Reps can't seem to do better. I have no choice but to support it. I will never have a "But" after any kind of "I support guns," statement.

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    Whom are the authors of this and any gun legislation that is introduced in Lansing getting their direction from? I ask because I tend to agree with Revdrshad's statement "I'm just disappointed our Reps can't seem to do better."

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    But remember, pro gun laws are all part of the fun lobby and paid for by the nra.
    Considering the patchwork and fishnet nature of these laws... I want my member dues back!
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