Welcome to MGO's Internet Discussion Forums…Please Consider Becoming a Dues-Paying Member of the ORG…Click >>>>>HERE<<<<< for more info…………****DONATIONS**** can also be made toward MGO's Legal Defense Fund and/or MGO's Forums >>>>>HERE<<<<<

KROGER

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 29
  1. #1
    MGO Board of Directors

    President PhotoTom's Avatar


    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Wayne Co. MI
    Posts
    33,707

    HB 5220 of 2017 Allow purchase and possession of certain self-defense spray concentration under certain circumstances

    HB 5220 of 2017
    Weapons; other; purchase and possession of certain self-defense spray concentration; allow under certain circumstances. Amends sec. 224d of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224d).
    Last Action: 11/7/2017 bill electronically reproduced 11/02/2017
    Don't let yesterday use up too much of today - Will Rogers
    DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed in my posts are my own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions, views, or official policies of Michigan Gun Owners.

  2. #2
    MGO Board of Directors

    President PhotoTom's Avatar


    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Wayne Co. MI
    Posts
    33,707
    Looks like it is essentially just proposing taking the legal limit of oleoresin capsicum from 10% to 18%.
    Don't let yesterday use up too much of today - Will Rogers
    DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed in my posts are my own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions, views, or official policies of Michigan Gun Owners.

  3. #3
    MGO Board of Directors

    President PhotoTom's Avatar


    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Wayne Co. MI
    Posts
    33,707
    HB 5220 of 2017
    Weapons; other; purchase and possession of certain self-defense spray concentration; allow under certain circumstances. Amends sec. 224d of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224d).
    Last Action: 12/4/2017 Analysis File Added

    http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docume...0-76FFFACF.pdf
    Don't let yesterday use up too much of today - Will Rogers
    DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed in my posts are my own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions, views, or official policies of Michigan Gun Owners.

  4. #4
    MGO Board of Directors

    President PhotoTom's Avatar


    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Wayne Co. MI
    Posts
    33,707
    HB 5220 of 2017
    Weapons; other; purchase and possession of certain self-defense spray concentration; allow under certain circumstances. Amends sec. 224d of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224d).
    Last Action: 2/7/2018 referred to second reading
    Don't let yesterday use up too much of today - Will Rogers
    DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed in my posts are my own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions, views, or official policies of Michigan Gun Owners.

  5. #5
    MGO Member luckless's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Sault Ste. Marie
    Posts
    5,102
    It will be interesting to see who will oppose this.

  6. #6
    MGO Member Roundballer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    I/C "Gateway to the Thumb" Lapeer County
    Posts
    22,562
    Quote Originally Posted by luckless View Post
    It will be interesting to see who will oppose this.
    I also would like to see who actually does oppose, but most of that will not be done in the open where we can see it.

    I expect opposition from anyone that is exempt from that law: MCL 750-231


    Life Member, NRA, Lapeer County Sportsmen's Club Disclaimer: I Am Not A Lawyer. Opinions expressed are not representative of any organization to which I may belong, and are solely mine. Any natural person or legal entity reading this post accepts all responsibility for any actions undertaken by that person or entity, based upon what they perceived was contained in this post, and shall hold harmless this poster, his antecedents, and descendants, in perpetuity.

  7. #7
    MGO Board of Directors

    President PhotoTom's Avatar


    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Wayne Co. MI
    Posts
    33,707
    HB 5220 of 2017
    Weapons; other; purchase and possession of certain self-defense spray concentration; allow under certain circumstances. Amends sec. 224d of 1931 PA 328 (MCL 750.224d).
    Last Action: 2/13/2018 Analysis File Added

    http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docume...0-4FBAAC7D.pdf
    Don't let yesterday use up too much of today - Will Rogers
    DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed in my posts are my own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions, views, or official policies of Michigan Gun Owners.

  8. #8
    MGO Member Roundballer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    I/C "Gateway to the Thumb" Lapeer County
    Posts
    22,562
    We missed a little movement on this one:

    2/7/2018 HJ 13 Pg. 204 reported with recommendation without amendment
    2/7/2018 HJ 13 Pg. 204 referred to second reading

    It is out of committee and back to the house for voting.


    This part is also interesting:

    POSITIONS:

    A representative from Damsels in Defense testified in support of the bill. (12-5-17)

    A representative from the Michigan State Police indicated a neutral position regarding the bill. (12-5-17)
    That part also kind of angers me. The MSP should not have any voice in law making. It is one thing to have an individual (who happens to be a cop) testifying, but having an MSP "representative" (a part of the Executive branch) regularly weighting in as "pro, neutral or con" is wrong.


    Analysis as Reported From Committee (2/13/2018) is a pretty good read.


    Life Member, NRA, Lapeer County Sportsmen's Club Disclaimer: I Am Not A Lawyer. Opinions expressed are not representative of any organization to which I may belong, and are solely mine. Any natural person or legal entity reading this post accepts all responsibility for any actions undertaken by that person or entity, based upon what they perceived was contained in this post, and shall hold harmless this poster, his antecedents, and descendants, in perpetuity.

  9. #9
    I am a Forum User
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    sw michigan
    Posts
    5,095
    Having MSP input angers me too. They are not a lobbying group, their salaries come from tax payer money. Having to get the the opinions from the MSP looks to much like a "police State."

  10. #10
    MGO Member luckless's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Sault Ste. Marie
    Posts
    5,102
    It is one way the governor exerts his influence. The MSP does what the governor tells them. He is their boss and they are his personal lobbying arm.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
only search Michigan Gun Owners Forums
MGO's Facebook MGO's Twitter